The Opioid Epidemic

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  1. Jimmy Mac

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    Long story short, my wife had stage 1 breast cancer a few years ago decided on a double mastectomy and was prescribed OxyContin for pain. She hates pain pills and had quite a few leftovers. I had a massive headache one day and decided to nip this thing in the bud. I took 1 and was like wtf no big deal I'll take another. A half hour later I could barely stand up and had to lay down from the cold sweats and the room spinning....no fucking thanks on the heroin.
     
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  2. Redav

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    That's a dumb take
     
  3. Doug

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    eh, some good people get addicted because Dr's over prescribe pain medication - and they can be hard to kick.

    I broke 3 vertebrae years ago - I was on pain killers and muscle relaxers after about 2 weeks in I was driving home from work and had this urge to get home and take more pills. When I got home I threw them all away because I knew that was a terrible thought to have and was 100% addiction setting in. Some people have worse injuries where they do need the pills for longer, they think that since a Dr prescribed them they have to take them. I can see how a normal person can very quickly become addicted to pills.
     
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  4. TC

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    You realize Oxycontin is a time release thing that has the equivalent of 4-16 individual pills in it right
     
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  6. Jimmy Mac

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    Yeah I realized that later, I'm not a pill popper. Give me a hooter and some margaritas and I'm good.

    Edit: her prescription was 1-2 every 4 hours for pain. I weigh 80 more pounds than her no wonder it knocked her the fuck out lol.
     
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  7. Truman

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    Oh it works. Not to derail, but I can focus so much better. I take it when doing proposals and expense reports ect. I dont take it on days Im giving presentations becuase it turns in into a zombie of sorts, and i cant really think outside of the box. If someone asks a question Im not really prepared for, Im fucked.
     
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  8. TC

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    It's an amphetamine. It promotes wakefulness, improves motivation and provides euphoria. Surprisingly, from what I've read in clinical tests it does NOT improve cognitive function/make you any smarter. It just makes you feel good so you're down to keep going when you're studying or whatever
     
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  9. TC

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    Basically what you did would be like people that take a weed edible and it doesn't kick in so they take more then it hits all at once and they feel like shit. It could have potentially been dangerous if the OCs you took were high enough strength. If you took two 80s for instance you would have been getting hit with the equivalent 4 Percocets per hour every hour for 8 hours. You'd prob be vomming after two hours and could potentially OD somewhere in there
     
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  10. Magneto

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    No one can honestly say they don't know how bad for them heroin (or anything of the like) would be for them, yet they use it anyway. That is how you win Darwin awards.
     
  11. TC

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    That was prob oxycodone, not oxycontin. Oxycontin = "oxy"codone + "contin"uous release. Made so you only have to dose up every 8 hours (theoretically)
     
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  12. Jimmy Mac

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    You'll have to read my edit. I don't think they were that high. The prescription said 1-2 for her every 4 hours.
     
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  13. Truman

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    A few years ago, I had an emergency tonsillectomy. It was awful, lost 30lbs in a few weeks because I couldn't eat shit. Was perscribed Lortab. I was able to see how people get hooked on that shit. It was the best feeling ever. I would take it and just melt into my bed. It was amazing. I was also prescribed a shitload of codine pills.

    I was way over prescribed. I was given 2 more refills than I ever needed on both Rx's. I thought about getting them filled just because they were great sleep aides, but decided against it. I was in legit pain, and that shit was strong as fuck. I can imagine what oxy or stronger shit is like
     
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  14. Jimmy Mac

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    Yeah you might be right, whatever the fuck it was it wasn't much fun. Not my idea of a good time.
     
  15. Jake Barnes

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    Admitting that a large degree of personal agency plays a role doesn't negate that this is a serious problem within our power to significantly curb.
     
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  16. Truman

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    I know what it does
     
  17. TC

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    Anybody can get hooked on pain pills.

    If you took it and didn't like it the first time, just keep taking more and eventually you'll figure it out.

    If you took it and loved it the first time, watch the fuck out because you're even more susceptible than average.
     
  18. TC

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    You don't see how people would want to take something that makes them feel motivated and euphoric?
     
  19. Truman

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    No, because they dont make me feel that way. It helps me focus, but it also makes me feel like crap. I usually makes me sweat, sometimes it gives me that 'blue balls' feeling, constipates me like crazy. In my experience, it's a lot of downside to help me focus.

    None of that is fun to me :idk:
     
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  20. Magneto

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    I think I've gotten high from them like once when taking prescribed painkillers, and it was just a miserable high that I did not like.
     
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  21. Teflon Queen

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    You're an idiot
     
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  22. Magneto

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    Like you have room to talk.
     
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  23. Druce

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    You clearly have a good grasp on how a lot of opioid addictions are formed.
     
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  25. triceratops

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    Friends with a ER Doc that works in an area hit hard by opioids in Ohio.

    An OD was brought in revived him with narcan. Left him to go narcan another patient, original patient found more drugs in pocket and ODed again.

