The ShitPit: Racists, Rapist and Pedos Oh My

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  1. BetterCallSaul

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    A federally mandated proportional electoral system by state would alleviate a lot of the issues this thread is addressing imo.
     
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  2. BellottiBold

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    You guys are glossing over how exquisitely TH this post was.
    "Keep things the same because Democrats would win if things were done your way and then the change would appear to have been made so that they would win."

    You are a fucking moron.
     
  3. Talking Head

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    :bang:

    Would you say the house is “more democratic” than the senate?

    That doesn’t make the senate undemocratic. It just means it more accurately represents the entirety of the US population. Certain branches are more democratic than others and the system of government is tied to a constitution that prevents simple short term majorities from determining policies.

    We’re arguing over fucking definitions right now. I’m out if that’s what we’re arguing.
     
  4. ALE☭COCK

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    Talking Head

    I know it's difficult when you have to manufacture bullshit for 5 different conversations, but I didn't want you to miss this. Thx.
     
  5. The Banks

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    His post, which garnered zero likes from his trumptard buddies, was called out and laughed at
     
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  6. AlternativeFactsRule

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    It’s tied to a document that allows long term minorities to determine policy. How is that healthy for the nation?
     
  7. Comcast

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    Baja hahahahhahaha haha holy shit if you actually believe this
     
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  8. The Banks

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    You were the one that was presented definitions then kept arguing.

    Let's get back to how you think an electoral college is representative than a popular vote, still waiting for that answer.
     
  9. Comcast

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    How is wanting lower taxes extreme?
     
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  10. TwoPoor

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    Can you be more explicit in your rebuttal?
     
  11. Talking Head

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    Probably because the document has held up incredibly well and has produced the most prosperous country in human history. If enough people decide to do away with something in it then that can happen, but it’s not gonna happen without a good 75-80% of people agreeing to do it along with states with a smaller population agreeing to reduce its proportional representation.

    I don’t know what to tell you except abolishing the electoral college won’t happen. You should go another route.

    It isn’t more representative than a popular vote.

    It does create a moderating effect that forces candidates to reach out to populations that they could ignore if the better strategy was to maximize your votes in strongholds.
     
  12. TwoPoor

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    Are you just the least informed person alive and that's what all this is about? Do you really think there's nothing else on the platform?
     
  13. The Banks

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    More than that agree that more gun legislation is required, why hasn't that happened?
     
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  14. Comcast

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    There are no internment camps for children, there is no law making Christianity the supreme religion, women are not supressed.
     
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  15. ALE☭COCK

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    Talking Head I think you meant to reply to this, fella. Honest mistake, I'm sure.
     
  16. The Banks

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    How is that better than the alternative?
     
  17. AlternativeFactsRule

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    Whether or not something will happen is no way the same as arguing whether or not that same thing should happen. You’ve been arguing for pages (years) that it shouldn’t happen. That’s what this discussion is about. You don’t get to change horses midstream.

    Senators were not elected by popular vote until 1913. The nation and the document it was founded upon continue to exist because that document is malleable and changes and was meant to change as the nation did.
     
  18. TwoPoor

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    So what would you call those detention facilities for children that were set up this year
     
  19. Comcast

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    Like you chodes don’t push the racist narrative every single time you don’t get your way.
     
  20. BetterCallSaul

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    It would only be more representative of all parts of the US if every state had to cast electoral votes proportionately.

    The electoral system as is marginalizes minority party votes by state. If 50.000000000001% of the vote is for one side, is it really fair to give up to dozens of votes to the winner? Nope.

    At the same time, a popular system marginalizes minority party votes all over the country. If 50.000000001% of the country votes for one candidate, but those votes are overwhelmingly from a handful of states, is that fair to voters in a majority of the states? Nope.

    Get rid of the 270 number and make every state allocate its electoral votes in proportion to the popular vote of the state. That would balance one person, one vote with state's rights.
     
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  21. Comcast

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    They weren’t. There were detainment facilities even when Obama was president. When an adult gets arrested their children don’t go with them. It’s fairly standard procedure.
     
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  22. TwoPoor

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    What does this have to do with anything? You are aware that there's more on the GOP platform than lowering taxes, yes?
     
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  23. TwoPoor

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    Damn, glad to hear Jeff Sessions was lying when he had that press conference about forcibly separating children from their families and holding them in internment camps. Because that would have been monstrously cruel.
     
  24. Comcast

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    There absolutely is. Yet somehow you guys only picture the right as racist, sexist, and bigoted. Shouldn’t the left realize there’s more to their platform?
     
