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  1. dblplay1212

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    I'd never even thought about that honestly until this case but its something that car manufacturers should have thought about.
     
  2. The Banks

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    And they have, since it’s a thing.
     
  3. dblplay1212

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    Is it for Tesla? Lawsuit made it sound like it wasn't. And I'm not saying it's a Tesla only thing. I honestly don't know. I found the above quote saying it was for Ford but idk past that.
     
  4. The Banks

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    Yes. Car companies have thought about it. Once one car company comes up with an innovative idea, all the other ones are aware of it. Then it comes down to is it cost effective/are the regulated to follow suit/etc.
     
  5. dblplay1212

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    I guess I should have said "all care manufacturers should have implemented"
     
  6. Arliden

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    The battery fire shit is overblown by the media, any time a Tesla gets in an accident or is in a fire it’s likely that it’ll be headline news. Cars catch fire, google bmw car fires or any other manufacturer and it’ll pop up.

    Only difference is the amount of water and time needed to extinguish an EV fire.


    The door thing is stupid, other car makers have flush door handles and this would be no different with a locked door. As covered prior the cop can bust the window and pull him out, if it’s too hot to do that then the door being open won’t help.
     
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  8. Arliden

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    Truck unveiling will be Nov 21st
     
  9. Prospector

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    It's a beast: Ford reveals electric Mustang with 'stunning' acceleration
    The Mustang Lithium is powered by an 800-volt power system, more than double the power of most electric cars on the road today, according to Ford.
    Wednesday, November 6th 2019, 2:06 PM EST by CNN Newswire
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    Ford unveiled a fully electric Mustang with over 900 horsepower at a car show in Las Vegas Wednesday. It's not for sale, but the customized Mustang is intended to gauge interest in a high-performance electric car, Ford said.


    Later this month Ford will unveil a "Mustang inspired" electric SUV that customers will be able to buy. The SUV, however, will likely be far less powerful than this show car, which Ford is calling the Mustang Lithium.


    Ford didn't provide any exact performance figures for the Mustang Lithium, but described the car's acceleration as "stunning."


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    Created together with the automotive parts supplier Webasto, the Mustang Lithium has a six-speed manual transmission. That's unusual in an electric car because, unlike gasoline and diesel-powered cars, electric cars don't actually require a transmission with more than one speed. The transmission in the Mustang Lithium is a special heavy-duty transmission engineered to handle the 1,000 foot-pounds of torque, or pulling power, put out by the car's electric motor.


    John Lupu, director of marketing for Webasto Customized Solutions, said the manual transmission was included "because it puts control of the vehicle back in the driver's hands." The driver can simply leave the car in third gear all the time and drive it like any other electric car or choose to shift gears.


    The Mustang Lithium is powered by an 800-volt power system, more than double the power of most electric cars on the road today, according to Ford. The driver can select from four driving modes, including Sport, Track and Beast. The fourth is a Valet mode for when you have to hand someone else the key.


    The Mustang Lithium was also created as a way to test heat management systems in an electric car, according to Ford. Electric car batteries and motors tend to heat up under hard use, such as racing.


    The hood of the car has two small clear polycarbonate panels to allow a view of the battery pack and electric motor underneath..


    The electric Mustang was unveiled at the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show in Las Vegas, an industry trade show for companies that make add-on parts for cars and trucks. Major automakers frequently unveil customized show cars at the event. At last year's SEMA show, General Motors unveiled a 700-horsepower electric Camaro.


    Besides the upcoming SUV, Ford is also developing an all-electric version of the F-150 pickup. In order to have the greatest impact, Ford is starting its electric vehicle rollout with models tied to its most famous brands, Mustang and F-150, Ford executives have said.
     
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  10. Where Eagles Dare

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    There hasn't been a good looking mustang since the 70s
     
  11. dblplay1212

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    It's nothing something I'd drive, not sure there's a sports car out there that I'd actually drive daily, but I think these look good.

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  12. Where Eagles Dare

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    Looks pretty much like they have since the late 90s remake or maybe even re-release? Pretty much the same since the 80s small body style.

    I just hate the long front. Just not for me
     
  13. dblplay1212

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    Nose is more squared off to me. Reminds of the old 60's ones that did that. The 90's were a really rounded nose. I'd never drive any of them so it doesn't matter.
     
