The Bucs Thread: A Very Dumb Football Team

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  1. Hank Scorpio

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    New mock from pewterreport...

    Rd1 - OJ Howard - TE, Alabama
    Rd2 - Budda Baker - FS, Washington
    Rd3 - Kareem Hunt - RB, Toledo
    Rd4 - Josh Reynolds - WR, Texas A&M
    Rd5 - Shelton Gibson - WR, West Virginia
    Rd6 - Javancy Jones - DE, Jackson St
    Rd7 - Freddie Stevenson - FB, FSU

    I like the first 2 picks and Josh Reynolds in the 4th, but I'd like us to take a pass rusher a lot earlier than rd 6. We should also take an OL every year.
     
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  2. LetItSoak

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    Baker is pretty small is my only concern with him but I like the first 3 picks overall. I'd grab an OL in rd 4 or 5 vs 2 WRs
     
  3. Hank Scorpio

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    Baker's small but fast AF. I like the Safety from UCONN too. It doesn't have to be Reynolds, but we need another outside receiver in this draft.
     
  4. Sean Connery

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    That mock makes our holes a lot more glaring than I previously thought.

    Agree that OL needs to be addressed and preferably within the first 3 rounds. I'm kind meh on Howard in the 1st. He's not a huge need so he better be damn good.
     
  5. Hank Scorpio

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    I see it differently. Our passing game went to complete shit when Brate got hurt those last few weeks, so having 2 pass catching TEs is a must imo. Plus Howard is a great blocker, which will improve our perimeter running game. If he's there, he's a take.
     
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  6. Sean Connery

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    Fair enough. Admittedly, I haven't seen much of Howard play, but I think OL needs to be invested in as much as possible. Getting a true LT and moving Smith to RT would be nice, plus a starting C or G to compliment Marpet.
     
  7. Hank Scorpio

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    Whether we agree or not, everything I've read makes it sound like Licht/Koetter are happy with our OL situation and would probably only draft one in a later round to build depth (unless it's addressed in FA). Sounds like pass catchers, pass rushers, and secondary will be our draft focus.
     
  8. Nizz

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    I like Josh Reynolds...but not sure if he's the right fit ?

    And fuck yea, Freddie!
     
  9. LetItSoak

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    I'm hoping we can address that in FA if possible
     
  10. Magneto

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    Could probably get him as a UDFA though.
     
  11. Hank Scorpio

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    Mike Evans just won play of the year on NFL Honors for a 15 yd one handed catch against the Falcons. It was a nice catch and all, but play of the year?


    Just sticking with the Bucs, this play was way better.
     
  12. Hank Scorpio

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    So Daniel Jeremiah on NFL.com just mocked Alvin Kamara to us at 19.

    While I don't agree with us taking a RB in the 1st, I can at least understand the rationale for taking Cook or Fournette if either fell to us. But Kamara? L O fucking L! Dude is too injury prone and undersized to be anything more than a committee RB. Late 2nd rd pick at best.

    Only slightly less laughable was Walterfootball mocking Christian McCaffery to us.
     
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  13. LetItSoak

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    Kamara is wildly illogical for so many reasons. While I don't want a rb in rd1 I'd at least understand the BPA logic for DC and LF. Kamara is not even close to that.
     
  14. NoleNBlue (Ret.)

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    I like OJ at 19, but we definitely need OL more than a hybrid FB in the late rounds. Should've just kept Vitale last year
     
  15. Sean Connery

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  16. LetItSoak

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    OJ is a really good blocker so I think he helps out the OL while not being part of it
     
  17. NoleNBlue (Ret.)

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    Still wish we kept Vitale :feelsbadman:
     
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  18. Hank Scorpio

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    Yeah, he's thorough and to the point. Unlike Scott Reynolds who can have some good content, but really belabors whatever point he's making.
     
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  19. Sean Connery

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    Agree and I think Sikkema does a great job at analyzing the little things. That Hargreaves article is a perfect example.

    He'll likely get a better job in the near future.
     
  20. Hank Scorpio

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    Yeah, SI, ESPN, or NFL.com will snatch him up in no time.
     
  21. LetItSoak

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    I forgot he existed until just now
     
  22. Hank Scorpio

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    All the Pewterreport writers did like a fantasy offseason GM article with FA signings and drafts. Of course Sikkema's was the best. Mark Cook's was awful. Scott Reynolds' was acceptable.
     
