Lol Lombardi make a consistent argument. First he’s saying don’t let great workouts bias your draft decision and then he says the 6ers shouldn’t have drafted Fultz based on…a bad workout. Then he stans for Shanahan by saying he wanted Mac but after months of people saying you can only trade up for Lance he budged. “You’ve got to trust Kyle at the quarterback position.” Uhm so what’s your thought on Kyle wanting to make that trade for fucking Mac Jones?
I don't listen to any Simmons stuff that isn't basketball any more, but Simmons/Lombardi has always been a hilarious duo in terms of their collective arrogance compared to actual resumes. Both of them talk about football like everything about it is just so simple and how can everyone be stupid? They're also tremendous examples of the world being a better place if Belichick never lucked into Brady and won all those Super Bowls.
Lombardi's resume indicates the only reason anyone knows his name is that he knows Bill Belichick. Because everything he's done outside of working for/with Belichick have gone very poorly. The man got hired to run the Cleveland Browns in the mid-2010s and somehow made them more embarrassing.
So much of the NFL is so unbelievably stupid that there is no job history you could have within the league that would make me say "this person should be a smart expert."
This is a great counter. I read "collision low crossers" about the Jets and the author had unreal access and my take away was "holy shit these dudes are stupid".
In this instance, because I've listened to a bunch of Simmons/Lombardi pods in the past that made me stop. Which means that while I can't speak to the stupidity in this most recent podcast, I am aware of their collective stupidity when they get together. HTH
I remember when Chuck Klosterman shadowed the Browns / Lombardi on draft day for Grantland and basically they sat around all day watching espn like the rest of us do that day, made some calls, sent some texts and then drafted Barkegious Mingo
Lombardi and Warren Sharp are the biggest frauds in the football media, and of course Bill has them both on regularly. The Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil of football, with Bill as Oprah.
Im glad we had 30 minutes of the Pats winning the division and a key piece being the “Malik Cunningham Package”
I loved the “the pats should run some Malik Cunningham plays week 1 just so every dc afterwards has to say “oh shit we need to rep these plays” Tell me you don’t know shit about football without telling me you don’t know fuck all about football. Even Belichick would just play 1 robber and force a give and not even look up from his notepad
Man Ryen is soooooo close to understanding the scourge of capitalism because it is turning college football into a more tv centric sport Oregon State having to drop to FCS to play Montana State and North Dakota State is going to have him wearing a Che Guevara T Shirt
“How we do feel about Deshaun Watson in 2023” …uhh Bill we feel not good about a predator getting the most guaranteed money ever?
Nephew Kyle shout out https://laist.com/news/criminal-jus...llywood-and-scammed-more-people-faces-charges
ryen's "actually it's the qbs who have it tough, not the rbs" monologue is a mt rushmore-tier dumb thing
Over / unders pod is out Let’s me guess: pats over. Rest of teams under! Steelers and browns over too!
most upvoted comment on the reddit about this podcast: "Odds of Bill going under on the Bills was about the same as the sun rising East." it was fun hearing him judo side step Sal's counter points by just being a little twat. Bill citing the 2019 WC loss to Houston as a reason the bills won't hit their regular season over/under was a treat so happy to have Sal back
oh my Bill on the Pats. this is going to be such a fun year his new "points" system is amazingly deranged
'Jets and Bills have really hard schedules! Bills have to play Rodgers twice, Tua twice, Dak, Hurts, Mahomes' okay. lets check the Pats schedule: Eagles, Dolphins x2, Buffalo x2, NYJ x2, Giants, Chargers, Chiefs almost like they play nearly the exact same schedule. also amazing that NE "nailed" their draft even though we haven't played a single game. Meanwhile, the Jets legitimately nailed their draft last year and had offensive and defensive rookies of the year + Breece Hall. Then they added Rodgers. Imagine if the Pats actually had rookies who won awards and then added a top 10 QB. Funny when Sal said "I like Dorsey in year two" and Bill scoffed "that's what you are citing to me to counter my take?" as if Bill's reasons for the Pats winning 10 games are any better. They have Bill O'Brien! They nailed the draft! Mac looked good at camp!
almost forgot. they drafted a kicker and punter. the punter gets so much hangtime! the only relevant team with a top 10 punter last year was KC
So because the Bills lost to an all time Chiefs team twice and a good bengals team in the playoffs means they’ll suck in the regular season? It makes no sense edit - I see this has been covered lol
Sal saying "okay but they've hit their over 5 of the last 6 seasons" and Bill just going through their roster and saying meh sure was something. If the Patriots drafted Dalton Kincaid BS would have led every podcast in August with a training camp update. there is a very real possibility Buffalo's overall age catches up to them this year (valid argument that Bill could but didn't make). there is also a real possibility Allen stays healthy, they don't lose Von Miller and Micah Hyde for the entire year, and have a player die on the field.
I agree the AFC North will be very competetive. But just due to #s, one of Bill or Sal will be wildly wrong about Cleveland / Pittsburgh
I understand it's not supposed to be a hardcore gambling podcast but Sal roasting Bill for not counting the games was pretty funny. Seemed like Bill actually didn't like it