The Healthy Living Thread

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  1. bingbing

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    Yes...as a bi-product to a prescription. Do you leave the doctor's office with a proper workout regime or diet plan spelled out for you? Nope. You are way into the wrong damn lane if you think the average American walks out of the doctor's office with anything other than prescriptions as the #1 cure. I called you out for jumping into this thread and being clueless. Respectfully sit back and learn and gain life long knowledge, or keep trolling. Jumping in at this point with a "doctor knows best" take...GTFO.
     
  2. Nug

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    bingbing quit being a meathead. For some people prescriptions are required to maintain a healthy lifestyle--some people also don't have the time/mentality/drive/etc. to work 8-9 hours/day and still find time to consistently exercise and eat right (and this is saying nothing of genetics and stuff beyond your control regardless of exercise/eating). Others prioritize different things enough/fortunate with genetics/have more free time than others/etc. to stay healthy without the need of prescriptions. Neither side is "correct," it's all specific to the individual. You can disagree and state your point without being a douche about it.
     
  3. devine

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    I literally had a doctor tell me to lose weight once and to get a better diet. Obviously writing a 55 year old overweight patient a script for high blood pressure meds is way different. It’s hard for someone at that point to change their entire lifestyle, so why wouldn’t they do what they can to help them?
     
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  4. devine

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    And if you think I would troll in a thread about people living a healthier lifestyle and trying to better themselves, you’re crazy. You’re the one that berated me for trying to better myself and told me to stop posting about it
     
  5. bingbing

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    Umm...yeah...I was 28 when they put me on Lisinopril...not quite 55. Within six months of being back home I never took it again. I have doctors checkup's still to this day where they ask me if i'm still on it and I tell them I fixed it through my diet and they just duck their head and move on.
     
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  6. bingbing

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    No, you just lack knowledge and haven't read through the thread, and trolled by calling me a drunk...so now you are getting called out for quoting doctors. Straight up...when I was 35 it was as simple as running my ass off, lifting, calories in..out, etc. At 38 that stopped working. Still the same regime and eating...not working. I've had to cut out as much bread and dairy as possible. Props to the Whole30 crowd. I've learned a lot from it, but at 38 I am looking for something I know I won't feel like is something I can honestly tell myself I can do for years to come.
     
  7. bingbing

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    I'm not attacking or discouraging people to get ITT. People that fall into the "9-5" health/prescription trap are innocent victims. The "9-5" leads to an unhealthy lifestyle. The guys in the weightlifting thread that work at a desk and are Hulk's, especially at my age... BrickTamland are rare. The Walt Disney guys that are beast runners are freaks. I'm telling devine to not be %100 percent convinced of being on any certain med the rest of his life. Take a long look at what bad carbs and dairy are going to your body. At 35 it was calories in/out. It doesn't work three years later. Now it's complicated...a macro diet with intermittent fasting and my carb source being mostly from vegetables. One weekend of an Anniversary dinner and garbage Pizza was a 9 lb gain and shits for days.

    All i'm saying is get ahead of the game and don't rely on a younger metabolism. The yearly adjustment you have to make is intense.

    This isn't the "Except drugs as a way of life and maybe eat some veggies" thread.
     
  8. buy_dont_lease

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    My doctor ordered a chest X-ray when I came back to see him for my annual check up a year later 40 pounds lighter because he was afraid I was experiencing heart failure. I told him I only did what he recommended I do and lose weight. His response? “Yeah, well nobody actually does.”

    Point being, docs prescribe those kinds of meds because if they didn’t, lots of their patients would croak. Guys like you and me are the exception to the rule these days.
     
  9. bingbing

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    Right, the problem is that the doctors will never tell you what to eat that will keep you from coming back. The insurance companies would freak out. The system is broken. You should be sent to a REAL nutritionist, but LOL no they can't get in on this money....so people will keep eating processed foods and coming right back to the insurance companies...and the processed food industry keeps on churning...endless cycle.

    Yes...many people are too far gone with their health and need medicine...but not the huge majority of us that are in Murrica getting pumped full of it. And we wonder why there is an opioid epidemic....hmmmm.
     
