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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Fuzzy Zoeller, Sep 24, 2019.
This is the thread where impeachment happens.
Also, we need a Peach Bowl icon.
Nancy Pelosi has this thread on ignore.
Nothing will come of this
Can we merge this thread and the Do You Trust Donald Trump thread?
what did i miss
now wait just a damn minute rondell
they’re removing Taques for unmodding you
you’re fake news!
I may be ignorant bc I don't follow politics closely, but it would take a 2/3 majority in the Senate to impeach and Republican had majority so there is little chance it happens right?
Unless the Republican candidates sense blood and what to remove him for running again with a better candiate, but that still feels like an extreme reach?
impeachment is done in the house of representatives. removal is done in the Senate and has little to no chance of succeeding in that body.
Impeachment is not removal from office. Bill Clinton was impeached.
Impeachment is the whole process I thought. House brings it up and the Senate tries it.
I guess impeachment usually leads to resignation?
Literally no. Impeachment is what the House does. Conviction is what the senate does. Bill Clinton was impeached. He wasn’t convicted.
Remember when you said you may be ignorant?
If it falls along party lines, impeachment is likely and removal unlikely. But we don't know what the process of investigation will ultimately uncover, or how it will affect how Reps/Sens vote.
Let’s get this out the way right now. Impeachment =/= kicking him out of office. Impeachment is part of that process. He’ll be impeached but he won’t be kicked out of office.
I will always love this gif
im·peach | \ im-ˈpēch \
impeached; impeaching; impeaches
Definition of impeach
1: to charge with a crime or misdemeanor
specifically: to charge (a public official) before a competent tribunal with misconduct in office
So impeachement likely and guilty unlikely at the trial of impeachement
In on 1
I get it, but what is the endgame for this process is they know he will not be convicted.
how is this a serious question
Very legal and very cool!
1. No end game is necessary. If the president has committed impeachable offenses it is the duty of the House to impeach him. The fact that the Senate will abdicate their duty is not a valid reason for the House to abdicate theirs.
2. An impeachment investigation has some teeth to it, and there's no telling what facts will be uncovered during the investigation and trial process.
3. Getting Senate Republicans on record voting against conviction despite all evidence has political value.
Number 1 is most valuable to me but the other two also matter.
Showing America that there is at least one party that will stand up for the rule of law? Giving Democratic Senate candidates something to point to when they argue to their constituents that their Republican senators are failing them in favor of representing monies interests? Showing the world that there’s at least some group of Americans that recognizes what the president is doing is criminal and that they shouldn’t cooperate with his criminal requests?
get those fucks on the record
nixon probably coulda survived watergate but during the impeachment process one of his lackeys let slip about the tapes and that caused things to spiral for the dick man
nothing will come of this other than “see we tried!!!”
They don’t really know he won’t be convicted. Impeachment is the vehicle for building the case.
Thanks, that was main question basically. This gives more power into his affairs right?
Nobody knows how this will play out. Senators were afraid of McCarthy until they weren't. Republicans backed Nixon until they didn't. If during the course of the investigation Republicans decide that Trump isn't useful to their agenda anymore, they may withdraw their support for him.
Very dumb question that I was definitely not going to ask you privately via text lol
Does this prevent him from running in 2020? If not, it’s only gonna fire up his base.