The Plot Against America - HBO Mini-series

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  1. Handcuffed

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    David Simon and Ed Burns
    Based on the Phillip Roth novel

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    Winona Ryder
    Zoe Kazan
    John Turturro

    Premiers in mid-March
     
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  2. steamengine

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    From the good people who brought you the Wire. The premise being what would America look like if FDR lost to Lindbergh and we got fascism 80 years ago after siding with the Germans in WW2.

    2004 Philip Roth book.

    Premiers tonight.

     
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  3. laxjoe

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    Can’t wait!
     
  4. Truman

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    I never heard of this before a few weeks ago when I saw a preview for it, and I decided to read the book. The book was written in 2002. My jaw was on the floor w how much it relates to current events. You could have convinced me the author had a time machine. The book was amazing and I cant wait to watch this. If I read it 5-6 years ago, it would have been an interesting alternative history book. After the last 3 years, it's pretty incredible.
     
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  5. Truman

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    Also - lol @ the thread icon.
     
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  6. Virgil Caine

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    First episode was pretty great.
     
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  7. Mr. Bean

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    Part 2 was meh. Clearly a setup episode
     
  8. Virgil Caine

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    Tend to agree. Felt like the election at the end was the accelerant for the rest of the series.
     
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  9. IvanTheTerrible

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    Knocked out the first two parts yesterday. This actually made me do a deep dive on Charles Lindbergh's life as well. Talk about jumping down a Nazi sympathizer rabbit hole.
     
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  10. Truman

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    HBO puts out a podcast after each episode w David Simon that's really good/interesting
     
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  11. IvanTheTerrible

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    I'll give them a listen during this quarantine
     
  12. zeberdee

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    I'm all-in on this after watching the first two last night.

    feel like the kid who plays Alvin is going to be the breakout from this show.
     
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  13. Virgil Caine

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    Last night was probably the best of the three.
     
  14. Upton^2

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    Enjoying the show, but all I keep thinking is how dark it is inside their house. Turn some lights on
     
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  15. IvanTheTerrible

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    Agreed, the story moved on a great deal. The entire DC trip made me paranoid a good bit. The "Just Folks" program sounds like it will not end well. Given the time period and Lindbergh being potus. I expect that we see some Klan activity in Kentucky.
     
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  16. Virgil Caine

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    Yeah, this episode definitely accelerated things with pretty much every character.

    It's just like every Simon show, though. Not something you can watch casually, but a show you need to be locked in on the whole episode to really feel it. And I bet ratings are low, but it'll get rave reviews.
     
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  17. Joe Louis

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    It feels like a great show but damn it just scares the shit out of me and that is sapping my enjoyment in some respects :ohnoes:

    The diner scene with Herman singing and Mr. Taylor's presence however was very uplifting and a little needed for me to relax a bit while wathching. I must say though I was screaming at my TV for Herman to just STFU with the political talk because it had me on edge waiting for something bad to happen ...

    Also, Bess played by Zoe Kazan AKA Andrea Martino :gfa:

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  18. Handcuffed

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    Bump. Anyone watching? Series is 2/3 over now.
     
  19. identikit

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    I'm watching.

    A bit on the meh side for me.

    YMMV
     
  20. IvanTheTerrible

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    I was going to say. We have two threads for this.
     
  21. Truman

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    That ep was really good
     
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  22. IvanTheTerrible

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    It made me very uncomfortable the entire time.

    Am I correct in believing that the dude who dropped the "If this was the south. you would be out back riling up niggers" line was Henry Ford?
     
  23. Truman

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    Yeah, that was Henry Ford
     
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  24. IvanTheTerrible

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    Evelyn's line to Henry Ford was pretty funny. Unfortunately, I believe the Rabbi is setting up a terrible situation with this Homestead Act.
     
  25. LookslikeUofI

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    Why didn't hop to the wheelchair and then go back for the bedpan?
     
  26. Andy Reocho

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    From glancing at the brief posts, it seems like this is worth a watch?
     
  27. Truman

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    Yep. If you like historical alternative fiction. It's also pretty relevant to current events.
     
  28. zeberdee

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    this show is starting to have a Black Mirror effect on me in that it's a great show, but I hate the way I feel when I'm watching it.
     
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  29. rickyrubio4life

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    This is a really good show. It’s tense and feels like it’s building to something terrible. I have really enjoyed it thus far. It felt so good when wifey backhanded that shitty teenager straight to hell.
     
  30. Truman

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    This is one of the better book to film adaptations I’ve seen in a while. They’re doing a really good job.
     
  31. IvanTheTerrible

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    The preview for the series finale is unsettling (the entire show has been unsettling).
     
  32. rickyrubio4life

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    This fucking Sandy kid needs a serious beating. What a piece of shit.
     
  33. ned's head

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    Each episode gets better. Also, winona is the queen of making a character unlikable
     
  34. ned's head

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    That was unsettling, but damn was that good
     
  35. Virgil Caine

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    Not a smile to be had in that entire series.
     
  36. rickyrubio4life

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    Oh I smiled like a motherfucker when they came for Turturro ans Winona
     
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  37. Truman

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    They changed the end quite a bit, they did a really good job. 9/10
     
  38. Mr. Bean

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    Didn’t read the book. What was the main difference in the adaptation of the ending?
     
  39. Truman

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    The two big things were they set up Limbergh being under Nazi control more. They were the ones who kidnapped his kid and held him ransom.

    The other is FDR won the election, we entered the war after Pearl Harbor and history went on like normal. Once the figurehead in Limbergh was gone, the rampant antisemitism and racist died down.


    The ambiguous ending of the show is a much better ending and social commentary imo considering current events.
     
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