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  1. Leeroy Jenkins!

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    Thats why I liked cotton exchange, it was above Mia Madonna, now 5bar and a kaplan test center. Super quiet.
     
  2. Cousin Eddie

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    I lived in a loft on Clayton street which was very annoying noise wise but otherwise really fun. Fred Moorman is possibly the worst landlord in Athens though. Total scumbag.
     
  3. electronic

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    We’re somehow 10/15 from 3 so far today. 20 turnovers though. This team is so frustrating to watch.

    Feel pretty confident that a collapse is coming.
     
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  4. Jake Scott

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    I don’t really understand how we can commit so many turnovers. It’s simply incredible.
     
  5. bcuga

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    Watching Claxton play is great.

    Glad Hammonds made it back in.
     
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  6. Jake Scott

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    Where are the refs?
     
  7. Jake Scott

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  8. Leeroy Jenkins!

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    Hello Gentlemen
     
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  9. electronic

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    26 turnovers. 95 points. 7 point lead.


    Does not compute.
     
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  10. Walt Disney

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  11. Fargin'

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    Wife's a State fan, that was awesome.
     
  12. electronic

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    Got me fired up for March madness.
     
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  13. Fargin'

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    Yeah funny. We were jumping up and down like it meant something.
     
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  14. electronic

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    Does Jay Hayes have any eligibility left? Goddamn that guy didn’t do anything.
     
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  15. Redav

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    Hopefully not but I don't think so
     
  16. Jake Scott

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    Nah he doesn't.
     
  17. electronic

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    Was reading a story on the Athletic this morning, and our receiver list leaves a lot to be desired. Really need Robertson to live up to his recruiting hype this year.
     
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  18. Jake Scott

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    That's why we need Pickens so bad.
     
  19. Jake Scott

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    We now don't have a real receiving threat at TE either.

    We lost a whole lot or production between Godwin, Mecole, Ridley and Nauta. Lost Holyfield, Gaillard and the OC.

    Offense is going to be very fucking interesting next year.
     
  20. electronic

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    Holloman is a stud, but we have nothing but talented question marks behind him. As it stands, I’m guessing our second leading receiver next year is either Blaylock or Kearis.
     
  21. Jake Scott

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    Simmons caught some balls late in the year. If he can play in the slot he would be a huge help.
     
  22. Jake Scott

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    Could also see James Cook playing in the slot a lot more.
     
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  23. electronic

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    I love Simmons’ attitude and toughness, but I don’t see him being a legit second receiver. I could see him being a Michael Bennett type first down machine, though.
     
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  24. Jake Scott

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    You're probably right on him not being a legit second WR. It's going to be in the season before we know who that is. Robertson is still too much of an unknown.
     
  25. electronic

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    Fromm is going to earn any accolades he gets this year, that’s for sure. Our OL should be awesome, but he may have to fit the ball in some tight windows.
     
  26. Jake Scott

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    Agreed. I bet we run the ball more this season with what we lost. So I’m curious to see Fromm with pretty much all new targets and a new OC.
     
  27. ugafish

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    Not sure we have the backs to run more this year.
     
  28. Jake Scott

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    We have the OL to.
     
  29. electronic

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    Herrien is going to get a lot of carries this fall, which is kinda terrifying. On the other hand, seems like every time I shit on him, he has a really impressive performance.
     
  30. Jake Scott

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    I'm excited to see what Herrien can do :idk: He's not the most exciting back but I think he will be good.

    I just don't think it's going to matter that much behind our OL. And I've been team Zeus will be back from the jump. So :pray:
     
  31. electronic

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    I’m afraid that Zeus is going to be Albert Hollis.
     
  32. London Humphreys

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    Don't you fucking even...
     
  33. Walt Disney

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    :out:
     
  34. electronic

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    Dude has had 2 knee surgeries before he’s gotten a carry. Best case scenario is Keith Marshall, I’m guessing.
     
  35. Jake Scott

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    He's built differently than Keith Marshall. He's got 4 years left to come back. After what Chubb did, I think he's got a great shot.

    I'm hopeful that by mid-season he's getting real carries
     
  36. juice

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    I’m keeping my expectations low for Zamir but his best case scenario is far beyond Marshall.
     
  37. electronic

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    Fair point.

    I phrased my post poorly. I was trying to indicate that I’m doubtful that we’ll ever see a truly healthy Zeus White. From what I’ve read, the biggest predictor for future injuries is the injury history of a particular athlete. There have been some really interesting articles on “health as a skill” analysis, and I’m always enamored with new schools of thought in athletics.
     
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  38. TeeDee

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    To be fair, we're in a different era of sports medicine now. I think Zamir ends up being a 1-3 round guy still, unless his recovery is reportedly going poorly and I'm not aware of it. He may not run a 10.5 or whatever anymore or cut like he used to, but his ceiling is still high.
     
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  39. spydog

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    Yeah, count me in the group that expects him to be 100% or about as close as you can get by mid season. I fully expect Zeus to be our 2nd best RB next year
     
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  40. Jake Scott

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    I'm curious to see how our OL looks next year. Depth is stupid good.

    LT - Thomas is locked in
    LG - Kindley took that one and ran
    C - idk, Hill? Salyer? Webb?
    RG - Mays/Ben
    RT - Wilson, so underrated
     
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  41. spydog

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    Sayler was so fucking good when he played this year, but its hard to imagine him taking an OG spot. C seems like the only spot, but Hill has worked out there a lot more than Salyer and you have Webb and Ericson also there.
     
  42. Jake Scott

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    If anyone is interested...

