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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by TheFreak55, Apr 29, 2015.
Agree with all of this. The Rivian SUV looks like a Range Rover imo.
Has anyone seen a price range on the Rivian R1S? I assume it'll be close to $100k?
I feel like the absolute loaded, max battery pack one is right at $100k. I can’t remember where I saw that though.
Looks like a Ford Edge imo
I figured that would be about it. I'm intrigued by electric but damn it just sucks that the high end ones that I'd want are $100k when a comparable gas SUV is $60k.
Really? I don't see that at all. Edge is much more rounded.
The fully loaded has like a 180 battery pack, you can get it at 75 and 125, I think. The 180 has like a 500 mile range or some such. The smaller battery packs will be fine for ~90% of driving.
They’ve said their pricing will actually be lower than initially expected. I wouldn’t think $100k, I’d guess $90k is maxed out. Especially with some competition starting to appear and they likely got some VA/VE via the partnership with Ford.
Hmm interesting. If I could get that closer to $75k, it'd be a harder decision between that and the new body style Grand Cherokee. I like that RIvian a fuck ton. Bad ass truck, at least aesthetically.
Yeah, that middle-tier battery is what I’d be interested in as well.
Types and availability of chargers will be important as well. I still think EV's would be so much better off if they all got together and used the same charging stations.
Sorry I was thinking Ford Flex
Ahh yea I can see that. The stance is a little different but yea the overall shape is similar.
Similar self driving tech to Tesla?
Rivian is a clear ape of the new Defender
As far as I know, yes.
My family has land in Blair. Was it random the pic you used was from Sid Dillon?
Looks cool but is there any reason to not expect the first few years to bug riddled messes as the roll this out?
Is Nikola a real company or a spoof?
Don’t know this source at all.
They have my attention.
I could probably live with the base R1S. I’d love the 400 mile range but not for an additional $30k.
Questions on these based on very relevant power tool ownership...
what does resale value do in face of deteriorating battery? Is that a $15k expense on some time horizon that eats into any equity?
resale values seem pretty good on model 3’s, as long as your battery isn’t faulty you should be fine.
Seems like typical battery degradation is 10% at 100,000 miles or so, but every battery is different.
If you want to do a deep dive I’d recommend searching tesla motors club forum over this thread, since the former has actual owner experiences.
survey of people’s batteries over time in a google doc
Tesla’s powertrain warranty:
Model 3 and Model Y Standard or Standard Range Plus - 8 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
Model 3 and Model Y Long Range or Performance - 8 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
Friend picked up a new whip about an hour ago
I’m seriously considering a model 3 but will probably wait to see the y in person. I have a 2016 Denali 2500 that’s paid off and I’d keep it and use the Tesla as my daily driver
My model 3 had something stick in the tire and sling up onto the side of the car. Punctured tire and dented/scratched side of car. Strange freak accident. I called the Tesla approved body shop that is like 2 hrs from me....next appt available is in May...
I have really enjoyed my model 3 performance so far though. Never thought I would ever go back to a non-SUV or truck
Model s on the way
Sweet solid axle where the motors/gearboxes are supposed to go.
I have much more faith in Rivian than Nikola right now, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
Lots of horror stories out there of people having to wait months for minor repairs
I am a manager on the auto appraiser side for an insurance company in the Silicon Valley (where basically every other car is a Tesla nowadays) we handle by far and away the most Teslas in the country........and yes this is a very common thing to be months out to get basic repairs done, we have had some bigger jobs where the car has been there 6-8 months it’s terrible......I have Tesla certified shops who literally stock up and horde Tesla parts just so they don’t have to wait for parts.....they also don’t allow repairs on most structural components so for minor structural repairs that could be repaired quick you have to replace the part and then you can’t put it on a regular frame rack, you need to put it on a Cilette rack which is more labor intensive, most of the parts are aluminum which means you have to replace most parts that could be repaired if it were sheet metal........yeah just a total pain in the ass my appraisers hate dealing with Teslas
I would assume rental car benefits on insurance policies don’t extend to 8 months
Damn I didn't realize it was still that bad.
Typically you get 30 days first party now if you’re the claimant we would cover till whenever your car is ready, but if we are racking up thousands of rental car costs we might just total your car since it maybe cheaper to total it versus repair plus pay the rental
Have you seen an example of totaling the Tesla and the claimant not being able to get a replacement for ~a month or more?
Anybody in here have experience installing the home charger? Ie total cost including the electrician’s installation?
tbh once we cut you a check for the total loss no clue what happens after that, typically though it would take 30-40k worth of damages to total a Tesla so it’s a bit more difficult to total one out
It will only get worse now that they’re selling more cars
Up over 7% yesterday to 858.4 and up over 7.5% in the futures to 924.
I’m a structurally certified writer at a certified shop. As much as I love the increase in rates the parts issue still sucks. When the insurance appraisers come out for supplements it can be somewhat amusing.
my appraisers are like fuck I got a 80 line supplement for a Tesla lol we have a few body shops actually owned by Tesla here and those guys are so slammed they don’t even save the parts or anything they just take pics for us best they can and repair the car so if they can’t document something then we can’t pay for it, but they don’t care they will eat the supp or part just to get the car out of there
I hear ya. When I did my Tesla training I felt like I was in fucking science class again. As a shop the best thing we can do is email everything Tesla emails us regarding parts delays to the customer. I take it you work with a lot of Audi, BMW, and Porsche out there too?
yup we do a ton of those here too, and our labor rate out here we pay $95/hour body and $47 paint and materials generally........so you can imagine what looks like pretty minor accident all of a sudden ends up being 10-12k in damages and now we have to recalibrate all the ADAS equipped cars
Yeah they do, which is great for my income. I also understand the insurance side point of view also. I always feel bad for the appraiser who comes out for a supplement on a photo claim.
Don't claimants only owe reasonable repair time....