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  1. Jax Teller

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    If the Dolphins pull this off I'll be so torn. On one hand good for the titans, on the other don't trust Tua's future to this guy.
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  2. Cornelius Suttree

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    You're either a Titans fan or you aren't

     
  3. Jax Teller

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    Just cause I'm a Titans fan doesn't mean I want to see one my favorite players at Bama ever get hurt. And yes, who knows maybe Wilson could turn it around down there. Although if he couldn't stop partying here...
     
  4. JohnLocke

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    It's pretty wild to hear that we haven't spoken to Isaiah Wilson in a while. Something must be wrong with the guy mentally right now if there is no sense of urgency from him to even reach out to anyone in the front office or staff. I hope the guy gets the help he needs
     
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    Looking at the 2020 draft there aren't too many players after the Wilson pick that look like terrible misses. SInce we signed picked Darryngton Evans in the 3rd round maybe picking up Edwards-Ellaire would have been nice. Him and King Henry would be the perfect compliment. A run of 3 good safeties that I think will have liong careers as well right after the Wilson pick. Xavier Mckinney, Antoine Winfield Jr, Grant Delpit. Would have been nice to have one of those 3.

    Cornelius Suttree Jax Teller and everybody else what position you want us to swing for in the first round...edge rusher? defensive back?

    I think Jaelan Phillips, Joseph Ossai, Kwity Paye, and Azeez Ojulari are the obvious picks. I don't think Rousseauwill make it to us. Not too many CBs in this draft but I've seen some recent mocks that have Pat Surtain slipping close to the 20 range. I would take him immediately if one of him or Caleb Farley fell to us. Two stud corners with fantastic size and length. I'm not sold on Jaycee Horn and would rather take one of the edge guys instead. Really all depends on free agency. We need pass rushers and I think that is priority 1 but if we could one of those corners and take an edge in the 2nd and maybe scoop up 1 or 2 in free agency I would be very happy
     
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    As many of the best defensive players available as we can get lol. After that I guess oline depth?
     
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    can we start leaking negative stories about Surtain? That'd be a pipe dream pick. I wouldn't mind trading up to try and land a premium talent like him if possible? CB or edge rusher are the obvious positions of need. We desperately need to upgrade there I don't know who we should go after. Would also like to see us take a stab at a random WR, interior DL and OL

    draft picks under J Robinson below just for reference

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  10. JohnLocke

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    Traded Isaiah Wilson and a 7th for a 7th to Miami. What a complete fuck-up by Robinson
     
  11. JohnLocke

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    As far as the draft is concerned I think I've settled on Azeez Ojulari as the number 1 guy on our board from a realistic standpoint. He seems like the perfect fit for us. The sky is the limit for him as a pass rusher and he's only 20. He's my number 1 no doubt
     
  12. Jax Teller

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    Pass rusher, best defensive player available then oline depth please.
     
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    Really like the size/speed combination of Oweh from PSU but I know that’s a pipe dream. Azeez would work too. Has to be an impact pass rusher IMO. You can get away with the corners we have much easier if you can just get some consistent pressure on the QB.
     
  14. Cornelius Suttree

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    Byard is gonna bounce back big time IMO we just need to get a couple guys with a pulse on the pass rush

    Reminds me of the difference between Chris Hope and Michael Griffin with Haynesworth in 2007 and 2008 and then without him starting in 2009. Woof
     
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    What makes you say that on Oweh? Most mocks I see have him going later than our pick
     
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    I've heard they are likely to cut Vaccaro and roll with Hooker in his place though. Not sure how that might impact Byard but something has to give, he fell off a cliff last year.
     
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    He's an athletic specimen that will test well measurables-wise and will likely rise as a result. I believe he is like 6'5" or 6'6", 260lbs and has the potential to run under 4.4 in the 40. Someone always (Oakland typically) reaches for that 'workout warrior.'
     
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    That's a good point. Just learned he had zero sacks this past season. Pretty wild if he goes in the top 20 with that stat although I think he is very very good. What do you think about Ojulari?
     
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    Reminds me of a hybrid between Leonard Floyd from Georgia a few years back and Dante Fowler from UF, just a little more compact, body wise.

    He's young and will likely need some time to develop. It feels like we have taken developmental players in the first round the last 2 drafts, one of those seems to have went really well....
     
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  21. Cornelius Suttree

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    This injury sucked so much for our D

     
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  24. Capstone 88

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    Gonna have a whole new team next year
     
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  26. Cornelius Suttree

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    pretty sure Kuharsky and his chud co-hosts now work for a white supremacist, can see why the Titans would cut ties with Hutton
     
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    Titans vs Rams super bowl
     
  32. Capstone 88

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    Signed the wrong Browns OT
     
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  33. Cornelius Suttree

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    Autry seems like an underrated move. And if Dupree comes back healthy, that should be a really nice addition. I know he played around great talent and the Steelers can basically get production from someone off the street in their system. But he is a huge upgrade from what we've had

    so, pleasantly surprised with those two moves
     
  34. Capstone 88

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    Not terribly upset with Davis walking
     
  35. Walt Disney

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    Does that mean WR is our 1st round pick

    Bateman? Marshall Jr?

    Idk who the best wr is not Waddle/Smith/Chase
     
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    I think Tannehill's presence, especially his ability to thread tight windows, gives us the flexibility to focus on D early and try to hit on a mid-round receiver. But we are pretty bare there without Davis and losing Smith maybe makes another big play WR more important
     
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    Trade up for Devonta. We air raid now
     
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    Loved Dupree in Pittsburgh. Good pass rusher but great against the run. Has a really high floor even if he doesn’t live up to his contract (I think he’ll live up to it though). I just love that he got paid as he seems like a genuinely good guy and Pittsburgh never realistically had a chance to resign him. And his rehab is supposedly going really well to boot.
     
