The addiction thread: A safe place for questions or advice or really anything

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  1. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Yeah I read up on it. Figured I’d wait and see what the dr says and go from there. All the bad symptoms I was having have stopped (puking/shitting yellow) but I just want to see what else I can do or if just not drinking is enough.
     
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  2. NoNatty

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    Trying to self detox yourself (if you’re to the point where you having shakes) is stupid. Not worth the risk.
     
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  3. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Yeah I knew the risks but did it. It’s why I didn’t go cold turkey.
     
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  4. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Not going to lie, I was terrified going through it. We had a “to go” bag packed with clothes and whatnot so if I felt to bad we could go to the hospital ASAP. I even set my heart rate on my Apple Watch so if it got to high I’d know. Slept in it and everything. When I first started my goal was to at least try and get off of hard alcohol even if it meant drinking beer and I wanted to drink less and less of it because it would make the withdrawals less severe but one day I woke up and wasn’t soaked in sweat and felt really good and I was able to keep tapering off at that point with no more issues with anything. I have anxiety issues as it is so it absolutely wrecked me mentally as well as I played out every single worse case scenario in my head all day and night.
     
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  5. NoNatty

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    yeah, I just wouldn’t recommend it. Even if you don’t go cold turkey, it can be dodgy. Everything besides Benzos and alcohol people can detox themselves.
     
  6. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Yeah I’m not sure how “far gone” I was. I didnt have the symptoms for an extended time before I made the decision to quit. It scared the fuck out of me so that’s when I made the decision to quit. At first I thought they were caused by the pain meds I was on after my surgery but once I finished those and the symptoms were still there I knew it had to be the alcohol and that I had to stop. I’m not a healthcare professional by any means and I knew the risks and at any point if it became too bad I was more than willing to go to the hospital or rehab. I have nothing against going to rehab I just thought I’d give weening off of it a try and see if it got any better and if it wouldn’t have I would have absolutely gone for treatment.
     
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  7. Hoss Bonaventure

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    I’m definitely not trying to say this is a safe method, just that it worked for me. Everyone is different and has their own demons with addiction. I’m just sharing my experience with alcohol addiction and withdrawals. Please feel free to ask any questions and I’ll do my best to help explain what I went through but I did consult my dr about it and I recommend anyone going through it to do the same.
     
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  8. TrustyPatches

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    I’m glad it worked for you hawk but I think it must be stressed just in case anyone is reading your posts and thinking of trying it themselves that they absolutely should not attempt it. Detoxing from alcohol can kill you. This isn’t like sweating out fentanyl, coke or heroin. Alcohol can kill you. I’m glad it worked for you and you’re safe and healthy, but anyone who thinks it may be an idea for them is wrong
     
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  9. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Yeah as I said it’s just what worked for me. I don’t know what anyone else’s drinking habits are like. I was drinking like that for about 4-5 months so I don’t know if I wasn’t just not that far into it or what and maybe that’s how I was able to ween myself off like I did. It also affects everyone differently so I have no clue only what I went through myself. My wife’s grandmother drank for over 60 years and broke her hip and had to stay in the hospital and went through withdrawals there at around the same time I was going through my ordeal. She didn’t get the DT’s (which are often confused with just the shakes but apparently are much more severe with hallucinations) but it’s an individual basis. Some people can drink hard for years with nothing and some it hits quicker. Not a doctor.
     
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  10. 941Gator

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    Thread title is clearly at the top of the page, pal.
     
  11. hipsterjoe

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    Have been having some bad side effects from my antidepressant over the past month or so and started some pretty intense withdrawals today. Ended up taking one just to get me through to my doctors appointment on Tuesday
     
  12. TC

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    How long were you on them? What made you decide to quit?
     
  13. Pharm

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    Depending in the half-life of it you should definitely be tapering off and not cold turkey it.
     
