I have cycled through my emotions and am back to thinking the ACC deal is actually a blessing because the entire CFB model is going to be burned down in the next 5-10 years anyway, so who knows what kind of money will even be available in 2030 or later.
Any school stuck in the acc by 2036 is 100% finished competing at the national level in any sport. It is the single worst media deal in history.
Seriously. We’ve done enough. Top 10 appearances since FSU joined the ACC FSU - 253 (3 National Titles) Clemson - 136 (2 National Titles) VT - 31 UM - 30 UNC - 26 GT - 18 UL - 10 UVA - 9 BC - 7 NC State - 2 Wake - 2 Duke - 0 Pitt - 0 Cuse - 0
tbh before that post I was completely unaware that fsu had been far and away the best program since joining the league
I wish VT got to count beating up on Wake Forest and Duke in the 90s and early 2000s with those stats. The conference has been garbage in football for its entire existence. Beating up on them doesn’t make you good.
Idk, seems like FSU and Clemson winning 5 national titles and playing for an additional 4 is good. The problem is that all the other schools let known criminal john swofford hoodwink them to benefit his scumbag son. Then they let themselves get scammed by the GOR extension. The insanely corrupt tobacco road leadership has doomed every program in the ACC but some schools are still too dumb to see it.
Is this actually a thing, I'd genuinely never heard of it until your numerous posts in recent days and I feel like if it had legs I would've heard NCSU fans screaming about it from the mountain tops for years now. It's giving me strong GOP boogey man vibes.
Swofford's son was an execuctive at failing raycom sports, the exclusive beneficiary of acquiring the ACCs third tier rights for peanuts. The same son was at BC's athletic department when they got a deeply undeserved ACC invite. Then the ACC presidents got hoodwinked again with fraudulent data and revenue projections for the ACC network.
Perhaps if they could have played Duke and WF instead of Temple and Rutgers they could have won a terrible Big East more than 3 times in 13 years.
I think there’s plenty of nepotism with swoff, and Duke/UNC 100% ran the ACC for years so it’s an easy jump to make. I think the league adding who they added, and not adding say Texas when they had a chance, is really the doom. When the ACC signed the GOR it was lauded for its stability- hindsight is 20/20 and a shorter deal would have been preferable but also likely would have meant the league is dead as we speak.
I'm not dismissing the shit GOR or poor decisions fwiw, the whole criminal organization talk is where it gets silly for me, all semantics though I suppose
Its dead as we speak now. Even if fsu is forced to pay 300m on the gor release, espn simply activates the composition clause to massively reduce payments to the rest of the conference going forward, collapsing the conference anyway
$300m is not even close to the number and I don’t even know what a composition clause is or why ESPN would have any incentive to help kill the ACC. They’ve got 4-5 years at least right now.
Composition clause is so ESPN can renegotiate the money it pays out to the conference if the conference loses its biggest draw or two. If FSU or FSU and Clemson were to leave the ACC, ESPN brings a new lower number to the table. It doesnt kill off the ACC in the traditional sense. It just makes it even more non competitive with any other conference. So their incentive should be obvious. It saves them money.
Correct. The acc signed a contract that doesnt let them negotiate for more money but allows espn to give them less if the composition of the conference changes. The acc media deal will be studied in contracts classes in the future about what can happen if you let a known criminal be a fiduciary
obviously I would prefer not to have Californian schools in the conference but it would bring: -everything one step closer to football leaving the NCAA which is the only end result that's positive -TMB FSU reactions to read
This is probably the only opportunity we will get to challenge the Big 10 as the nation’s premier conference for water polo
Last time we played anything at Stanford, our whole baseball team almost died in a catastrophic accident. Seriously the bus driver had a fatal heart attack behind the wheel and the 3rd base coach had to take over the bus on the highway.
We promise to bring mediocrity to grid iron and basketball court, but will dominate in non revenue Olympic sports