A Vieira Beautiful Future - Wild Dreams

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  1. WillySaliba

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    Looks like PEA is locked up for a few more years.
     
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  2. Wu

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    Nice job of them to sandwich the lay-off news between cup win and Auba extension
     
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  3. construxboy

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    That's Stewie's "Compliment Sandwich" from Family Guy
     
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  4. NineteenNine

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    If they laid off 55 people, how many fucking people work in the organization??
     
  5. AUShyGuy

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    Think Arseblog said it was about a 10% layoff
     
  6. NineteenNine

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    So, > 500. That does seem like it could use some trimming.
     
  7. WillySaliba

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    I hear this guy is pretty liquid.

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Gunners

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    Matt Law has ok info but always jumps the gun

    No idea if this Gabriel stuff is real. We have 7 CBs but few with any long term future
     
  9. pratyk

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    Not sure how accurate but I saw this floating around...

    Arsenal 1125 estimated employees. Liverpool has 850, Manchester United has 800, Tottenham has 560, Man City 550, Chelsea 800.
    Non football related staff:
    • Liverpool 675
    • United 549
    • Arsenal 547
    • Tottenham 317
    • Chelsea 283
    • City 239
    Before redunancies Arsenal employed almost 150 more than Tottenham, City and Chelsea. Coronavirus or not Arsenal would be looking for reduction either.
     
  10. Gunners

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    Issue seems to be that it’s the scouting department, recruitment policy almost completely dictated by agents
     
  11. Chipper>Jeter

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    Stan has a pretty well established track record as an owner
     
  12. Jorts

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    That narrative is weak. We’re going to a more analytics based structure & getting away from an old man sitting in the stands. So, progress
     
  13. WillySaliba

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    I don’t think the narrative is weak at all. However, that said if they mix in the Tierney, Martinelli and Pepes I’m fine with the approach. I also realize we won’t sign a Pepe every summer window.
     
  14. Jorts

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    I disagree. It’s lazy Click-bait journalism & naive to believe we are scouting & recruiting based solely on agent friendships. Or even more outlandish... who the agents tell us to buy.
     
  15. Jorts

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    All successful people & companies leverage their relationships to succeed. Raul & Co’s relationships are different that Wenger & his old guard. This realignment was always going to happen.
     
  16. Jorts

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  17. WillySaliba

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    Not sure what you are arguing but carry on.
     
  18. AUShyGuy

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    Where’s that from?

    Think the problem with the recruiting changes is that the agent narrative exists (weak or not), the club knows it exists, and yet they do little to change that narrative. (Assuming they care)

    still the biggest issue to me is the players being pissed about layoffs after their pay cut
     
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  19. zeberdee

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    let’s not pretend there isn’t evidence to the agent narrative. it can be both things.
     
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  20. meadow

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    Hard to argue there is no agent narrative looking at most recent transactions/speculated transactions.

     
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  21. Wu

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    (googles this Kia person)

    oh so definitely on the up-and-up and not shady at all
     
  22. False9

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    I’m going to be sad when Ainsley Maitland-Niles leaves, as I have been a believer in his ability for a long time. Hope he will bring a good transfer fee £?
     
  23. WillySaliba

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    He should for his skill set. He certainly brings more value than Iwobi to the table. It’s just a matter on what that level of team will spend with the current environment and our ability to shop him. I’m pretty sure we’ll fuck it up.
     
  24. zeberdee

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    I think selling him is a mistake but once Soares was signed I think it was inevitable.
     
  25. Wu

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    Was it AMN that supposedly had a falling out with Arteta over effort in training or something along those lines?
     
  26. AUShyGuy

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    I like his athleticism but I think we’ve got some recency bias. How many good games has he had?
     
  27. zeberdee

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    I don’t think he’s destined to be a star for the club but he’s a valuable squad player. if it was a regular year and we got a big english premium like we did Iwobi I wouldn’t mind.

    I think there’s a chance he could become a solid regular under Arteta at best and a solid backup at multiple positions at worst. on what are probably very reasonable wages I think that’s probably worth more than what he will bring back.
     
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  28. WillySaliba

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    Clive from AV stated that he was late a few times. From what I understand he always worked hard, just got pissed, changed his agent to one that’s specialty is getting players out of a club.

    With the garbage that we put out this season I can empathize with the guy being pissed he’s not getting minutes.
     
  29. Wu

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    Agreed

    still think he has time to grow professionally and personally
     
  30. meadow

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    Another area where the agent issue, if it exists, hurts. I’d much rather have AMN than Soares
     
  31. elfrid

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    shouldn’t really come as a surprise

     
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  32. WillySaliba

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  33. Jean-Ralphio

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    Willian announced
     
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  34. AUShyGuy

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    Arteta wanted him, works for me. Gonna end up being the English Seleção by the end of the summer
     
  35. tne

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    o/u 2 years before Barca offers us 25m for Arteta
     
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  36. Jorts

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    Vieira, Henry, Santi or Freddie will be ready by then
     
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  37. Wu

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    hopefully they put in an exorbitant desperation bid for Hector
     
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  38. tne

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    they have no money

    Dembele-Hector swap incoming
     
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  39. Wu

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    Ah ya hate to see it

    I’ll take that deal
     
  40. Jorts

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    Özil to Juve chatter made me hard... sadly nobody noticed
     
  41. tne

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    CR7 is the only one with enough pull to get Ozil out of Arsenal
     
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  42. Jorts

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    He’s going to PSG
     
  43. WillySaliba

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    Perfect fit.
     
  44. eagle19

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    Skeptical but also excited about signing a young* Willian. Scrolling through Willian’s twitter signing post and see his wife (wow he married a much older woman, good for him I guess). ::Goes to check his age, 32?!?!:: This whole time I thought he was 25/26 max.
     
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  45. tne

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    I will attempt to speak this into existence because he is incredibly perfect and my dream signing

     
  46. WillySaliba

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    Agreed, return of the true tens starts here.
     
  47. meadow

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    Thoroughly confused as to what’s going on.
     
  48. NineteenNine

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    Came here to post this. WTF??
     
  49. AUShyGuy

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    Best guess, Kronkes lawyer found some shady shit regarding the Pepe deal.

    don’t hate it though

    edit: I should have kept reading my Twitter feed

     
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  50. zeberdee

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    good
     
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