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  14. hipsterjoe

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    about two years. Over the past month and a half or so I suddenly had no energy, stopped sleeping, lost my libido and just felt overall pretty meh. at first I thought maybe it was the keto diet I was doing, and then I thought maybe I had the flu. went to the doctor and my blood test came back fine so the medicine was the only other thing. I didn't take it one day and slept through the night for the first time in over a month so that's how I figured it out
     
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  15. Zebbie

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    Yeah, I don’t think you should ever cold turkey quit an SSRI from what my doc has told me
     
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  16. hipsterjoe

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    I wasn't quitting quit turkey and I don't take an SSRI. My current prescription is an extended release medication so I started taking a pill every 48 hours instead of every morning. Yesterday I tried to space it to 60-72 hours between doses and it hit me pretty hard at about 60 hours. I take wellbutrin fwiw
     
  17. devine

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    Can quitting anti depressants cold turkey put you in a state of psychosis? A murder podcast I listened to said a suspect used that as his defense
     
  18. TC

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    It would certainly fuck with your emotional state
     
  19. hipsterjoe

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    let me say that after feeling the way I did yesterday I could see that happening. I almost felt manic and “out of body”
     
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  20. devine

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    Scary. What were you taking?
     
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  22. Pharm

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    Interesting. I would definitely talk yo your doctor, might be better to get an RX of the immediate realase for a taper. That way you can control the mg and how often. However, it has a long half life so what you were doing should have ok.
     
  23. hipsterjoe

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    yep I have an appointment tomorrow
     
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    You should be in the clear stopping Wellbutrin, it does not work in the same way as SSRIs. Those you definitely don’t want to stop abruptly.
     
  25. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Just got back from gi dr. Have to get a ct on Thursday. Looks like I have a mass on my liver. Said it’s most likely benign but they want to make sure and I’ll have to just have routine ct scans to see if it gets any bigger.
     
  26. NoNatty

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    the brain does weird shit and everyone’s is a little bit different. That said, no. Serotonin usually isn’t the issue with psychosis (from what we know).
     
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  27. Prospector

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    Ts and ps even tho you're a fan of the Cowboys
     
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  28. fattus

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    I'm pretty disappointed in my managers. We have a guy here who shows up for work drunk all the time. He also goes to his car and does shots during the day and will channel his inner Maurice Clarett and fill a water bottle with vodka and drink from that at his desk. Last week he is absolutely obliterated at his desk. Doing the old one-eye to see his monitor, randomly blurting out nonsense, basically your normal shitfaced behavior. My boss and dude are buddies. So my boss calls him a cab and sends him home without giving him a breath test, so now there's no proof so no discipline.

    They aren't doing this guy any favors. If he got away with it once, in his mind he'll get away with it again (and again and again and again). I just hope he doesn't kill someone on the roads driving drunk into or home from work.

    This guy needs help, not protection. Put him on FMLA and send him to treatment. We have really good insurance for that.

    The more you enable an addict the worse they get.
     
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    My god, how sad.
     
  30. devine

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    Is standard work policies if you blow for alcohol that you’re fired or sent to rehab?
     
  31. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Depends on the company and polices but a lot of times you can go to rehab if you’re willing to admit you have a problem and agree to go for treatment.
     
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    Getting breathalyzed at work would be quite humiliating
     
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  33. Tony Ray Bans

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    A few years ago I worked at a start up and our VP of Sales had previously worked with me at Oracle. He was a pretty high up guy at Oracle but had been fired following this incident http://www.bellevuereporter.com/news/kemper-development-settles-munchbar-wrongful-death-lawsuit/

    This dude would be drinking at the office all day. Was almost always sloshed by mid afternoon. One morning I came in at like 7 and it was just me and him in the office. We were both getting coffee and i watched him pour vodka into his coffee. He sees me notice and goes "you want some titos?" Being that it was like 7 AM on a wednesday I told him I was good. I think he sensed that I was a little taken aback by it so he added "Its to ease the pain in my back." He then proceeded to take 3 hydocodeine and wash it down with the coffee/vodka. Dude was wild.

    That said, he was an incredible natural salesperson. He could close anyone. If youre valuable enough, you can get away with a lot.
     
  34. NoNatty

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    this couldn’t be more true. A close colleague of mine who battled alcoholism now comes to work stoned everyday. He is universally loved by administration, staff, and patients though so nothing ever happens.
     
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  35. Hoss Bonaventure

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    When I work on construction sites they have these things you blow into and the strip can detect alcohol and drugs. I’ve never seen them use them though. If someone showed up and was still drunk or hungover the foreman would take them to the safety rep and they’d always just have someone take them home. I’ve never seen anyone come in after that happens drunk again.
     
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    In the least surprising news of the week, he did it again last week and it was worse than before. Caused a major disruption on the whole floor. A manager from another group had to intervene. He was finally fired today. I really hope they give him the option to come back if he gets sober for a bit.
     
  38. devine

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    This has happened to me but we have random drug and alcohol tests