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  24. Nizz

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    Hi yes please
     
  25. Sean Connery

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    Sign DJax
    Draft OJ Howard
    ???
    Profit
     
  26. Hank Scorpio

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    After yesterday, I wouldn't be mad at Njoku either. Dude is a freak.
     
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  27. Mitch Cumstein

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    feeling better about the options.
     
  28. LetItSoak

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    I'd prefer Howard for the blocking prowess. We need help on the edge
     
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  29. Mitch Cumstein

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    agreed. He's now my top pick for the spot. And if he happens to catch the ball a few times per game, all good.
     
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  30. Hank Scorpio

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    Oh I agree completely. I was more referring to if Howard was off the board.
     
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  31. LetItSoak

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    Adding Jackson and Howard would make our offense incredibly dangerous. We also get Sweezy back which should bolster OL depth if nothing else.

    Rd1: Howard (unless Davis, Cook or Williams is available)
    Rd2: safety
    Rd3: SDE or OL
     
  32. bucs

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    wait 2 months ago OJ howard was a dumb pick because "we already have cameron brate"
     
  33. Mitch Cumstein

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    you probably shouldn't have made such dumb statements two months ago. jeesh
     
  34. Mitch Cumstein

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    but I think the issue was Brate catches the ball already and OL is a bigger need. People coming to terms that OJ is essentially an athletic lineman makes it not so dumb. of course that's just my vagina.
     
  35. Hank Scorpio

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    For whatever reason Koetter and Licht really like the OL we have. It's fine though, this year's OL class is bad. I'm glad we're not targeting one with an early pick this year for that reason. Hope we grab one in rd 3-5 for depth though
     
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  36. LetItSoak

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    Grab one in rd4 or 5 at the very least. If Pocic is there in the 3rd I'd love to snag him
     
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  37. NoleNBlue (Ret.)

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    Could also fucks with Bucky Hodges in a later round
     
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  38. Marlo

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    Report: Bucs Interested In Calias Campbell
    Posted By: Trevor SikkemaMarch 05, 2017
    A few days ago it was reported that the Tampa bay Buccaneers are taking a good, hard look at Washington wide receiver DeSean Jackson as a potential free agency signing. On Sunday, CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reported that the Bucs are also interested in Arizona Cardinals DE Calias Campbell.

    And the Buccaneers are inclined to keep pushing to get in the postseason. Cardinals defensive lineman Calais Campbell and Redskins receiver DeSean Jackson are just two of the players they are interested in.

    The interest isn’t unfamiliar, but it is interesting. When debating what to do with Tampa’s own 6-foot-7 defensive end William Gholston, who hits unrestricted free agency this Tuesday, some have cited Campbell’s success as a reason to keep Gholston due to them being the same size at the same position – Campbell is 6-foot-8.

    Campbell has played his entire nine-year career in Arizona. Campbell, like Gholston, has never recorded double digit sacks before, but his numbers in that category are much higher than Gholston’s.

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    Acquiring Campbell would likely mean that the team would not be bringing Gholston back, as the expectation is for Noah Spence to be the full-time starter on one end. That would mean paying Campbell and Gholston would not be ideal, especially since Campbell’s contract demand will be high.

    This could also just be general manager Jason Licht covering all his bases by staying open to bringing in any player he needs to should one of his guys test free agency or demand too much money.

    Whatever it is, we know the interest is there, and the more cases like this are brought to light, the more Bucs fans can be confident that this front office is going to do whatever it takes to get over the hump and into the playoffs.
     
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  39. Nizz

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    Are we thinking we let Gholston go?
     
  40. Nizz

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    I am really excited for Spence next year.
     
  41. Sterling A

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  42. FearMySpear

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    Seems like good value and I'm guessing from guaranteed money you can basically consider it a two year deal.
     
  43. Sterling A

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  44. Fuck this

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    DJax at 12 million is a weeeeee but pricey
     
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  45. Nizz

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    We got the money to spare though, right
     
  46. Hank Scorpio

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    Yes. Unless we go big in FA, we've got lots of cap space. Just gotta make sure we have enough to pay Evans next year.
     
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  47. Sterling A

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    would rather have Alshon Jeffrey than Djax :twocents:
     
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  48. LetItSoak

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    The former would be much more expensive wouldn't he?

    *This is the best estimate I could find: