The Official Cleveland Indians Thread: i wanna die

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  1. yaywaffles

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    if we pull this out of our asses, kluber better be delivering blow jobs with extra slobber to miller, shaw, and allen before the alcs starts.
     
  2. dukebuckeye

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    I have zero faith we even get a hit off Chapman in the 9th, let alone we score a run.
     
  3. yaywaffles

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    god, FUCK jason kipnis
     
  4. dukebuckeye

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    Kipnis, Brantley, EE, Lindor, Ramirez...they all fucking sucked this series.
     
  5. Corch

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    Kipnis sucked ass all year.

    Give him up for a can of pine tar.
     
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  6. ButchCassidy

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    Wasn’t Kipnis terrible in the series last year too?
     
  7. dukebuckeye

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    Wow. Fuck you, Jackson.
     
  8. dukebuckeye

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    The unforced errors we've committed in these last three games has been staggering.
     
  9. yaywaffles

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    brantley hasn't played in 2 months. the other 3 actually contributed this season. kipnis is a trash can
     
  10. dukebuckeye

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    I said this series.
     
  11. yaywaffles

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    more errors than runs. position players need to just fuck off forever
     
  12. dukebuckeye

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    This team has not played this bad all year. Waited until these last three games to play their worst three games. So, so Cleveland of them.
     
  13. ButchCassidy

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    I mean, 17 straight fastballs wasn’t doing it. Why try an 18th?

    I don’t know how you do it, Cleveland sports fans. I’m sorry. Every time I try to root for one of your teams they blow it. Except the Browns, they’ll always be awful. But they do blow their draft picks, if that counts.
     
  14. Corch

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    Change the fucking thread title
     
  15. Corch

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    Probably shouldn't have even made it to game 5 tbh

    Just fucking awful all series from our best players.
     
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  16. yaywaffles

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    this team has the cleveland stink™. there's no coming back from that.
     
  17. yaywaffles

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    whatever. fuck baseball. appetizer for basketball and football. it can fuck off until next august when i'll go back to reading box scores for five minutes a night again.
     
  18. DrTomOsbourne

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    This is my fault guys, blame me for being a fan. All of my sports i care about fucking blow it always.
     
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  20. yaywaffles

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  21. DrTomOsbourne

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    Yankees.. The fucking Miami hurricanes and Oakland raiders fan MLB offspring
     
  22. yaywaffles

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  23. yaywaffles

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    can't wait to see what calamity happens next

    good night friends. may our violent and spiteful overlord spare you and your loved ones
     
  24. JohnnyChimpo

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  25. JohnnyChimpo

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    Gonna go rewatch 2016 finals again
     
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  26. CTownND

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    Fuck, what a disappointment. I just want to see a Tribe title for my dad and everyone else getting close to 60 that haven't seen one.
     
  27. CTownND

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    So on to next year.

    Is the thought we lose one of Bruce or Santana and one of Shaw and Smith and replace them with a replacement player? Or are we anticipating holding on to most of the roster?
     
  28. OhioHoo

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    Bruce, Santana, Brantley are all likely gone. Brantley has like a $12 million team option, I doubt they pick that up. Santana might sign a team friendly deal, but more likely someone over pays him.
     
  29. Corch

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    Let Brantley go, try to re sign Bruce and trade Kipnis for a log of chew.

    I like Santana but we can find a replacement easily.
     
  30. dukebuckeye

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    Jay Bruce- Unrestricted Free Agent. Made $13M in 2017.
    Carlos Santana- Unrestricted Free Agent. Made $12M in 2017
    Michael Brantley- Team Option ($12M)
    Boone Logan- Team Option ($7M)
    Bryan Shaw- Unrestricted Free Agent
    Joe Smith- Unrestricted Free Agent
    Josh Tomlin- Team Option ($3M)
    Austin Jackson- Unrestricted Free Agent

    I think we'll re-sign Santana for something like a 3yr/$30M deal. Pick up Tomlin's option. Let Logan walk. Probably let Shaw walk. Re-sign Smith. Try to re-sign Jackson & Bruce, though they might be hard to keep.
     
  31. dukebuckeye

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    This is going to be a good free agent year though. Lots of talent available.
     
  32. Corch

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    This team changed when Bruce was protecting Edwin. Unless you're gonna sign another hitter to protect him you've got to really try to bring him back
     
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  33. dukebuckeye

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    Agreed. Just think it's gonna be tough to keep Bruce because he will have plenty of suitors.
     
  34. Corch

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    He really liked it here, hopefully we make a competitive offer
     
  35. ButchCassidy

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    just cant believe how bad frankie, ramirez, and kipnis were.

    thought kluber was pretty good outside of pitching to didi. thought it was a terrible idea to keep attacking gardner with fastballs when he had his 100 pitch at bat.

    kipnis doesnt have a field position with the team next year, let him go.
    brantly has been too injured, let him go.
    try to re-sign everybody else.
     
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  36. TimJimothy

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    Sign Alcides Escobar. Trade Lindor to the Royals for Adalberto Mondesi. Boom.
     
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  37. JohnnyChimpo

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    I'm still pissed at Zimmer for sliding into first during the streak
     
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  38. CTownND

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    So... next year:

    -Bruce and Jackson leave in FA
    -Don't pick up Brantley options
    -Re-sign Santana to a 4 year deal

    1. OF Zimmer
    2. SS Lindor
    4. 2B Ramirez
    4. DH Encarnacion
    5. 1B Santana
    6. 3B Diaz
    7. OF Chisenhall
    8. OF Guyer / Allen
    9. C Gomes / Perez (until Mejia gets called up?)