  10. BrickTamland

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    I agree with the personal responsibility part of your argument, but it’s not as though doctors get commissions for all of your ailments. I’m sure they’d rather see twenty health conscious patients in a session than twenty “I give up” obese patients with laundry lists of allergies and comorbidities.
     
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  11. BrickTamland

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    Also, I’m no hulk, though I appreciate the mention. 36yr old, 5’11” and 200lbs (I’ll drop back down to 180lbs for summer.) Like you, I just said that in my thirties I was tired of being tired, sick of being unhealthy, and put a big focus on diet and strength training.
     
  12. a.tramp

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    Guys, a lot of confusion itt will be cleared up by realizing that doctors, trainers and dieticians are for the most part all different things. And for the most part there may be some overlap but if there is a lot of overlap then you are speaking to the rare person that knows and specializes in everything or more than likely someone who is not very specialized in any of them.
     
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  13. Celemo

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    Agreed. Last Year when my doctor diagnosed me w. Diabetes he told me what I needed to do. My dietician taught me how to do it and my trainer would sync up my dietary needs to his workouts
     
  14. a.tramp

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    Exactly, and if you did not seek out the help of the dietician and/or trainer and then returned to your doctor with the same or worse conditions, his toolbag has pills in it.
    Keep up the good work on your lifestyle changes, the beer part is hard.
     
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  15. Thoros of Beer

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    drink less beer, drink more tequila
     
  16. ohbluefan

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    Yeah I’m down 10 lbs already this year by half ass watching what I eat, limiting snacks, and sugar.

    I’m 40, 6’, and 205. I’d like you all to try the unsweet coffee, unsweet tea, water, vegetarian, limit snacks diet.

    Edit: and exercise I forgot about running a couple of miles everyday doing some push ups and sit ups.
     
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  17. allothersnsused

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    I went to the gym at lunch today. I joined a gym specifically because there was one location near my house and one near my work. Always seemed like too much of a hassle to pack a bag and go during the day.

    Spoiler alert: It's not.

    Also official weight was down 12 pounds following Whole 30. Pretty significant from 182 to 170.
     
  18. The Fuck Lion

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    Did you get your workout in and shower, etc?
     
  19. allothersnsused

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    Got my workout in easily don't sweat much when I lift so I didn't shower, just washed my face and reapplied deodorant. All told, left work at 11:45 and got back by 1, including grabbing lunch on the way back which probably took a good 20 minutes.

    Only issue was I forgot my gym locker so I had to carry my wallet and keys with me and was still stressing about my bag and clothes as if anyone would want to steal them.
     
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  20. Baseballman86

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    How are our whole30 guys doing? Anybody started feeling the magic yet?
     
  21. Thoros of Beer

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    I feel pretty great. No cravings, sleeping good, lots of energy, huge dick
     
  22. TLAU

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    solid week last week of eating. one day a weekend I'm allowing myself to say fuckit and go to a crawfish boil and drink a half dozen beers. rest of the week is either chicken/rice, turkey spaghetti, salad w/ fish or chicken/steak and avocado & greek yogurt mashed potatoes

    fuck waiting til april to get that ab game goin
     
  23. Celemo

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    Had a Dr. Appointment today, my bad cholesterol is way down, my good cholesterol is way up. My liver and kidney function #’s have improved. My sugar levels are normal. W30 is the fucking truth yo
     
  24. Doc Louis

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    For people too busy for whole30, anyone got any recs on meal delivery companies?
     
  25. THEBLUERAIDER

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    I believe one of them, maybe Blue Apron, has partnered with Whole 30 to provide compliant meals. May not answer your question though.
     
  26. Drew63

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    1. Buy a Vitamix
    2. Put tons of kale and greens in a smoothie in the morning
     
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  28. mal630

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    Seems like a good idea. I'd be interested to find out what tortillas you go with. There are some lower carb/calories ones out there.
     
  29. toddzo

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    I finished up my w30 last week and feel pretty good about it.

    Some of the restrictions are flat out stupid though. The no smoothie thing is dumb (I made them anyway). You can’t tell me having 2 cups of kale, a banana and green apple in the morning is less healthy than not having it at all. There’s no chance I would have eaten all that in their regular form.

