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  1. Sean Connery

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    John James Fisher tag the other guys, can't remember who else was in the old thread

    3 weeks until Jameis is a Buc
     
  2. NoleNBlue

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  3. FSUnole1988

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    We are working out a lot of noles hoping we draft an OL or 2 as long as not bobby hart
     
  4. daddy fat sacks

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    I may hang out in here. The Dolphins thread is the worst and I'll probably end up watching more Bucs games than Phins' now that 5 is heading down there.
     
  5. Sean Connery

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    Welcome aboard. Hope you enjoy unmet expectations
     
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  6. daddy fat sacks

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    I'd rather root for 5 and be disappointed than care about going .500 and not making the playoffs each year. Plus I hate the teams in the afc east and like the Nfc south teams a lot. Like the young noles in the the division too.
     
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  7. Zack Zedalis

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    Here for the pain
     
  8. bucs

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    hi yes hello is this the thread for the 2015 NFC south champions?

    we jameis now
     
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  9. JGator1

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    10000% chance we go 16-0 in 2015.
     
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  10. kslim

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    Wtf is this shit
     
  11. fattmante

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    What's up gang
     
  12. Magneto

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    Can the Bucs sign Jameis before the Draft?
     
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  13. fsutis

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    Yep no rule against it
     
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  14. War Grundle

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    Was Jameis in Tampa today? I heard it mentioned but I havent seen any confirmation.
     
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  15. fsutis

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    yes but not to meet officially with anybody from the Bucs. People took pictures of him getting off the plane in Tampa.
     
  16. Boo MFer!

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    My thoughts and prayers are with the females of this fine city.
     
  17. NoleNBlue

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    More convinced than ever that we will take Mariota and he will be killed on the field due to no line.
     
  18. Boo MFer!

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    :fuckyeah:
     
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  19. stangd

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    think I will be a Bucs fan now with Jameis on board
     
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  20. Magneto

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    They will jump to my favorite NFC team once they pick him.
     
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  21. bucs

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    Draft needs, targets for Buccaneers

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    Ahead of the 2015 NFL draft, Insider is providing guides for all 32 teams: biggest need positions from Football Outsiders, top prospect targets from scouts Steve Muench and Kevin Weidl and predictions on how everything will play out from our NFL Nation team reporters.

    Included below are links to every team's article. This is the entry for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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    Roster needs

    Biggest need: Quarterback -- Seeking a "hot take" that goes against all evidence and logic solely for the purpose of being counterintuitive? Try somewhere else. The Bucs need a QB, and will take one at No. 1 overall.

    Quiet need: Offensive line -- A quiet need in comparison to the need for a quarterback, in much the same way that the annoying guy who's talking your ear off on an airplane is "quiet" in comparison to a crying baby in the row behind you. The Bucs were dead last a year ago in adjusted line yards, a Football Outsiders metric that measures run blocking early in runs, and 29th in adjusted sack rate. They also led the league with 58 penalties (including declined/offsetting) from offensive linemen.

    Not a need: Running back --Tampa Bay's running backs didn't have good stats in 2014. Doug Martin, Charles Sims, Mike James and Bobby Rainey all finished below average in Football Outsiders' DVOA ratings. But all four have good track records, and the offensive line is to blame for much of last year's problem. The Bucs have too many holes elsewhere to worry about this position.

    --Aaron Schatz, Football Outsiders

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    Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State (Day 1): Assuming Tampa Bay feels comfortable with Winston's accountability and that his off-the-field issues are behind him, the only thing left is to turn in the card. From an evaluation standpoint, Winston has excellent physical tools and is one of the most advanced quarterback prospects we've studied on tape coming out of college.

    Owa Odighizuwa, DE, UCLA (Day 2): The Buccaneers need help on the edge of their front line. Odighizuwa has average instincts but plays with great leverage as a run defender, flashes explosive power as a pass-rusher and plays with a nonstop motor. He may need a year of development but would provide the immediate depth Tampa Bay desperately needs.

    Laken Tomlinson, G, Duke (Day 2): The offensive line was a mess last season, so infusing size and toughness up front wouldn't be a bad idea. At 323 pounds, Tomlinson has an excellent inline power base as an interior run-blocker and shows quality lateral agility and awareness in pass protection. He would have a chance to have an immediate impact while helping to improve a line that ranked near the bottom of the league in 2014.

    --Kevin Weidl, Scouts Inc.

