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  1. Russellin4885

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    Yea, forgot about battery. Had a problem where my battery was dying consistently. Had to take it to the dealer because you need special tools they only have to change it out. Between that and testing to try and figure out why it kept dying it was like $600 to change the damn battery.
     
  2. The Banks

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    I am trying to gain some empathy. I get an oil change every 3-5K miles, have never had to add oil or any other fluid to any vehicle ive owned outside of windshield washer fluid, have never had to change a belt on any vehicle ive owned (changed an idler a work truck once with 300K+ miles). Changed a battery once on my vehicle that is over 10 years old that goes through -60 winters. I am just trying to understand how it all adds up for the average person.
     
  3. afb

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    I feel like you are extremely lucky then. Or maybe I have shit luck with cars.
     
  4. HuskerInMiami

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    I think he just maintains his really well. That's something I don't do and why I lease. Going electric is the best of both worlds. I can own a car and not worry about maintenance. Brakes last a lot longer as well becaues of the regenerative breaking.
     
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  6. PAHokie

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    The headline was kind of wow, but reading the article it seems like Tesla gets dinged for not altering the driver or keeping the driver focused. Which is important today, but the actual self driving performance scoring is what I think is more important to evaluate.
     
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  7. dblplay1212

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    I was just happy to see someone else in their ballpark. Competition will make them all better.
     
  8. dblplay1212

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/11/business/honda-legend-autonomous-driving-intl-hnk/index.html

    Hong Kong/Tokyo (CNN Business)Honda (HMC) is launching a new version of its Legend sedan that will take over for drivers on busy highways after the company got approval for its level 3 self-driving system in Japan.

    The Japanese government has touted the move as a "world first," saying that it would make Honda the first carmaker to mass produce and sell the next level of self-driving vehicles. Other driver assistance systems, such as Tesla's (TSLA)Autopilot and General Motors' (GM) Supercruise, are level 2 systems, meaning that they can control vehicle speed and steering, but still require the driver to pay attention at all times and be ready to intervene. Level 3 systems may only require driver attention in specific situations.

    Honda said in a statement on Wednesday that it received approval from Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism. The company plans to start selling Legends equipped with its system before the end of March 2021.

    The car industry has adopted six levels of automated driving, which dictate how much assistance a vehicle can provide. Currently, there are no mass produced cars available at level 3, though some automakers have been testing vehicles with more sophisticated level 4 technology, which entails a vehicle mostly capable of driving itself, though it may be restricted to a certain area. Level 5 automation, in which autonomous vehicle control could be guaranteed for virtually every situation and the need for a steering wheel is removed, is considered the ultimate goal for self-driving cars.

    In the United States, "there is no vehicle currently available for sale that is 'self-driving,'" according to the US Department of Transportation. "Every vehicle currently for sale in the United States requires the full attention of the driver at all times for safe operation," the agency states on its website.

    Honda's system, which is called the "Traffic Jam Pilot," would only take over driving in certain scenarios,"such as when the vehicle is in congested traffic on [expressways]," the company stressed in a statement.

    But Japan hopes this is just the beginning, particularly as the country looks for an edge in the global self-driving car race.

    "Automated driving cars are expected to play a big role in solving various social challenges that Japan faces, such as reducing traffic accidents, securing the elderly people's transportation and improvement of the productivity in transportation sector," the Japanese ministry said.

    Japan hopes to lead the world in the field of autonomous driving, and will continue to promote the use of the technology, it added.
     
  9. BrickTamland

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    I drove my buddy’s performance dual motor 3series this weekend. Holy shit that is a fast car.
     
  10. dblplay1212

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    Our configurator is launching!


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    It’s time to build an Electric Adventure Vehicle — our configurator is launching Monday, November 23. Rivian preorder holders get earlier access beginning Monday, November 16.

    In anticipation, we’re sharing more about our equipment packages, features, pricing and the Launch Edition — a special launch configuration with U.S. deliveries for the R1T starting in June 2021 and R1S in August 2021. Canadian deliveries begin in November 2021.

    Thank you for being on this journey with us. We couldn’t be more grateful to be building a community of adventurous souls committed to leaving the planet better for our kids and our kids’ kids.


    Learn More
     
  11. dblplay1212

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    Damn these look good.

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  12. dblplay1212

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    lol at the body being spotless but the tires being covered in mud
     
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  13. Nelson

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    i still think my neck is damaged from driving the same car in August
     
  14. Bankz

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    Do they sit higher off the ground vs other “suvs” on the market?
     