    Also, there is a brand called siete that makes grain -free chips and tortillas. They say it’s not w30 approved because it falls under the “swypo” category but fuck em, def worth getting some maybe once or twice during your w30.
     
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  30. Celemo

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    the Siete Lime Tortilla chips are great. Ate the shit out of them when I did W30
     
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  31. Thoros of Beer

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    it sounds like you missed the point, but glad it worked for you
     
  32. toddzo

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    What point did I miss?
     
  33. buy_dont_lease

    buy_dont_lease Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
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    The first rule of Whole 30 is that you do not question Whole 30.
     
  34. Thoros of Beer

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    you'd have to point me to the part where they said that having a smoothie is less healthy than not having it at all. it's just not preferred. also, most people's smoothies are loaded with fruit sugar. the point is to break the sweet cycle. the same with junk foods/baked goods and their imitations, people use them as a crutch and never really confront their dependency.

    typically, the only people that find whole30's restrictions stupid are those that use it as a weight loss tool

    plus, it's only 30 days. you can go without chips for 30 days.
     
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  35. WillySaliba

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    It amazes me how many people rip Whole30, who did Whole30 but didn't read the book to get the theory. I mean I get it if you hate it, dont do Whole30 and rip it.
     
  36. Thoros of Beer

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    i end whole30 this saturday and would guess i've lost about 10-15 pounds of bad weight. my energy levels are off the charts and a i sleep like a rock. typically wake up without my alarm at 5:30 with no fogginess whatsoever. would recommend.

    also, it's crazy how sugar is in EVERYTHING. Pederson's whole30 meats are delicious.
     
  37. HOOSINSC

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    i do really well on my own with my diet and i don't really have any Whole30 takes. it doesn't seem like something i need to try, and that's okay.
     
  38. Nug

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    I choose to not worship false idols
     
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  39. Nug

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    This x69
     
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  40. Thoros of Beer

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    if you don't have cravings, suspected food allergies, chronic illness, etc. then you probably don't need to do whole30
     
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  41. WillySaliba

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    And I am completely cool with that. I did it because I had an injury and couldn't work out for a long time. It was a jump start that helped me and I wasn't mad at the rules.
     
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  42. Arkadin

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    The rules are retarded and arbitrary but so are tons of other shit that work for people so whatever
     
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  43. toddzo

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  44. Nug

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    I'm just fucking around, but if it helps create good habits, go for it. My 'issue' (if you would even call it that) with w30 is that is doesn't seem to instill good long-term practices and my gut-feeling would be that most individuals that followed w30 are back to square one by day 50 or whatever. Of course, I'm sure there are hundreds of exceptions to my take and it's been used, like you said, to jump start good habits.
     
  45. Thoros of Beer

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    i don't disagree. if you don't have sensitivities to legumes or certain grains they should definitely be used in your diet. i did figure out that i'm sensitive to some varieties of beans, but not others. it's really all about what your motivation is when doing the diet.

    it is a good starter elimination diet for people who can't figure out what is causing their inflammation, swelling, gas, etc.
     
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  46. Thoros of Beer

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    yeah, i'm sure a lot of people will go right back. the idea is to slowly incorporate foods to see how they affect you. for me personally, i have no interest in returning to certain foods because i feel great. i am looking forward to a nice cold beer though.
     
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  47. a.tramp

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    This is me. I hardly ever eat dairy anymore since doing W30. Grains are pretty limited now with the exception of steel cut oats, those are daily. But, all the beer.

    I fell great, sleep well, wake up rested, have less stomach/bottom issues. All good things.
     
  48. TLAU

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    The SWYCO rule I read about when I saw a recipe for pizza crust substitute or something not being “completely W30. Fuck it still better than holding hands
     
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  49. Celemo

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    the main reason I did W30 was diabetes related....it helped me undo about 9-10 months of poor health decisions in 30 days. Is it the end all be all? No...but it's what I needed and I'm happy with the results
     
  50. bingbing

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    Big fan of dropping grains and dairy. My wife did a program through Arbonne that was pretty similar to W30 and it helped us through the denial of just how bad dairy was for you.
     
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