  25. TwoPoor

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    I'm fairly certain i can list more of the official GOP party platform than you
     
  26. ALE☭COCK

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    Because you are hth
     
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  27. Talking Head

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    Probably because that statistic starts diminishing when you start getting into specifics instead of such a vague ass statement. No one wants guns in the hands of the mentally ill (and there are ways to strip them of that freedom currently) but you have to actually start legislating what that entails.

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    We’re discussing a clear policy. Abolish the electoral college or don’t. I promise 80% of people aren’t gonna agree on that, but if they did then there’s a mechanism in our government that allows that to happen.

    It’s a lot more feasible to weight the votes at the state level.
     
  28. The Banks

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    Talking Head if this method were applied Trump Would still have won.
     
  29. The Banks

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    So 71% of those respondents want a federal database for tracking gun sales/movement. Should that not be enough to get enacted into law?
     
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  30. ALE☭COCK

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    Hey Talking Head here's that post you forgot to respond to, friendo : D
     
  31. R2-D2Big

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    Why is a hammer and sickle cuck like ale trying to teach us how democracy works?

    :shocker:
     
  32. Talking Head

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    I like the moderating effect it creates. Catering to strongholds is how we got so divided in the first place.

    I don’t think it should happen. I’m telling you why I don’t think it should happen.

    I think if it were to happen it would happen at the state level, because I don’t see smaller states diminishing their power to decide president through the amendment process.
     
  33. ALE☭COCK

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    Not your best work
     
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  34. The Banks

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    How many time do you have to be told that populations of small states aren't giving up power, populations of swing states are
     
  35. Talking Head

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    It’s definitely better than straight popular vote.

    Probably not, primarily because people don’t believe the politicians who make that a part of their platform would stop there.
     
  36. The Banks

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    But like you said, if there's enough people that disagree, they can vote them out and change the laws to what they want. You know, a representative democracy.
     
  37. Talking Head

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    How many times do you have to be told that this looks like a ploy to elect democrats? They’ve won the popular vote in every election but one since ‘92.

    Something tells me Mississippi isn’t gonna vote to make that happen.
     
  38. The Banks

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    You're saying why you don't want it to happen, we're asking why shouldn't it.
     
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    I’m saying it won’t happen. I’m telling you why it won’t happen logistically.

    I’m also saying it shouldn’t happen, because the electoral college creates a moderating effect that would not be present in a popular vote election. You’d be better off as a candidate ignoring the other side. It’d also make soliciting the rural vote absolutely dumb considering the resources that would require versus the payoff.
     
  40. BudKilmer

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    All Republicans are dumb as shit. You all have a mental disease

     
  41. The Banks

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    The rural vote is already ignored, it's the swing states that are the focus. Small, medium, and large cities. You don't see Trump going to the rural town of 58 people in the panhandle of Oklahoma, you know, actual rural people.
     
  42. ALE☭COCK

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  43. Daniel Ocean

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    Thinking flyover states are more diverse than California is ludicrous and shows you really don’t know what you’re talking about.
     
  44. Talking Head

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    Right, but if trump speaks in Youngstown, OH (small city) then someone from East Palestine can drive twenty minutes to see him.

    Someone from Wrightwood, CA isn’t driving 90 minutes to see Hillary and she doesn’t give a fuck whether they choose to or not if it’s by popular vote. She might care in OH in the current system though.
     
  45. Talking Head

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    You don’t think Ohio is more politically diverse than California?
     
  46. ALE☭COCK

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    Color me shocked that you don't know the difference between diversity and balance
     
  47. The Banks

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    The Youngstown metropolitan area is over half a million, that's not rural America, nor is anything within 20 minutes of it. Suburban, sure, but not rural. And why does the Ohio person get a 20 minute radius and the California person get a 90 minute radius, or are you just being disingenuous again?

    Once again, the issue isn't small states or rural voters, it's all voters in swing states. That's our system.
     
  48. ALE☭COCK

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    Odds that th has never even stepped foot in California?
     
  49. Talking Head

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    I didn’t say it was rural. I specifically said it was a small city. East Palestine is rural and the car ride is actually 30 minutes (sorry I remember it being less) from the small city of Youngstown.

    I googled “small towns near LA” and wrightwood is what popped up. It said the car ride was 90 minutes. Is there some other rural town that’s within 30 minutes of LA? Is anywhere in LA within a 30 minute drive of anywhere else in LA?
     
  50. Talking Head

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    Odds that alecock left his basement this weekend?
     
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