**The New ACC Thread: True Love Only ITT**

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  1. JPWahoo

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    this targeted criticism is a little much, friend
     
  2. clemsontyger04

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    Id be ok with the couch burning, but rifle? Ya lost me devine
     
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  3. ned's head

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    Big day for hafley's image in the head household. He said take your ignorant ass elsewhere

     
  4. WC

    WC Bad Company, ‘til the day I die.
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    Must be nice to work at a private school in a lib city and state.

    also have to assume the one player wasn’t a contributor. I can’t imagine any coach is willing to boot the starting LT or QB over it.
     
  5. WC

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  6. Shiggityshwo

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    always thought your block lettering logo was a lot better than these wolf clip art looking things tbh
     
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  7. skiedfrillet

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    poor in money, but rich in honored traditions and rivalries

    so who's really poor, huh?
     
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  8. Dan Kendra

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    Bud seemed to think we’re lagging far behind vax wise. Even said we had to call in Dr. Myron Rolle to try and talk some sense to these ignoramuses.

    Forfeiting to UMass and rightfully being the laughingstock of the country would probably be rock bottom of all the garbage we’ve seen here. Would also tank any momentum Norvell had going forward and most likely his tenure here.

    I would start cutting a guy every day until others fall in line or we hit the threshold. There is enough dead weight anyway.

    Bama, Clemson etc will hit the threshold because you know they actually want to win and won’t voluntarily put themselves at a disadvantage.
     
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  9. Saul Shabazz

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    the idea that bud elliot knows accurate numbers regarding each schools vax rate makes me chuckle
     
  10. Saul Shabazz

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    I believe him though
     
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  11. Tobias

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    clemson has a really low vax rate
     
  12. WC

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    The Block S is fine, but it’s too boring and similar to Stanford and Sparty. The Tuffy series is much much better iyam.
     
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  13. Dan Kendra

    Dan Kendra Fan Of: FSU, Leg Presses, Chemistry

    Yeah consider there source and all but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s right on this one. Seems on brand for us unfortunately.
     
  14. Tobias

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    i like the block S a lot. it just reminds of being a kid

    you should have a helmet with the S that every elementary school kid learned to draw too
     
  15. Nizz

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  16. Shiggityshwo

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    that's definitely the issue imo, in a vacuum I like it better though
     
  17. HOOSINSC

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  18. Shiggityshwo

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    I like the delayed reaction from hat guy, took him a solid 15 seconds or so to process
     
  19. Gritty Badger

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    Big East division would be so much nostalgia and I'm here for that
     
  20. allothersnsused

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    Makes more sense to me than this, and the geography still gets pretty well preserved other than Miami. But if Miami made it work for the Big East, I don't think that's a huge hurdle.
     
  21. JPWahoo

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    I refuse to be in the Big East division and I will use my immense power to prevent it
     
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  22. Shiggityshwo

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    I'm sorry but you and Virginia T are attached at the hip and you will like it
     
  23. JPWahoo

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    noooo. you keep them in the big east where they belong and we're each other's natural cross division rivals
     
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  24. Shiggityshwo

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    geography notwithstanding, switching Miami with UVA really does make the most sense
     
  25. killerwvu

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  26. Shiggityshwo

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    hey there partner
     
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  27. WC

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    Look at these fucking ass chins on the Deacs

     
  28. HOOSINSC

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    a habsburg jaw is sign of inbreeding. inbred ass deacs
     
  29. WC

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    baptists smh
     
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  30. Tobias

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    the more i think about it, the more i think swofford not even trying to leverage covid scheduling to force ND to join for good is going to sink the conference long term
     
  31. ned's head

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    We should just merge our best 8 with the big 10 and make our own little powerhouse
     
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  32. WC

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    “Sink it” feels a little overblown. Where are 15 schools going to go? Or even 4 or 5? The goal after 2010 or so was always to not be the first one to blow up because 4 super conferences always seemed like the eventual reality, and we cleared that hurdle.
     