    Predictions
    1. They're all in on Jameis Winston: Barring an off-field incident before the draft, the Bucs will take the Florida State quarterback at No. 1. After last year, the Bucs realize it's a quarterback-driven league and it's way past the time for them to get a franchise QB. Ownership has signed off on Winston, and the coaching staff is infatuated with him. He'll be the starter from day one.

    2. They'll draft a defensive end early: The pass rush is strong on the interior with Gerald McCoy, Clinton McDonald and Henry Melton. But it was weak on the outside last year. The Bucs released defensive end Michael Johnson, who had only four sacks last season. They want someone who can bring a more consistent rush from the outside.

    3. One player they like a lot is Florida State guard Josue Matias: The offensive line might have been the worst in the league last year, allowing 52 sacks and not being very good in the running game. Patrick Omameh isn't the long-term answer at right guard. Matias would be an instant upgrade and could be available in the third round.

    --Pat Yasinskas, NFL Nation Buccaneers reporter
     
  22. Hank Scorpio

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    I'd prefer taking an OL over a DE with our 2nd pick
     
  23. FSUnole1988

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    Agreed but if it worked out that way it would be great, Tomlinson won't be available in 3rd round IMO tho
     
  24. FSUnole1988

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    Bucs Turn to Trade to Acquire Johnson
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    After Tampa Bay's attempt to sign former Lions DE George Johnson as a restricted free agent ran into complications, the Bucs instead used a trade of late-round picks to acquire the pass-rusher.
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    The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have landed former Detroit Lions defensive end George Johnson, though not on the exact day they originally expected, and not exactly in the manner they originally intended.

    On Wednesday, the Buccaneers and Lions completed a trade that would send Johnson, who played in all 16 games and recorded six sacks in 2014, to Tampa at the cost of an exchange of 2015 draft picks. Tampa Bay sent the second of their two fifth-round picks, #168 overall, to Detroit and the Lions sent back the first of their two seventh-round picks, #231 overall.

    The Buccaneers originally acquired that fifth-round pick last October in a trade that sent linebacker Jonathan Casillas and a sixth-round pick to the New England Patriots. The Lions acquired pick #231 from the Baltimore Ravens as part of their trade for defensive tackle Haloti Ngata. The selection originally belonged to the Miami Dolphins.

    Though the Johnson trade was reported on Wednesday morning, it was not finalized between the two teams until later in the afternoon.

    That deal was struck after the Buccaneers' original attempt to sign Johnson away from the Lions as a restricted free agent ran into complications. Tampa Bay signed the fourth-year veteran to an offer sheet on Tuesday, April 7, giving the Lions five business days to either match the offer or let Johnson join the Buccaneers. The tender offer the Lions had extended to Johnson before free agency allowed them to match any offer made by another team but did not give them the right to any draft-pick compensation if they chose not to match.

    That five-day period made Monday, April 13 the deadline for the Lions' decision. However, Detroit challenged a clause in the Buccaneers' offer to Johnson, which sent the matter to an arbitrator. It is unclear whether the matter would have ultimately held up the process – beyond the 10-day arbitration period – but the two teams erased the uncertainty by agreeing to a trade instead.

    Johnson will join the Buccaneers on the terms of the three of the three-year contract offer he signed last week. Technically, Tampa Bay rescinded that offer and Detroit then signed him to the same deal before trading Johnson, and that contract, to the Buccaneers.

    This actually marks Johnson's return to the team; he began his NFL career as an undrafted free agent with Tampa Bay in 2010. He spent most of his rookie season and the first month of the 2011 campaign on the Bucs' practice squad before getting a promotion to the active roster and appearing in four games. He made the team again in 2012 but was released in November and picked up by the Minnesota Vikings, playing in a total of seven games between the two teams.

    READ: 5 THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT GEORGE JOHNSON

    The 6-4, 265-pound Johnson didn't appear in a game in 2013 and was released by Minnesota in November. However, he signed with the Lions last spring and proceeded to have a breakout season. His contributions to the NFL's second-ranked defense included 29 tackles, one pass defensed, one fumble recovery and the aforementioned half-dozen sacks. The Buccaneers are hoping that Johnson can contribute to a pass-rush that produced 36 QB takedowns last season.

    The Bucs will still head into this year's draft with a total of eight picks. In addition to the pick acquired from Detroit in Wednesday's trade, the team also has its own picks in the first three rounds and Round Seven (#1, #34, #65 and #218), the St. Louis Rams' picks in Rounds Four and Six (#99 and #184) and the Ravens' pick in Round Five (#162).
     