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  15. dblplay1212

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    Idk about clearance but they look taller. It looks like a normal SUV, not a hatchback.
     
  16. PAHokie

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    Those Rivians are so slick, I wish I could afford them.
     
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  17. dblplay1212

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  18. NineteenNine

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    :laugh: that build out has like 2 options other than paint and interior color. Streamlined.
     
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  19. dblplay1212

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    haha I laughed at that too.

    - Color of dash
    - Exterior color
    - Interior color (2 options)
    - Wheels
    - 7 or 5 seats

    I guess it's not that bad. Lack of materials and colors for interior is the most lacking part. And power/battery combos. Not bad for an initial launch, I guess.
     
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  20. NineteenNine

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    I mean, Tesla is kinda that way too. Helps streamline the production, I would assume.
     
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  21. dblplay1212

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    Yep, that's what made me re-think my initial "wtf there's no options" thought.
     
  22. Nelson

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    Skeptical of Rivian but definitely interested if they can pull that off

    would still need generic long distance charging stations to seriously take off quickly too
     
  23. dblplay1212

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    That's why its imperative that we get universal charging. It has to be a priority the government pushes, even subsidizes. If we can subsidize drug companies, we can subsidize someone to build a universal charging network with a station every 50 miles or whatever. Put them at rest areas, whatever.
     
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  24. The Banks

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    We are more into subsidizing (R) things like O&G, farming, dairy, big pharma as you said, etc. Getting renewable subsidies is a lot more difficult.
     
  25. CoastalOrange

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    Subsidizing renewable energies :swoon:
     
  26. HuskerInMiami

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  27. billdozer

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  28. Nelson

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    Not an argument against subsidies, but also realize these things will get built. The chicken or egg issue of demand for electrics is fading. When convenience store operators see what GM just announced, for example, they can see which way the wind is blowing.
     
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  29. Where Eagles Dare

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    Clean Energy is socialism
     
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  30. The Banks

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  31. dblplay1212

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    What did GM announce?
     
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  32. PAHokie

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  33. afb

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    If we wanna talk govt in here, Biden needs to restore the tax credit to purchase EVs
     
  34. PAHokie

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    which one? The $7,500 fed one is still going.
     
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  35. Nelson

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    I’m guessing he means make it permanent for every manufacturer regardless of how many historical vehicles they’ve sold
     
  36. SD_Irish

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    Yes, this. Make it happen. The manufacturers are finally moving in that direction, as are consumers. The public good would benefit immensely. Exactly the type of scenario subsidies were intended for.
     
  37. BP

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    I believe the credit is expired for Teslas tho
     
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  38. afb

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    This.

    The Tesla one is gone/reduced which is why they dropped the price of the model 3.

    Any incentive to move people to EVs is a huge positive and that was a big one for people.
     
  39. Clemson327

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    It’s gone for Tesla and GM.
     
  40. orangebl00d

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    yep. between state & fed, I received 10k in credits/rebates. that said, I'd probably have bought one anyway.
     
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  41. REGGNECK

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    I didn’t get jack ....:feelsbadman:
     
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  42. Mix

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  43. Where Eagles Dare

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    I haven't read much about this, but shit like this will be the game changer for EVs

     
  44. Where Eagles Dare

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    The Ioniq5 also looks pretty sweet.

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  45. Where Eagles Dare

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    And this is the Inoiq6? I fucking like that. Googled the Inoiq 7 and its apparently the same as the 5. Not really sure about this naming strategy HMG

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  46. HuskerInMiami

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  47. Russellin4885

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    The V3 Tesla superchargers charge up to 250KWH, which is about 1,000 miles an hour. When that is rolled out more extensively that is a massive game changer, couple that with the range increases that have happened and will continue to happen, then at some point soon you really lose all range concerns.
     
  48. HuskerInMiami

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    What kind of power infrastructure needs to be in place to support that?

    Won't we have to upgrade/replace the electrical distrubtion lines and transformers?

    I met with FPL (Florida Power & Light - Utility company in Florida) about a year ago because we were looking at the possibility of moving our busses to all electric. There's a lot more that goes into charging large batteries at 150-300kW than I imagined. That's pulling a lot of power out of the system and has the potential to cause many issues.
     
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  49. Nelson

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  50. Bankz

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    Dang... sold my 600 7 years ago this month.

    This is awfully tempting