  33. Nizz

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    is that Bud in front of him?

    EDIT: BC alum vid
     
  34. Nizz

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    WELCOME, FREN
     
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  35. Nizz

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    oh shit this means we get devine
     
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  36. lazy bum

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    Shocking the ACC was caught flat footed on Texas and Oklahoma moves.
     
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  37. WC

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    an espn guy mentioned we were in the process of establishing a new commissioner when all this started. Kind of put us at a disadvantage.
     
  38. WC

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    Here’s an Athletic article with some of the changes Phillips has made that has coaches and ADs confident he can handle the job.

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — So now would be a good time to talk about the new guy, and just how he will bolster his conference’s profile through its biggest moneymaker, an emphasis that has been lacking around these parts for as long as anyone can remember.

    New ACC commissioner Jim Phillips came from Northwestern, where his work in elevating the Wildcats’ athletic profile — at an institution that, as it ungracefully showed us after Phillips’ exit, is not particularly well-versed in high-level athletic matters — had him pegged as a future leader in college football’s power structure.

    Everyone thought he’d eventually become Big Ten commissioner. Nineteen months after his native conference passed him over, Phillips became the ACC commissioner. That news came as a surprise if only because his name hadn’t been publicly bandied about until the very end of the search process. But, in hindsight, it made total sense. As one influential figure in college athletics told The Athletic not long after Phillips was hired: The Big Ten was rich enough that it could take a chance on someone who came from outside college sports. The ACC was not.

    It still isn’t, and if Oklahoma and Texas land in the SEC, then the financial gap between the ACC and its Power 5 brethren could grow even wider over the years, after the league locked itself into a 20-year TV deal with ESPN to launch the ACC Network.

    As an ACC administrator said Thursday, his school had been worried about the financial gap morphing from a weakness into a threat even before news broke Wednesday about the SEC’s potential additions.

    So now what?

    Phillips, for his part, had wasted no time in getting started once his ACC tenure began in February. He immediately formed a football subcommittee, aimed at elevating the sport’s voices and addressing their concerns head-on. This may sound like lip service from the new boss, but those on the subcommittee — which includes coaches Dave Clawson, Pat Narduzzi and Dabo Swinney, to go with six rotating ADs — swear it has been so much more than that.

    “More than anything, as football coaches we felt we had very little voice,” Clawson told The Athletic. “We’d have these annual meetings and we’d have suggestions and, quite honestly, really nothing would happen. … And the one thing I really appreciate about Commissioner Phillips is he’s been very open, he’s been very engaging. We complained that we felt we didn’t have a voice, and he said, ‘Well, I want to give you access.’ I said, ‘We want meetings with you and ADs that we can express concerns. And if you say no, then fine, but then just tell us no. Don’t take these things and just put them off to some file that they never get looked at.’

    “And it’s been good. There’s a lot of different things going on. Certain things are always going to be, you do what’s best for where you’re working. And then I think a lot of things are just things that we think are best for the ACC and college football.”

    Clawson is in his third year as chair of the ACC head coaches’ committee, a position that usually has a one-year term but was extended after 2019 to stabilize matters during the pandemic in 2020, then extended another year with the commissioner transition.

    In some years, ACC coaches would only see each other to discuss conference matters every May at spring meetings in Amelia Island, Fla. Now they regularly get together over Zoom, engaging in substantial conversations that they hope shape the next era of ACC football — whatever that may look like after this week’s realignment chatter.

    “We’ve all got our opinion, but at least they’re listening, and in the past there has not been much listening,” Narduzzi said. “I think the only way you get better is to ask your people. Ask the people that are directly involved what can we do to make football the absolute best, where there’s no doubt that we’re the best in the country.”

    He later added: “What are we doing marketing-wise to market ACC football? What are we doing to make people understand it’s the best? What do we do with our network? How do we get the contract changed? It’s everything.”