    Thoughts? If the young guys step up, can be a similar offense as this year, only more long-term sustainability. Rotation still of Kluber, Carrasco, Bauer, Salazar, Clevinger and bullpen of Allen / Miller / internal fill-ins after Shaw and Smith walk.

    Probably still a 90 win team and favorites in central, no?
     
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  39. JohnnyChimpo

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    Like it for the most part

    Like Diaz as an everyday starter - no idea why we didn't give him a shot in ALDS after how much he played when we were actually winning
    Almonte needs more reps
    Mejia is still a long ways away (hitting wise) from being able to compete with Gomes and Perez
    Would love to see Merritt in the rotation
    Shaw drives me nuts but when he's throwing 97/98 my god he's got a lot of firepower - really unsure about the move there
     
  40. dukebuckeye

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    I'm having a hard time letting Brantley and Kipnis go. They've been great when not injured, but they are getting old and their bodies might be starting to break down. I think you pick up Brantley's option to give him one more chance.
     
  41. CTownND

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    Any chance they can decline his option and get him at, like $5-7m instead of $12m? Will there be a market for him after his last two seasons?

    I don't see Bruce coming back, he's getting a fat offer from somewhere else. Santana's consistency and OBP I think you pay up for to keep in the lineup.
     
  42. dukebuckeye

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    Plus, Santana seems like he'll give us a hometown discount.

    “I love it here,” said Santana, acquired by the Indians from the Dodgers on on July 26, 2008. “This is my home. I love Cleveland. They gave me the opportunity to play in the big leagues, to play every day.”

    He calls Progressive Field, “My house. Everybody knows me and I know everybody here.”

    But just how free agency unfolds for the Santana and the Indians is a mystery.

    “This will be tough for me after the season, but I’m going to have to make a hard decision about my career,” said Santana. “I love it here. I don’t want to go anywhere. Everybody knows. My teammates know. The front office knows. But that’s not something I can control.”
     
  43. dukebuckeye

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    Tomlin, fighting back tears, agreed.

    "This could be the last game you play with a group of guys you care about, that you enjoy, that you love," Tomlin said. "That's probably the hardest part of everything. You don't want it to end."
     
  45. dukebuckeye

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    "I don't know if I'll sleep tonight," Santana said. "I don't know. I don't know what's in my future. I'm hopeful that I can come back. This is my house. This is my family. I know everybody. Everybody knows me. So, we'll see. We'll see. Me and my family, we'll have to wait."
     
  46. dukebuckeye

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    Jay Bruce sounds like the guy most likely to take the best offer, though he is just coming off a $51M deal and might sign for a little less to stay on a competitor like the Indians.

    After the loss, Bruce was not ready to think about his future.

    "I'm going to take some time," Bruce said. "There's not really any rush for me. Nothing really starts happening until after the World Series anyway. I've got a family that I need to be there for, internalize this and just get some rest. We'll see what happens."
     
  47. yaywaffles

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    i'm fine bringing everyone back except kipnis because i think he's spent. baseball playoffs are a complete crapshoot. having the best team in mlb probably matters less than any other sport. just keep rolling the dice until it goes your way.
     
  48. OhioHoo

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    Don’t be surprised if you see Mejia at 3B, they’ve been working with him there the last couple of months and is going to winter ball to play third, anything to get his bat in the lineup.

    If they take a chance on Brantley bouncing back, it’s more than likely going to be at 1B, reduce the chances of more ankle injuries.

    Allen goes back to AAA unless he has an everyday spot, might see a guy like Tyler Naquin get another shot. OF will probably be some mix of Zimmer, Kipnis, Chisenhall (though I could see them non-tendering him), Almonte, Guyer, Diaz

    Kipnis is kind of an enigma, OF is crowded if everyone is healthy, Ramirez is the future at 2B, would make sense to look into moving him while he is still under contract and has value.
     
  49. Corch

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    You have to have a better hitter than Santana in the five hole
     
  50. dukebuckeye

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    The Tribe will face decisions on a handful of key performers, including pending free agents Carlos Santana, Bryan Shaw, Joe Smith, Jay Bruce and Austin Jackson. The club also holds a team option on Michael Brantley.

    Otherwise, the remainder of the club will be back. Here’s a look at team control (of the 40-man roster) going forward:

    Under club control through 2018:


    Cody Allen

    Michael Brantley (team option)

    Lonnie Chisenhall

    Boone Logan (team option)

    Zach McAllister

    Andrew Miller

    Josh Tomlin (team option)

    Under club control through 2019:

    Brandon Guyer

    Dan Otero

    Under club control through 2020:

    Abraham Almonte

    Trevor Bauer

    Carlos Carrasco

    Edwin Encarnacion

    Jason Kipnis

    Danny Salazar

    Under club control through 2021:

    Cody Anderson

    Yan Gomes

    Corey Kluber

    Francisco Lindor

    Under club control through 2022:

    Mike Clevinger

    Kyle Crockett

    Erik Gonzalez

    Nick Goody

    Tyler Naquin

    Roberto Perez

    Giovanny Urshela

    Under club control through 2023:

    Greg Allen

    Shawn Armstrong

    Dylan Baker

    Yandy Diaz

    Francisco Mejia

    Shawn Morimando

    Tyler Olson

    Adam Plutko

    Jose Ramirez

    Bradley Zimmer