texas is ending the mask mandate, is now covid central

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  1. Dump

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  2. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Bun B could legit run for public office here
     
  3. bwi2

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    I’m certainly no expert, but I’d be shocked to see schools mandate that children be vaccinated with vaccines being administered under an Emergency Use Authorization. Much more likely to come after full trials and studies are complete.

    I also think it’s kinda crazy to make assumptions about what the world will definitely look like in 3-6 months given concerns about effectiveness with regards to variants, questions about global distribution, questions about how much resistance there will be to the vaccine, etc. People are deciding what the solution is without knowing what the problem is.
     
  4. The Banks

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    Just realized that Pfizer is already approved for 16 and up (moderna is 18+). So that’s great news.
     
  5. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    From what I recall, FDA only wanted six months of safety data to give full authorization. I got my second shot in the Moderna trial (before they unblinded us in January) last September so that would only extend out until March.
     
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    That’s for J&J which is obviously months behind Pfizer and Moderna. Pfizer is already approved for kids 16+ and both are moving along in their trials for 12+ and about to start ones for even younger.
     
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  8. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Moderna is doing trials with kids as young as six months. The research nurse two visits ago told me that they were already getting bombarded with emails from people (some currently in the Phase 3 like me) wanting to see if they could enroll their kids, so hopefully all that enthusiasm means they'll have plenty of data shortly.
     
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    Lets all keep in mind that adult vaccination is going to push community spread and numbers way down that'll make it much less risky for kids.
     
  10. steamengine

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  11. steamengine

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    The growth of the dfw suburbs have already fucked up this state enough.
     
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    Also, sorry if this is a dumb question - but isn't the thought that this would be an annual vaccine, ala the flu? So how would that work requiring it for schools?

    I get requiring the other shots that are one and done (or taken every 10 years or whatever). But if annual flu shot isn't required for school, I think you'll have a hard time swaying public opinion to support requiring the annual covid vax for school. Especially in underserved areas where kids don't get routine checkups or access to medical care is limited. I would think you would have to administer the shot in school to get actual adoption of this. And that opens up a whole new world of logistical hurdles as well.

    I may be talking completely out of my ass here since I haven't had to put kids through school and all the vaccines it requires, but it seems shots like polio and stuff are easier to require and enforce than an annual shot.
     
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    1. We don’t know if we’ll need it annually or not. A lot could depend on variants/mutations.

    2. Covid is not the flu and nowhere close so I don’t see how not requiring the flu shot (they are required some places) is comparable to not requiring the covid vaccine.

    3. Administering the shot in schools makes it easier logistically for the parents, the kids, and the healthcare professionals and volunteers.
     
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    i haven't seen a restaurant that i would actually go to say anything other than we are retaining the protocols that have been in place
     
  15. The Banks

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    Tilman Fertits even doing the right thing?
     
  16. Hoss Bonaventure

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    All of our favorites all say that they are sticking to CDC guidelines and the recommendations of medical professionals and continuing with limited capacity and masks are required.
     
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    haven't seen anything from any of his restaurants.

    i only go to his steakhouse and i don't think many of the people there would be cool with relaxing the protocols.

    guessing bubba gump shrimp and stuff of that ilk will be a free for all
     
  18. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Yeah all the chain type of stuff outside of the actual city is going to be a covid orgy. None of the nice restaurants have to worry about those people as they’d never go to any of them in the first place. Thankfully those people don’t venture to the good restaurants or even into the city for the most part.
     
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    who's arguing different? not really sure what the point of your bizarre post was since nobody has been discussing school mandating whatsoever.
     
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    dont be weird

     
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    states mandating != schools mandating, you doofus. you act like we don't already have mandated vaccines for children in public schools. with herd immunity out of reach without the <18 population and the risk at-large to immunocompromised children and recent pushes in many state legislatures for removing all non-medical exemptions to vaccinations (already happening in several states), it's perfectly within reason to expect states to fold the covid vaccine into the rigmarole already in place for the other vaccines.
     
  22. The Banks

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    What % is immunocompromised?

    ~81% of the population is 16+

    Between immunocompromised and opt-outs could we get that number down to 6%?
     
  23. bwi2

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    Sure, when the vaccine trials are complete for children and they’re no longer under an EUA, which is what I said in the post for which you’re making up arguments that school authority is somehow not derived from state authority.
     