    The ADs on the committee can provide feedback through the lens of their positions elsewhere. Pitt AD Heather Lyke is the ACC’s representative on the NCAA’s Division I council. Whit Babcock serves on the NCAA football oversight committee. North Carolina AD Bubba Cunningham is the ACC’s AD chair.

    “We’ve tried to drive some legislative changes through that committee,” Phillips told The Athletic. “We’ve tried to partner with some of the other conferences on some things football-related. That fifth-year thing and the COVID (eligibility) thing has been really hard, especially on those new freshmen or first-years coming in with those upperclassmen sticking around. And so could we get some relief from a scholarship standpoint, overall, just cap numbers, etc.?

    “It’s been a very, very productive group for us. And to me, as the commissioner, I’ve got to have input from those coaches and those ADs that are on those campuses that are living football. And so I thought it could be successful. It’s been even more successful than I had hoped.”

    Time will tell how just how successful the committee can be, given the makeup of the sport’s power structure should the SEC get even stronger. The expansion question has been — and will continue to — surround the ACC so long as Notre Dame remains a football independent, and so long as the league’s current TV deal remains in tact. It took just four questions before Phillips was asked about the Irish on Wednesday, which was his first press conference setting since taking the job.

    Ever since Phillips was hired, multiple ACC ADs have privately expressed their confidence in Phillips — one of their own, and an alum of a Big Ten conference that expanded twice while he was there — having a plan for whenever the tectonic plates of the sport began to shift. Even on Thursday, a day after the sport as we know it appeared to be on the brink of changing forever, another AD volunteered his optimism, not appearing to be the least bit unnerved, all because he had total faith in Phillips.


    “We want to become more than just Clemson-plus,” Clawson said of the league’s football power structure. “And what can we do to elevate the standard in the way that we are viewed right there with the SEC? And obviously, Clemson has held the banner for us, they’ve done an incredible job. But what do we do to help to elevate the brand, to make our football even better than it is? We come up with ideas and things that we feel are important, but it takes investment, and hopefully, that’s something that’s coming.”

    As Swinney held a similar discussion with The Athletic later in the day, the Clemson coach spoke of his holistic approach to the committee, and to the league’s football identity. Clawson was walking by and came over to validate his conference colleague’s stance, saying: “He could just drive Clemson, and he doesn’t do that. He really does what’s best for college football. And that’s why all the coaches in our league really appreciate him.”

    “And vice versa,” Swinney said. “That’s been great. We’ve been in the league awhile and we’ve never had an opportunity as coaches to have the access like we’ve had. We really have been able to communicate so much better.”
     
  39. Saul Shabazz

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    what's the dollar amount to not have piss bags thrown at me during our bouts up in Morg?
     
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  40. Saul Shabazz

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    Cuz I'll pay it
     
  41. Saul Shabazz

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    and then in turn provide safe passage for the friendly mounts that make the trip southward
     
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  42. Nizz

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    I, too, will pay the fee
     
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  43. skiedfrillet

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    i actually want to be pelted by bags of piss because i'm not a prude
     
  44. WC

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    That’s the Georgia T in you
     
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  45. Nole96SC

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    What dollar amount would you put on 3 Oxy’s and a thrift store couch?
     
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  46. JPWahoo

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  47. HoosDaMan

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    Jerry Ratcliffe “Tubby to UVa” vibes from that guy.
     
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  48. WC

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    The don’t add a team just to get to 16 is growing on me. ND is clearly an exception but WVU brings very little that we could go to ESPN and demand more money with, and otherwise they’re just splitting our already limited cash with one more mouth.

    Team 14.5 unless ND wants in.
     
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  49. JPWahoo

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    100%
     
  50. theregionsitter

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    WV is a neat school but they do nothing for the ACC

    then again neither did Louisville really so sure why not

    ACC needs to jointly negotiate their tv deal with ND whether ND is in the conference or not for football- last year something like 9 of 12 weeks the top rated football game was a ND/ACC game

    this is how both sides win