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  41. JohnLocke

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    Scoop up Elijah Moore in the 2nd or 3rd. Think he'll be a perfect slot for the NFL
     
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    ESPN+ had a ranking of underrated and overrated FA deals. Dupree was the first overrated deal listed

    The deal: Five years, $82.5 million ($35 million guaranteed)

    Dupree is one of the riskiest bets in the 2021 free-agent class. Before he went down with a torn ACL last December, Dupree was notching sacks left and right. It's an attractive stat that teams will pay up for, as was evident this past week, but not every sack is the same. Dupree saw more than 60% of his pressures in 2020 come courtesy of cleanup or unblocked situations -- by far the highest rate at the position -- and generated a lowly 61.2 pass-rush grade which ranked 71st among 105 qualifiers.

    That's been the story of his career. All but one of Dupree's six NFL seasons ended with him earning a sub-62.0 pass rush grade. He might boast a high motor, but he doesn't consistently win true one-on-one situations. His departure from Pittsburgh's scheme likely will reveal that.

    and then in a list of which players got the best deals, Dupree was listed:

    The most stunning deal in the pass-rusher market was the five-year, $82.5 million battleship the Titans gave former Steeler Bud Dupree. Prior to the opening of free agency, more than one team talking to Dupree thought he would have to take a one-year prove-it deal at around $13 million or $14 million because he's recovering from a torn ACL suffered late in the 2020 season and probably won't be ready at the start of the 2021 season.

    But Dupree's agent, France, who as you'll see had a big week, was able to secure $33.75 million in fully guaranteed money in the first two years of Dupree's deal. Tennessee feels a lot more certain about Dupree's recovery timetable than some other teams did, that's for sure.
     
  44. Cornelius Suttree

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    from The Athletic:

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    5 years, $85 million ($35 million guaranteed)

    What kind of player is he?

    Dupree’s road to a massive payday this offseason — which involved the highest average annual salary of any edge rusher in this class — has been winding. A first-round pick by the Steelers in 2016, Dupree’s production over his first four seasons was middling at best. He failed to tally more than six sacks in any of those years, and according to Pro Football Focus, never had more than 46 pressures in a given season. His impact was so muted that speculation grew about whether the Steelers would even pick up his fifth-year option. They did, and both Pittsburgh and Dupree were rewarded. He notched 11.5 sacks in 2019 and was given the franchise tag last offseason.

    In 11 games before tearing his ACL last year, Dupree was en route to another impressive season based on box score numbers. He finished with eight sacks and 15 QB hits over that stretch, a sign his production in 2019 hadn’t been a fluke. What’s notable about Dupree, though, is how he gets that production.

    If you’re looking for a pure pass rusher coming off the edge, Dupree isn’t your guy. His pass-rush plan isn’t especially refined or nuanced (unlike some of this year’s other free agents), and he isn’t going to consistently beat good left tackles around the edge. Dupree has some bend, but his greatest strength is the way he uses his elite physical gifts to create chaos.

    Last week, a play caller who faced Dupree last season told me that though he isn’t the most skilled pass rusher, he’s a player whom offenses have to account for at all times. Dupree’s sack numbers can be misleading in that many of them have come when he’s unblocked. But it’s telling that Dupree is the sort of player who will make you pay any time you don’t have a plan for him. Play designs that might work with less-explosive pass rushers fall to pieces when a guy with Dupree’s explosiveness is flying off the edge.

    Take this play from the Steelers’ win against the Browns early last season. Based on the design, tight end Austin Hooper is supposed to come back across the formation to pick up Dupree as the offensive line slides to its right. Instead, Dupree comes flying off the edge and throws Baker Mayfield to the ground before Hooper can even get a hand on him. Dupree is one of those guys who makes plays that look great on the whiteboard look like a disaster on the field. He doesn’t always win as a rusher in traditional ways, but he’s a game-wrecking play waiting to happen.

    How does he fit the plan?

    In a way, Dupree is the player whom a lot of Titans fans thought they were getting last season with Jadeveon Clowney. Dupree has the same splash-play ability that Clowney does against the run, with a bit more juice as an outside rusher. Last season, the Titans had the most expensive secondary in the entire NFL and still managed to finish 30th in defensive DVOA. Tennessee has scrapped that plan in 2021, electing to release guys like Malcolm Butler and Adoree’ Jackson and pump those resources into their defensive front. The Titans are hoping that Dupree, recently signed Denico Autry and ascending defensive tackle Jeffrey Simmons can revive a pass rush that was dormant all of last season. The vision makes sense.

    What’s the value?

    Even for fans of Dupree, $16.5 million a year for a player who’s coming off an ACL tear and wasn’t an elite pass rusher to begin with is a lot of money. When Dupree notched 11.5 sacks in 2019, PFF credited him with just 51 pressures. That was good for 24th in the NFL that season (one spot behind Titans edge Harold Landry, whose lack of production has ostensibly made the Dupree signing necessary). But if you look at the number of snaps Dupree played, that number becomes even less impressive. On a per-play basis, Dupree was about as disruptive as rotational rushers like Uchenna Nwosu of the Chargers and Vince Biegel of the Dolphins — neither of whom is commanding $16.5 million a year.

    Dupree’s rise came as part of a Steelers front where he was, at best, the third most impactful player behind T.J. Watt and Cam Heyward. In Tennessee, his salary will bring expectations of a clear-cut No. 1 option who has to reach double-digit sacks and be a consistent disruptor in the passing game to justify that deal. He’s slated to make the same amount this year as Chandler Jones and Za’Darius Smith. Dupree has the physical tools to make that happen, but he hasn’t yet played to that level.
     
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    Ummmm Jim Schwartz maybe helping out?? Yes please

     
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