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  1. Fran Tarkenton

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    Zaccharie Risacher, SF, Bourg (France) | Age: 19.1

    The Hawks casted a wide net through the pre-draft process, aggressively recruiting nearly every prospect in the lottery for workouts while also bringing in players projected outside that range, indicating the team is preparing for different strategies depending on what it learns and potential trade opportunities.

    While it appears the Hawks are far from making final decisions, many teams say their intel indicates Risacher remains the favorite at No. 1, partially because of the dual-track flexibility he offers of either remaining competitive next season or tapping into his upside as the type of big, versatile wing that is difficult to acquire outside the draft. The Hawks will bring Risacher in for a workout Wednesday, his first with the team thus far, which should help add clarity regarding his standing.

    The Hawks have been unable to bring Alex Sarr in for a workout to this point, but the door remains open for that to potentially happen. Clingan appears to be Risacher's main rival at No. 1. His workout -- where he shot the ball extremely well, showed surprisingly good passing ability operating out of short rolls and was impressive both in film study and in interviews -- helped his draft standing and makes him as possible sleeper selection here, as we've discussed for several weeks.

    The status of Atlanta's Trae Young is the big question hovering over the franchise. One option that has been widely discussed among teams is the possibility of the Hawks reacquiring their unprotected 2025 first-round pick from San Antonio (perhaps in a swap for the No. 4 pick), which would give the team far more flexibility for rebuilding. That would currently be difficult to fathom, with their next three draft picks (2025, 2026 swap rights and 2027) owned by the Spurs.

    The Hawks worked out Reed Sheppard last week and Clingan before that, two attractive options at No. 4 should they elect to slide back. Atlanta also brought in Matas Buzelis, Cody Williams and Ron Holland for workouts. -- Givony



    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...-draft-all-58-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams
     
  2. Fran Tarkenton

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    only chance I am moving off of 1 with the Spurs is by getting #4 plus 1 of the picks or the swap back.

    pretty much sold on Risacher at this point.
     
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  3. BudKilmer

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    Seems like Sarr is out, and seems like there is interest in Capela on an expiring.

    I’d still trade Clint and Dejountae to No for Daniel’s and Ingram. I’d draft Risacher or Clingan


    And re sign Vit please.
     
  4. BudKilmer

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    whatever in the fuck happened in his crazy family last year we need unfucked this year
     
  5. SuperCam

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    I dont get it with Risacher. If Sarr doesn't want to come, I would like to see us trade for sure. It seems like Risacher and Clingan have enough interest from teams that we should get a good return.
     
  6. BudKilmer

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  7. BudKilmer

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    How we feeling today fellas
     
  8. Fran Tarkenton

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    Give me Risacher if we stay at 1

    Clingan or Castle if we move back

    and find a way to get Hunter off the books. Capela on an expiring, so only move him if it brings back a nice asset.
     
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  9. Gaknight

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    Nick Ressler runs the team so not great
     
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  10. Gaknight

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    This is my nightmare

     
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  11. Sanjuro

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    Hopeful but ready to be disappointed. Don’t want Risacher.
     
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  12. Fran Tarkenton

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    Woj saying its either Rissacher or Reed Sheppard; but very likely the Frenchie.
     
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  13. Fran Tarkenton

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  14. Fran Tarkenton

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    :chatzy:

    we did not fuck that up for once
     
  15. BudKilmer

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    It’s just impossible to acquire wings of his toolkit. OG just got 42 million. Mikal went for 5 firsts.
     
  16. Fran Tarkenton

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  17. BudKilmer

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  18. SuperCam

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    Does this change trade targets for Murray? Seems like we wouldn’t also trade for Ingram now
     
  19. Fran Tarkenton

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    think we are going to run it back while reshaping the frontcourt

    prob smart to at least try and rehab value of the backcourt if the results are still way short
     
  20. BudKilmer

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    Won’t be a trade tonight but I’d be shocked if Capela is on the roster next year. I’d also think DJM and Hunter are less than 50% to be here. I’d be fine with Deandre coming off the bench
     
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  21. Gaknight

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    Luka and ZR

    Euro pro dads
    Questionable athleticism
    Not trained in America
    Tall
     
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  22. Virgil Caine

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    So here's where things stand:

    Ballhandlers:
    Trae Young, 26, $43 million in 24-25
    Dejounte Murray, 28, $25.2 million
    Kobe Bufkin, 21, $4.3 million

    Wings:
    Bogdan Bogdanovic, 32, $17.2 million
    De'Andre Hunter, 27, $21.6 million
    A.J. Griffin, 21, $3.8 million
    Garrison Mathews, 28, $2.2 million (if they choose to pick up his option)

