The Atlanta HAWKS thread- Defund Tony Ressler

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  1. DollarBillHokie

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    Dirk's +/- was awful. Did he just fall over and play dead every possession?
     
  2. DelapThrows

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    He really can't defend or even rebound any more. Like... at all.
     
  3. Gaknight

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    Lose all the games and get DeAndre Ayton next to Collins please.
     
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  4. allothersnsused

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    Bill Simmons tweet about teams in the tank sent me back here drooling over Bagley.
     
  5. Fran Tarkenton

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    Trae Young :lovelove:
     
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  6. BudKilmer

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    I'd take Trae or Doncic and be happy
     
  7. allothersnsused

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    https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/12/...nets-pick-2018-nba-draft-improve-wings-inside

    Got really excited at the first option, but Collins seems legit and the Nets aren't as bad as people thought. If we could include Schroeder instead of Collins I'd do that in a heartbeat, but Schroeder + Baze salaries are too big to make the deal work. Collins was a steal but is his upside as good as a guy we could take in the lottery?

    Four first round picks (one and more likely two lottery) and a high second in this draft though? So tempting.
     
  8. Gaknight

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    If you can turn Collins into Ayton or Bagley and get rid of Bazemore’s retarded contract you may just have to do it

    Doncic And Ayton or Bagley would be fucking amazing.
     
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  9. High Cotton

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    Do it, do it, do it. Let's make a deal.

    Late night Phoenix and Clipps losses were so bad on the road trip
     
  10. allothersnsused

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    Problem is that the Nets could easily be closer to the 7-10 range than the 1-5 range. Tough to tell at this point, since so many teams are clustered toward the bottom, but the Nets have no reason to tank while other teams do. At that pick, you have a little more risk (I think the consensus is that the "Top Tier" is about 5-6 deep). A quick view of mocks has Cleveland taking Kevin Knox, Collin Sexton, or Jaren Jackson with that pick.

    In any event, it's just a hypothetical and I expect the Cavs to hold on to the pick because I think the writing is on the wall with LeBron. It's just fun to talk about during a season without much else to discuss.
     
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  11. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Why get rid of Collins? He seems good and I don't understand gutting the team again.
     
  12. Gaknight

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    It annoys me how well Collins plays and Bid keeps him in the bench for trash players so much.
     
  13. allothersnsused

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    All about upside. Collins is a good player and I think he's going to be an NBA starter for a long time. Question is whether the team would rather have a known commodity who might have "above-average starter" upside for a chance at a player with "perennial all-star" upside, while also getting rid of Baze's bad contract.

    The Hawks have, for a long time, made the playoffs with a bunch of John Collins quality players. I think the idea behind gutting the team this year is to aim higher than that.
     
  14. Gaknight

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    Yeah we have a huge issue attracting stars. So if we have a shot through the draft we have to take it.

    2 stars makes atlanta and more attractive destination for a 3rd.
     
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  15. High Cotton

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    The question is whether another gut positions the Hawks to be championship contenders or just playoff contenders. No one should be safe if they're trying to win it all.
     
  16. High Cotton

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    I will never understand this. Is Atlanta just an off-season city for pro athletes? Black Hollywood should be attracting better free agents. Hope the Emory facility helps.
     
  17. SuperCam

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    I don't think the city itself matters much anymore.
     
  18. Fran Tarkenton

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    Stop winning Stop being such a good coach Bud
     
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    Its so painful to flip to a good hawks game and know that your team needs to lose it.
     
  20. Fran Tarkenton

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  21. Savage Rob Chubb

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    Took this video of Bazemore's game winner over Anthony Davis.

     
  22. ugafish

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    Well that sucked to see I guess
     
  23. Fran Tarkenton

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    this team is working its ass off

    Hope they keep losing, but seems like there is a proper culture in place.
     
  24. BudKilmer

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    I love this team and Bud, but the most important thing they can do is lose.

    I want Luka badly
     
  25. Gaknight

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    Luka or Ayton or I’m sad
     
  26. ugafish

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    There are too many teams tanking right now.
     
  27. Gaknight

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    Memphis and the Suns are being blantant about it
     
  28. ugafish

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    Brooklyn looks to be as well.
     
  29. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Educate me, who are these guys? Also, aren't we in a lottery pick of we're one of the six worst teams anyways and being the worst doesn't automatically guarantee you the first pick? How does that shit work?
     
  30. Gaknight

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    I believe the Cavs have their pick
     
  31. Fran Tarkenton

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    John Collins sitting near me at GT bball game

    Love that guy. Think he will be a solid piece for future and marketable.
     
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  32. BudKilmer

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    If we don’t snag Ayton or Luka, I’ll be dissapointed

    Do we have the worst roster in the nba?
     
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  33. ugafish

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    There are 9 teams with a legit shot for worst record. We picked a bad time to tank.
     
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  34. Doc Louis

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    Need to have a d league roster loaded with rec players to call up. Just a team loaded with Darren Rovell-tier talent to tank.
     
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  35. gordon bombay

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    We need Bud to undergo season ending coaching surgery
     
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  36. SuperCam

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    Are yall against Bagley strictly because of Collins already on the roster?
     
  37. Shawn Hunter

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    With the way the NBA game is played, he's not the best player in the draft.
     
  38. SuperCam

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    What do you not like about his game in regards to the NBA?
     
  39. Gaknight

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    He’s fine but he’s not Doncic or Ayton
     
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  40. allothersnsused

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    I was all about him earlier this year but (and I’m not saying he’s going to be this bad) I see a little too much Okafor. That’s a lazy comparison and Bagley is a little more athletic but he can’t play D and his offense is pretty one dimensional.
     
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  41. Shawn Hunter

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    This is basically what I would have said. He's better than Okafor, especially in the rebounding and athleticism departments, but they have similar games.
     
  42. Fran Tarkenton

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    its a bad fit imo

    Bamba would be better next to Collins and obviously Ayton....my question is if the franchise sees Collins as a permanent piece or if they move him to get back up in the 1st round; with this draft having so many options at Big that project higher than JC I could see it.
     
  43. Fran Tarkenton

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    Playoff streak of 10 years is officially over. Good news is we have a legit shot at losing the rest of our games.

    Houston's first round pick is officially ours, but with the best record in the league at the moment would like to see them suffer a key injury of some sort.

    Minnesota's first round pick is still in limbo. Theyre about to get Jimmy Butler back. Currently at 5th in West, but only 1.5 back of 10th. So its going to be razor thin margin for them to make the playoffs, but have a record that sits in the lower end of playoff teams. Minny has the 3rd most difficult schedule remaining.

    https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2018...-2018-nba-minnesota-timberwolves-jimmy-butler
     
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  45. BudKilmer

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    If we get Ayton, I love our front court
     
  46. ugafish

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    Good start to the end of the season by losing to an awful bulls team.
     
  47. allothersnsused

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    Ahhh yes the tanking injuries have arrived.
     
  48. Fran Tarkenton

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    Utah was on a 9 game win streak

    so of course we go on the road and beat them last night :facepalm:
     
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  49. ugafish

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    Bud should have benched Dennis for something. 41 fucking points