  24. Daniel Ocean

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    LAUSD already requires certain vaccines. Add this one to it.
     
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  25. IV

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  26. ned's head

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    Saw this as a summary for the grocery stores. Sucks because I do market street. I cannot fathom a maskless central market. That's already like fucking Bonnaroo

     
  27. TAS

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    Is Kroger actually requiring masks? I thought I saw a statement saying they encourage customers to wear them
     
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  28. ned's head

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    I read this as a yes, but I'll see on Sunday since market street is dead to me

     
  29. Z

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    Not really. She’s pretty much followed Dr. Harris’ advice throughout. I was shocked when the pandemic first began, but she’s pretty consistently sided with the medical professionals over any political pressures.
     
  30. TAS

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    This is what I saw from KHOU

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    "Although the statewide mask mandate has been lifted in Texas, to ensure the safety of our customers and associates, Kroger will continue to follow health and safety guidelines recommended by the CDC by requiring all associates in our stores to wear a mask. We encourage all customers visiting our stores to continue to wear a mask to protect themselves, those around them, and our associates.

    "We remind those who can’t wear masks that we offer low touch or no touch pickup and delivery services."​


    I think HEB and Kroger both will continue to ask people that enter without a mask on to please put one on, but neither will go beyond that. And I expect mask compliance to be remain pretty high, but it's unfortunate those places lost the leverage that the mandate provided. Might have to be a cunt the next few months and stick to Phoenicia as much as possible
     
  31. Eathan Edwards

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    They are - I'm on zoom calls that he's on pretty often since they own Catch now and it sounds like they're going to be pretty adherent.

    No promises.
     
  32. Oranjello

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    Not really. She opened up beaches, restaurants, football games, etc. all early and when things were fairly grim (i.e., before the time recommended by medical professionals). Yes, she has done some surprising things, but you’re giving her more credit than is deserved.

    Edit: Not to mention her toothless “safer at home” orders and the like.
     
  33. chuckmasterflex

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    I just personally find it interesting that Texas, which is decidedly to the left of many other red states, and moving leftward, produces politicians on the local level who seem to view their role to shit stir in national politics and own the libs.

    For instance, Ohio has gotten more red in presidential and senate elections, but Mike DeWine doesn't wake up every morning trying to figure out how he can get on Tucker Carlson that night.
     
  34. spagett

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    Fair, but I was still surprised since the tide seemed to be turning amongst dumbass states
     
  35. steamengine

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    Tillman will do whatever sells the most zany shrimp cocktails. I’d imagine remaining as neutral as possible on the subject is his objective.
     
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  36. Dump

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    The major cities are pretty left except if you think Ft Worth or Waco are “major” cities

    Everything else is a shithole of moral depravity
     
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  37. William

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    Asking low paid grocery store workers to enforce a facemask rule that is no longer reinforced at the state or local level is asking a lot. The redhat bubbas will ultimately declare war on anyone infringing upon their “rights,” so these stores are probably concerned about liability when their workers are inevitably assaulted.
     
  38. Redav

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    Yeah the lowest paid workers have to enforce it just to protect themselves at a job they have to be at to pay bills. It's not these decision makers actually bearing the brunt of these decisions.
     
  39. Hoss Bonaventure

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    So fucking nice. I get lost in there
     
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    No idea if this is consistent amongst grocery chains - but the "entry leadership crew" at Trader Joe's make significantly more than the other floor staff.

    It's not the same as the MAGA brigade of course but it's somewhat analogous - they have to ward off waves of insane/homeless people pretty much the entire day.

    I think a lot of grocery stores will have to add security though - to your point.
     
  42. dtx

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    they have a cop at the target here to enforce masks. have since it started. guessing they’ll have to get security/an off duty cop at most places if they’re really about it
     
  43. Cornfed Buffalo

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    Carry on
     
  44. ned's head

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    Hits the mark, random internet man

     
  45. Tobias

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    20 years ago texas had johnny cash, steve jobs and bob hope. now they have no cash, no jobs and no hope
     
  46. Nandor the Relentless

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    They may require it but around here they do absolutely nothing to enforce it, even with their employees
     
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  49. ned's head

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    Texags will have a 10 page thread in this by COB
     
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