  25. Sean Connery

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    So what should I expect from George Johnson? I'm expecting very little
     
  26. FSUnole1988

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    nothing worse than what our production has been, at a much cheaper cost. As the 3rd DE in Detroit last year he had 6 sacks. that is with Suh and Fairley inside, but McCoy and Melton may be just as good a tandem.
     
  27. FSUnole1988

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    Also shout out to the mock draft guy so far on TMB. would love for our 1st 4 picks to go down that way
     
  28. G.O.A.T.

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    George johnson might be okay. Literally did nothing before last year. The way we handled his signing/trade was amateur hour type shit. I get wanting to get it settled before the draft but he's not good enough to really alter your draft plans and you can find quality players in the 5th.

    I don't think we are dumb enough to not go winston at one but I'm expecting a head scratcher similar to sims last year in either the second or third. Hope I'm wrong and we go OL in rounds 2 and 3.
     
  29. FSUnole1988

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    still annoyed. could have had Terrence Brooks or Trai Turner at that pick.
     
  30. bucs

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    We definitely need a DE in either round 2 or 3.
     
  31. fsuNizz

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    is my Jameis jersey ready for purchase yet?

    Jameis for Super Bowl MVP
     
  32. G.O.A.T.

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    I'd rather roll with johnson and smith this year and get a top pass rusher next year. Not a huge fan of the options that should be available and would rather protect Jameis. We could get two starters in rds 2 and 3 at oline. Don't think that would be the case with d end.
     
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  33. FSUnole1988

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    Agreed. Unless an elite DE prospect falls into the 2nd round like a Dupree or Beasley, which I don't think we will see. Draft OL in the 2nd and 3rd and get value int the 4th or 5th with a Corey Crawford, Za'Darius Smith or Trey Flowers
     
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  34. fsuNizz

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    draft Rashad Greene
     
  35. Hank Scorpio

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    Where's he projected to go? We don't really need a WR. Louis Murphy proved to be a good #3 after we picked him up in free agency last year
     
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  36. FSUnole1988

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    late 2nd to 3rd. He would be an upgrade to Murphy but Murphy played well enough that our needs at OL and DE should take priority.
     
  37. Sean Connery

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    VJax and Evans are far and away better than anything Jameis has every had and WR is one of the few positions that aren't a need. I'd much rather draft OL so Jameis' career lasts longer than 2 years. OL are never the sexy pick but they're sure as hell some of, if not the most crucial.
     
  38. FSUnole1988

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    Hard to say Evans is far and away better than KB, they basically had identical rookie seasons, but your point is otherwise valid.
     
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  39. Sean Connery

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    Evans: 122 targets, 68 receptions, 1051 yards, 12 TDs

    Benjamin: 145 targets, 73 catches, 1008 yards, 9 TDs

    Also Cam Newton is exponentially better than what Tampa had a QB this year and that's not saying much. Not saying that I don't like KB but Evans was #2 on the team in targets and still outdid KB in everything. I think KB will be a good WR, he just needs to learn the nuances of the game.
     
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  40. bucs

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    Well we could be surprised and have someone like Erving, Peat, or Collins fall to us and then the decision is a no-brainer. Ideally there will be a solid DE prospect waiting for us in the 3rd (Edwards maybe?). Protecting Jameis has to be our #1 priority but we also can't neglect our biggest defensive need, especially after not signing a single defensive player in the 2014 draft.
     
  41. fsuNizz

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    I want Rashad in the slot with Evans and Jackson on the outside.
     
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  42. Sean Connery

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    I get that, but getting a competent OL is so much more important than a slot receiver at this point, imo. OL is a dire need while Greene would be pure luxury
     
  43. swiz

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    Don't need Greene
     
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  44. fsuNizz

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    Im just being selfish. I want OL and the best ones to protect my savior Jameis.
     
  45. FSUnole1988

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    KB was the number 1 target with no compliment like VJax, your right though splitting hairs really I don't think either team is upset with their picks.

    Supposedly he is like the most likely a 1st round no one is talking about, doubt he'll be there in the 3rd. That being said I want a more threat as an edge rusher than Edwards if possible.
     
  46. bucs

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    Kiper has him in the early 3rd as of today
     
  47. bucs

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  48. bucs

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    also go lightning :dennard:
     
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  49. fsuNizz

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    Agent doing agent things

    Make your commission fam
     
  50. NoleNBlue

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    Depends on if we talking 280 Edwards or 3hundo Edwards. 300 Edwards: first round talent. 280 Edwards: UDFA.