    His stories are depressing like 5 ODs a shift.

    I am like stick to foreign body up cavity stories please.
     
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  26. Lyrtch

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    pharmaceutical companies are currently expanding their PR campaigns and lobbying into other countries because (prior to Trump at least) the US was cracking down on providers over prescribing opioids
     
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  27. TC

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    Damn. That's some Motley Crue shit
     
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  28. WillieHuff

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    Narcan is just a competitive inhibitor of opiods. Basically it has a stronger affinity for the pain receptor with no effect on it than the opioids and will displace them. Nothing will happen if you take it sober. However it has a short half life so you have to keep giving it as it wears off pretty quick and you get high/OD again.

    One of the best and meanest things to do is Narcan someone who has OD'd in the ED. They go from passed out to wide awake in seconds and start withdrawing. They wake up from a deep sleep and immediately feel like shit, and are usually like OH GOD WHAT DID YOU DO TO ME??? Gotcha bitch!

    I've only used it when I needed to get a neuro exam to make sure their spine injury hadn't gotten worse and they aren't cooperating.
     
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  29. WillieHuff

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    The worst thing to ever happen to medicine is reimbursement rates are tied to patient satisfaction scores.
     
  30. Magneto

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    Wow, and to think the person who had this idea is likely highly "educated".
     
  31. dukebuckeye

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    Speaking of which, if you're infatuated with opiods and enjoy Motley Crue, I high recommend reading The Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx
     
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    :laugh:
     
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  34. Magneto

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  35. Magneto

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    I must say, I am also in favor of draconian punishments for those who traffic in pain killers and opiods. Up to and including liberal use of the felony murder rule to punish those selling the drugs illegally, and for doctors who are over prescribing to line their pockets from pharmaceutical companies. It isn't like someone dying from an OD is a surprising result that one could not reasonably predict.
     
  36. Joe_Pesci

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    i would imagine that most dealers are financing their own habit :idk:
     
  37. Magneto

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    That doesn't remove their responsibility for the deaths of their clients.
     
  38. buckwild

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    I've had some weekend bachelor parties where I'm still sneezing some blue stuff out on like Wednesday....:mulletsmug:
     
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  39. Baron

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    New thread logo fits perfectly lmao
     
  40. Pelican

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    I'm from a town of about 12,000 and four have overdosed and died in the last six weeks or so. IMO one of the biggest problems is all of the enabling that goes on (at least here). One recovering addict suddenly relapsed and died last month. His family proceeded to take to Facebook and constantly post about how he was murdered and his death wasn't drug related. They also kept calling local law enforcement asking them why they hadn't found the person who killed him.

    Maybe it's not "one of the biggest problems" but it's probably the most annoying thing for me.

    Weird how all the social media posts stopped when the autopsy came back.
     
  41. Pelican

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    This also makes me think about the girl I hung out with last year and quite honestly that still hurts a lot and I'm just not ready to talk about it.
     
  42. AlternativeFactsRule

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    Most doctors that over prescribe aren't getting paid any extra to do so. They are just trying to keep their patients happy,
     
  43. Redav

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    Might be a defense mechanism as opposed to answering the questions of "what should have I done differently/how did I not know/am I responsible." It's prob easier if their loved one was just murdered
     
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  44. Jim Brockmire

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    "This one is fast acting, but this one is long lasting. So I ask myself, do I wanna feel better now... or later?"

    Seinfeld the GOAT.
     
  45. Celemo

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    In Salem there is a huge anti-opioid push with the majority of docs I work with which is great. However my wife has a torn labrum in her hip. She can't have surgery until at least November because of work reasons. While awaiting her steroid injection the pain got so bad she asked them for help with pain management. Ok, take some tylenol. Oh that didn't work? try this anti-inflammatory. Neither did shit for the amount of pain but she didn't want to ask for anything stronger for fear that she would be labelled as a drug seeker. This epidemic shit sucks for people who need opioids for legit reasons
     
  46. dathalfnukkahd

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    Places like Youngstown Ohio have way worse problems then this feel sorry for yourself little cac town
     
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  47. Professor Moriarty

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    The structure of heroin and fentanyl aren't the same. Diacetylmorphine (heroin) and 6-monoacetylmorphine, the diacetyl functional groups of heroin causes it to take effect much more rapidly. Heroin's organic structure is similar to hydromorphone, oxycodone, morphine. The two base functional groups are the only compounds you alter (-OH, acetyl group, ester, carbonyl group).

    Fentanyl is nasty (the chemical structure is much more open) but carfentanil is the nasty bitch that's hidden in trace amounts in the south. Grey death in Georgia is a combination of acetylfentanyl, fentanyl a little carfentanil and heroin.
     
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  48. Bill the Butcher

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    You're such a fat faggot
     
  49. Bill the Butcher

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    They did two episodes of drugs inc from my neighborhood, West Side of Columbus. These fuckers are zombies. The only thing the fire dept does is shoot people up. Pathetic.
     
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