    Combo Wing/Forwards:
    Jalen Johnson, 23, $4.5 million
    Zaccharie Risacher, 19, $12.6 million

    Bigs:
    Clint Capela, 30, $22.2 million
    Onyeka Okongwu, 24, $14 million
    Mo Gueye, 22, $1.8 million
    Bruno Fernando, 26, $2.7 million (Non-Guaranteed)

    They have 4 RFAs they could offer or let walk:

    Saddiq Bey
    Dylan Windler
    Vit Krejci
    Seth Lundy

    Point being: They're already at $199 million (Cap is $141 million) in Total Cap, which would not only put them over the 1st Apron, but also the 2nd Apron. There's no way they don't make moves.
     
  23. Gaknight

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    Mo Gueye and Risacher summer league is gonna hit like crack
     
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  24. Sanjuro

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    They aren’t at $199M. It’s $175M. They can trade either Capela or Hunter and get under the first tax line $171M (barring no salary back) as well as sign Krejci (at a reasonable salary). That puts them at 14 players so needing a vet to plug into that last spot.

    Saddiq Bey is probably not going to be resigned with Risacher coming in. I don’t see how they will stay under the first tax line because there are just not many teams that can take in salary and not give any back. Ressler will just have to forgo his $12M luxury tax payment this season.
     
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  25. BudKilmer

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    kobe Bufkin having some G league level player in hell will give me wood
     
  26. BudKilmer

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  28. Fran Tarkenton

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    selling very low on him but he is a right wing chud, adios.

     
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  29. Gaknight

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    Gotta save the cap
     
  30. Gaknight

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    My favorite part of being a hawks fan is we wait until players have no value before trading them.
     
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  31. BudKilmer

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    every fucking time
     
  32. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    go ahead and use that pick on bronny if he's there. Just throw a couple more tires on the fire.
     
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  33. SuperCam

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    Man I was hoping we’d move Murray to get a legit option at the two, but I know options are limited
     
  34. BudKilmer

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    if we don’t sign Vit I might go burn down the gulch
     
  35. Fran Tarkenton

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    Trae is our actual issue. He needs to either figure it out or we blow it up entirely.

    if the DJM market had an obvious suitor Id be game to do it now, but youd be selling at a huge loss.
     
  36. SuperCam

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    Trae is too tied into PR and ticket sales. They won’t let him go until he demands it
     
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  37. Gaknight

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    Ok I can get behind this Nikola guy drafted in the 40s and will settle for 2 MVPs
     
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  38. BudKilmer

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    We paid cash to move up and get our guy for the second year in a row.

    all those tax breaks and luxury tax checks burning a hole in our boys pocket.
     
  39. juice

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  40. Gaknight

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    I like Dyson but this again
     
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  41. Fran Tarkenton

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    Lakers 2025 (garbage pick)

    Bucks 2027 (garbage pick)

    what a disaster, never should have moved him (or traded for him).
     
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  42. BudKilmer

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    Lakers 25 could be good. West is insane and lakers are 1 injury from being in the lottery.

    maybe we learned our lesson on wings?
     
  43. Owsley

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    Is there any direction at all right now? This entire “project” seems like a case study in throwing shit against a wall, and shockingly, none of it sticking.
     
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  44. BudKilmer

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    also, if we can put a top 15ish defense on the court, we will be a factor in the East
     
  45. BudKilmer

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    Get Capela out of there and I love Jalen playing with OO and Nance
     
  46. Owsley

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    What’s a realistic expectation for Risacher next year?
     
  47. jkun

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    I am kind of like at least we did something, but I don’t know probably better to just have run it back without having our own 1st next year
     
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  48. Fran Tarkenton

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    the only way it gets back on track is Trae not being who he has been his entire career. But perhaps Trae gets back on track + functions better with a stout frontcourt (and just never functions with an elite SG next to him).

    but lets be honest, he ain't it. It was a fun season or two. The Doncic trade failed. and the sooner Ressler's son swallows his pride and owns up to the mistake...the quicker we can blow it up properly..

    or maybe some mythical Free Agent finally hits the market and we become a destination
     
  49. BudKilmer

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    The numbers with Trae and literally anyone in a hawks jersey were light years better than Trae and DJM together.

    get length and shooting around him and you are probably out of the play in. If OO is in the starting line up, you also maximize Jalen
     
  50. BudKilmer

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    This is kind of where I am. We were so small and slight 1-3 last 2 years. We learned all the wrong lessons from 2021-2022