Deshaun Watson to the Browns

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  1. wes tegg

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    Where did you see that? The footnote said he "might" be willing if the parties could agree to an unspecified confidentiality order. That motion is getting granted.
     
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  2. electronic

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    Proof will certainly be in the pudding. The civil process for sexual assault cases like this is pretty fucked up. It incentivizes making the case as painful as possible to the defendant to drive up the settlement value. Doing so could jeopardize the anonymity of the plaintiffs.

    Filing 20 Jane Doe lawsuits under seal wouldn’t mean shit to Deshaun in the near term, and he could wait them out for years before settling for peanuts.

    Coming out publicly will lead to certain harassment of them and their loved ones.
     
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  3. wes tegg

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    Yeah, I'm not playing Monday Morning QB to either of these lawyers. I think both are playing the hands they've been dealt.
     
  4. Gallant Knight

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    judge is a stone cold democreat who has been on the bench for a couple of years. i'm sure buzbee gave her $

    last two elections in harris county have basically been a sweep of judges with all republicans losing their seats. has led to a bunch of unqualified judges unfortunately.

    but i don't think there is really an argument on buzbee's side. the law is the law.
     
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  5. electronic

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    I assumed that Buzbee wasn’t lying about providing names if they could come to an agreement. I don’t know anything about Texas law, so you may be right about the ruling. It’s probably likely that Texas law blows ass on rape shield issues, and women will either be required to subject themselves to harassment after getting raped or dismiss their cases.

    Interested to see if Buzbee’s response is substantive or just banging the table.
     
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  6. electronic

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    I’ve never practiced in a state court in which this statement was actually true.
     
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  7. Gallant Knight

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    maybe i'm wrong but i think all of these women should have to put their names on their pleadings in civil cases. i know watson is famous but it's still a civil case.
     
  8. Gallant Knight

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    very true. but i think this baby judge will not want to get this decision overturned in this high profile case.
     
  9. Gallant Knight

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    lol i had a hearing with this judge at 7:45am on tuesday. she needs to chill out
     
  10. wes tegg

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    I'm torn. But, I don't find the "he knows who they are!" argument to be very compelling. If the 22nd accuser is lying, she shouldn't get the benefit of the 21 telling the truth.
     
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  11. electronic

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    Do you feel the same about minors?
     
  12. Gallant Knight

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    i just think that if you're going to file a civil suit the least you could do is tell the person who you are suing who you actually are.
     
  13. Gallant Knight

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    no
     
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  14. electronic

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    Why?
     
  15. Gallant Knight

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    because they're children
     
  16. Lawnole23

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    Agree. I understand the argument why they should not be identified but they're also the plaintiff in a civil lawsuit at some point you have to be identified. I don't find the well he assaulted her so he should know who she is argument to be very compelling.
     
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  17. electronic

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    Wait, minors are children?!?

    Why do you think minors should be protected from disclosure but not women who have been raped?
     
  18. wes tegg

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    For one, the minor can't bring the suit on his/her own. They're inherently an unwilling participant.
     
  19. electronic

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    I guess I’m more interested in the discussion of the harm, since kids are legally unwilling participants in everything, but we’re getting too far down the rabbit hole that I always do, so I’m just going to abandon this ship before this goes any further.
     
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  20. Gallant Knight

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    i think judge davis will try to figure out some compromise at the early hearing. i've been in front of her a few times and she basically never ever wants to sign an order.
     
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  21. Lawnole23

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    Appellate court can't overturn your order if you didn't issue one.
     
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  22. steamengine

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    One of my neighbors is a judge and is retiring and moving to Horseshoe Bay instead of running again because he knows he can’t win anymore.
     
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    i think i've only voted for like 3 republican candidates in my life and one was 6 months ago because the democrat judge was so horrifically unqualified. she won in a landslide.
     
  24. steamengine

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    I know some pretty big progressives who are also attornies who absolutely hate it. There are some great judges getting swept out of office.
     
  25. Gallant Knight

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    https://www.law.com/texaslawyer/202...on-discovery-motions/?slreturn=20210308162628

    https://www.chron.com/news/falkenbe...ment-in-Civil-District-Court-race-1716345.php

    After getting kicked out of the University of Texas law school for academic failure (Hall said the ouster was undeserved, but wouldn't elaborate), she earned a law degree from South Texas in 1995.

    But instead of practicing full-time, Hall became a Continental ticket agent and later, customer care manager for several years. Hall says she took the job for health insurance while starting her practice, but the Continental job was apparently her main gig, since she filed for unemployment after the airline fired her for poor job performance in 2003.

    In Hall's 13-year career, Harris County district clerk and federal Southern District records show Hall as attorney or mediator in 38 civil and family, criminal and federal cases, an average of three per year. By comparison, one of her opponents, Larry Hinojosa, has more than 1,000 civil cases as attorney or mediator in Harris County district courts over nearly 30 years.

    When asked why she believed she was qualified for the civil district bench, Hall listed simply experience, judicial demeanor and the fact that “I'm quite bright.”
     
  26. Gallant Knight

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    we had a motion for substitute service pending in front of her for 6 months. i eventually just told my associate to go up there on a date when she was hearing other motions and to approach the bench when they were over and tell her to rule on it
     
  27. TC

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    I feel like I’m at least 2L after reading the last page
     
  28. Lyrtch

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    this discussion reminds me that the supreme court shouldn't be made up of lawyers
     
  29. Tobias

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    seriously is that baylor guy deshaun watson why is he getting death threats
     
  30. Clown Baby

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    Wut
     
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  31. Lyrtch

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    lay people with legal staffers would make better decisions imo

    also less prone to the weird elite and overall lawyerly bent that can muddle things
     
  32. ashy larry

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    no lawyer mods either
     
  33. The Banks

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    Not being a lifetime appointment seems like a better solution.
     
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  34. Lyrtch

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    well if we're doing a whole re-write treating supreme court decisions like guidance and not like written in stone giving it outsized control over the other branches would be a good trend
     
  35. Clown Baby

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    So a jury? Are you familiar with how cases reach the Supreme Court?
     
  36. Lyrtch

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    this isn't a novel concept, aren't you a lawyer?
     
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  37. Tobias

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    just name a three person supreme court comprised of the three posters with the highest like totals. saves on not having to pay 6 other ones
     
  38. electronic

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    With you 100% with the above change.
     
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  39. Lyrtch

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    i agree with that fwiw, my posting specificity lags when i'm tired
     
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  40. Doc Louis

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    TMB's attorneys to watch under 40
     
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  41. Doc Louis

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    Writ of Certiorari?
     
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  42. wes tegg

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    Let’s let non-doctors make the first cut in surgeries while we’re at it...

    If anything, the problem with the Supreme Court is that the vast majority who have ended up on the court in recent decades have had zero experience practicing. Appoint more lawyers and fewer career academics/career jurists.
     
  43. Butthead

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    while we're just kind of spitballing, maybe two law schools shouldn't dominate the makeup of the court like they do
     
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    HERE COME THE IRISH! :blech:
     
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  45. The Banks

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    Who’s your pick to replace Breyer under that thought process?
     
  46. wes tegg

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    Or, shit, maybe not having two from the same fucking high school.
     
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  47. wes tegg

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    Rusty Hardin
     
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  48. hawk217

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    Oh good I thought I might be the only one who thought that opinion to be utterly ridiculous.
     
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  49. letan

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    so we gonna get a follow up to this or nah?
     
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  50. BUstang

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    Not really hard to figure out. The entire Lawyer thread and Big 12 thread know. The whole thing has been something else.
     
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