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    GM selling shuttered Ohio factory to electric truck maker
    General Motors is selling a massive Ohio assembly plant it closed in March to a new company that plans to begin making electric trucks in late 2020
    not Tesla, but still...
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    November 7, 2019, 3:07 PM
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    General Motors is selling a massive assembly plant it shut down earlier this year in Ohio, a closing that drew threats and scolding from President Donald Trump, to a newly formed company that said Thursday it intends to begin making electric trucks by late 2020.

    The company called Lordstown Motors Corp. plans to hire 400 production workers at the outset, but said it still needs more investors before manufacturing can begin.

    GM had employed 4,500 people at the factory near Youngstown just two years ago before it began cutting production and eventually in March ended more than 50 years of car manufacturing there, part of a major restructuring plan.

    The closing of the once-bustling factory that last made the Chevrolet Cruz came into the political spotlight last November after Trump criticized the plan and pushed GM executives to either reopen or sell the plant, at one point threatening to cut off all federal subsidies to GM.

    Trump took a particular interest in the Lordstown plant, which sits in an area of Ohio that will be important to him in the 2020 election and is where he promised supporters at a rally that manufacturing jobs are coming back to the Midwest.

    Terms of the sale and the investors who are behind the deal weren't disclosed by the privately held Lordstown Motors. CEO Steve Burns said Thursday that GM is not among the investors.

    Acquiring the plant will allow the company formed just months ago to begin seeking more money so that it can begin production of a new electric pickup truck that will be marketed to commercial customers such as utility companies and municipal governments.

    So far, the focus has been on designing the truck, building its management team and buying the plant, he said. "We've raised money to get this far, but the large fundraising starts now," Burns said.

    The company, he said, had a unique opportunity to buy an auto plant still equipped welding, stamping and painting operations needed to produce vehicles.

    "Normally when these plants shut down, by the time someone buys it, it has been gutted," he said. "To build from scratch would be in the billions."

    While production will be limited in the beginning, the plan is to create a hub for electric vehicle manufacturing. "We didn't buy this plant to not fill it up and get to full production," he said.

    Burns was a founder of Cincinnati-based Workhorse Group, a fledgling electric truck maker, that will hold a minority stake in a new venture and provide it with technology needed for the new pickup trucks.

    Speculation on the plant's future had centered on Workhorse since Trump happily tweeted last May that the company was in talks to buy the huge facility. But there also have been plenty of questions about its financial footing .

    Burns said he knows there will be skepticism until Lordstown Motors starts producing an electric pickup truck that customers love.

    The trucks, he said, will use hub motors in each wheel, eliminating the need for drive shafts and other parts.

    "We're essentially reinventing electric vehicles," Burns said. "The wheel is the motor. The only moving parts on this truck are the wheels. It's a super, simple vehicle."

    The deal comes as GM itself is trying to move toward the future with an eye on autonomous and electric vehicles, with plans announced earlier this year to build its own electric pickup truck at a Detroit plant. GM also is building an electric vehicle battery cell factory in the Lordstown area that will be run by a joint venture.

    Burns thinks his company can compete for a share of the electric vehicle market by being quicker to adjust to new technology and by targeting commercial, fleet customers who want more than what conventional trucks can supply.
     
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  16. dblplay1212

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    Not sure where else to ask this so I'll put it here.

    Currently there are just under 5k satellites around earth. Just under 2k of them are active. Spacelink is going to add 10k? And they want another 30k? That seems a bit excessive, no?

    According to the data by Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) which keeps a record of the number of operational satellites, out of 4,987 satellites that revolved around the earth in 2018, only 1,957 are operational. This means currently less than 40% of the satellites that are in orbit are operational.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/tech/spacex-starlink-satellite-internet-launch-trnd/index.html

    The company has permission from regulators to launch more than 10,000 Starlink satellites and it recently requested permission to add as many as 30,000 to that number.
     
  17. Bo Pelinis

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    Space junk is a big concern. There are an estimated 500,000 items between .4 and 4 inches orbiting earth (see gif), much of which came from China when it blew up a weather satellite in space like a bunch of idiots. 30,000 satellites is a lot (there's an estimated 23,000 items larger than 4 inches orbiting earth as of the article linked below) but it's not really anything compared to all those small pieces that can fuck up kind of anything out there.

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    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/reference/space-junk/
     
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  18. dblplay1212

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    Yea I know about the junk but I assume these satellites are much bigger than .4 to 4 inches. I was just surprised one company would be authorized to put that many up. The night sky is going to end up looking like a disco ball.
     
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    To your point I edited to include that 30k is more than the total amount of things bigger than 4 inches currently. It's a lot.
     
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    This is good though

     
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    Luckily all of Elon musks plans have worked seamlessly so we should definitely allow him to do whatever he wants
     
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    I have no idea what excessive is, but I feel like this is a pretty cool especially bc high sleed access is extremely limited in sojch of the world
     
  23. Where Eagles Dare

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    Glad to see you coming around
     
  24. Bo Pelinis

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    I think offering high speed internet to the third world without heavy infrastructure investment could be a great thing for humanity. Don't really care who does it but I see SpaceX being able to do it because of how cheaply they can reuse their own rockets.
     
  25. dblplay1212

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    You think doubling the amount of objects over 4" in the sky is cool? I'm all for high speed access being more readily accessible around the world but idk about 30k freaking satellites.
     
  26. Where Eagles Dare

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    I don't think it really fucking matters
     
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  27. dblplay1212

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    Oh.
     
  28. Arliden

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    I think we talked about it when they originally launched and you could see them all in a row.

    It will probably bother me too and something I’ve thought about, that and no longer being able to get out of cell service when you are backpacking.

    On the other hand those satellites will obviously be spread out, and what you see at night might be a couple more than you see now.
     
  29. billdozer

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    These will be at low orbit , which covers an elevation area of 160-2000 km. So it's a pretty big area. That's where the ISS and most weather/scientific satellites are. When India and China blew up their satellites, they left over 400 and 2000 pieces of debris in this zone. NASA says those pieces should eventually fall back to earth.
     
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    I think unless there's information out there that doing this would create more meaningful harm than potentially altering our view at night, I don't see a reason to oppose doing it just at face value.
     
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    Your judgment is questionable, Mr. haven't seen any good mustang designs since the 70's.
     
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  33. dblplay1212

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    Yet he'll 100% like this truck.
     
  34. Where Eagles Dare

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    Yet I've already posted that it'll be ugly wrt all the articles about it's design
     
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  36. dblplay1212

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    Mustang hatchback :facepalm:
     
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    That ain't an SUV.
     
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  38. Where Eagles Dare

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    OK ok ok ok....

    Ford puts out an SUV exactly like the Model 3

    OMG ELON MUSK YOU LIAR
     
  39. dblplay1212

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    :facepalm:
     
  40. Where Eagles Dare

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    Yeah, I know. Crazy
     
  41. dblplay1212

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  42. Where Eagles Dare

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    So every other non-tesla car manufacturer call something an SUV that you don't think is an SUV.

    My argument all along. Thanks Ford
     
  43. dblplay1212

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    Your level of fanboy is hilarious.

    "Ford called their hatchback an SUV. Totally excuses bae doing it! Let me defend his honor again on the internet."
     
  44. Where Eagles Dare

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    It has nothing to do with fanboy anything.

    My point all along has been Tesla released an SUV in line with what the entire industry is calling an SUV.

    You disagreed and said I was wrong.

    Now Ford is doing it too,just as I said. An SUV has evolved well past a Ford Explorer. You're just too stupid to understand that. It has nothing to with Tesla
     
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  45. dblplay1212

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    :laugh:
     
  46. Where Eagles Dare

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    Yes, thanks for ending the argument bc you have nothing to say.

    It has nothing to do with Tesla.

    I've seen promoted articles comparing the Mustang to the Y, but haven't read them. Seemed weird they were comparing a sports car to an SUV.

    I guess I now know why, SUV to SUV
     
  47. Where Eagles Dare

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    Best thing about the Ford is the name

    Mach-E is dope
     
  48. dblplay1212

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    The fact that you honestly think your fanboy doesnt affect your view of anything involving Tesla is my favorite part of this thread. You'll 100% like the truck. It can get a 1% like rating and you'll be in the 1%.

    Ford doing doesn't excuse Tesla doing it. It's disingenuous on both.
     
  49. dblplay1212

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    Considering they just jacked the name from the iconic Mach 1, it's actually pretty terrible.

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