    How Georgia's offense might change under James Coley
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    Georgia's offense has changed hands. James Coley will be the Bulldogs new play caller after three years (two highly productive ones) of Jim Chaney. Unlike Chaney, Coley doesn't have a large sample size to pull from but he does have three years at Miami as a reference for what UGA fans can expect.

    The numbers show that there should be some expectation of change. The terminology will probably remain and with Coley serving as the co-offensive coordinator a year ago, the personnel groupings and formations probably won't be altered that much. But with a new guy making the decisions on which plays to call and when, a look back at what Coley did with the Hurricanes shows that run/pass splits, who gets the ball and how they get it could all shift in 2019.

    Run/Pass splits
    Coley had a senior triggerman in his first season at Miami and Chaney never had that at UGA. In his three years with the Bulldogs, Chaney had a true freshman, a true freshman, and a true sophomore. Coley's last two years with the Hurricanes, however, match up perfectly with Chaney at UGA. Brad Kaaya was Miami's starting quarterback during his freshman year in 2014 and during his sophomore year in 2015, Coley's final two with the program.

    Coley and Chaney in Year 1: With Stephen Morris behind center in 2013, Miami attempted 384 passes compared to 436 rushes. That's a split of 52 percent run and 48 percent pass. You aren't going to get much closer to 50/50 than that. With Jacob Eason behind center in 2016, Georgia attempted 386 passes compared to 533 rushes. That's 57 percent run and 43 percent pass.

    When you turn the attention to first down, Miami was 62 percent run in Coley's first year and Georgia was just under 68 percent in Chaney's first. Keep in mind, that's with a senior quarterback vs. a true freshman.

    Coley and Chaney in Year 2: With Kaaya behind center in 2014, Miami shifted a little in the run/pass split but not much. The Hurricanes were 53 percent run (446 attempts) and 47 percent pass (391) overall. With Jake Fromm at quarterback in 2017, Georgia was 68.7 percent run (670 attempts) and 31.3 percent pass (305 attempts) overall.

    A look at first down shows that Miami was 59.5 percent run on first down and 40.5 percent pass. Georgia was a staggering 77.3 percent run and 22.7 percent pass. It's hard to argue with the results, however, as UGA was gaining 6.28 yards per carry on first down while Miami was just under 5.5 -- not to mention a College Football Playoff run and SEC Championship for the Bulldogs.

    Coley and Chaney Year 3: With a sophomore Kaaya behind center in 2015, the Hurricanes were actually pass-heavy overall. They were 51.4 (449 attempts) percent pass and 48.6 (424 attempts) percent run. With a sophomore Fromm at quarterback, Georgia shifted to 61.4 percent run (567 attempts) and 38.6 percent pass (356 attempts).

    On first down the Hurricanes were 57.5 percent run and 42.5 percent pass while Georgia was 67.2 percent run and 32.8 percent pass. Once again, hard to argue with UGA's results seeing as how it played its way into the SEC Championship and Sugar Bowl and Miami's staff was let go at the end of the year.

    Now there is some context that needs to be added. The overall numbers are skewed by the fact that Georgia had a high percentage of blowout wins in 2017 and 2018. Some fourth quarters during those games saw the Bulldogs go to the ground game exclusively. Miami, however, played in a high number of competitive, four-quarter games.

    Still, one can conclude that Coley will attempt to bring more of a run/pass balance element to Georgia's offense and he'll have a junior quarterback with 28 starts under his belt to help him do it.

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    Running back usage
    The rushing numbers already tell you that Coley didn't hand it off to the running backs at Miami as much as Chaney did at UGA, but what about how he used them in the passing game?

    Coley and Chaney in Year 1: The running backs at Miami caught 31 passes for 331 yards and a touchdown in 2013. That comes out to be 10.7 yards per grab. The Bulldog ball carriers caught 40 passes 354 yards and three touchdowns in 2016. That comes out to be 8.85 yards per catch.

    Coley and Chaney in Year 2: Miami's running backs caught 49 passes for 591 yards and four touchdowns in 2014, an average of just over 12 yards per catch. Duke Johnson led the way with 38 catches for 421 yards and three scores. Georgia's caught 33 passes for 284 yards and two scores in 2017. That's an average of 8.6 per grab.

    Coley and Chaney in Year 3: Miami's running backs caught 45 passes for 577 yards and three touchdowns in 2015, good for 12.8 yards per catch. Joseph Yearby and Mark Walton each had over 20 catches and 270 yards. Georgia's running backs had 54 catches for 483 yards and four touchdowns in 2018, an average of 8.9 per catch.

    Over the course of three years, Miami's running backs caught an average of 41.7 passes per year for right at 500 yards per season while Georgia's caught 42.3 passes per year for 373.7 yards per season. Coley may not target the running backs more as the offensive coordinator at Georgia but based on the numbers, it's reasonable to expect them to be put in better situations to pick up yardage. Miami's running backs averaged 12 yards per catch under Coley while Georgia's averaged 8.8 the past three seasons.

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    Tight end usage
    While Georgia saw an uptick in tight end targets and catches from 2017 to 2018, Bulldog fans have been calling for this position to be more involved in the passing game. The number suggests Coley might make that happen.

    Coley and Chaney in Year 1: Miami's tight end combined to catch 47 passes for 586 yards and four touchdowns in 2013, an average of 12.5 yards per catch. Clive Walford accounted for 34 catches, 454 yards and two scores on his own. Georgia's tight ends pulled in 41 passes for 485 yards, and three scores, an average of 11.8 yards per catch.

    Coley and Chaney in Year 2: Miami's tight ends caught 52 passes for 833 yards and seven touchdowns in 2014, good for just over 16 yards per catch. Walford led the team in receptions with 44, finished second in receiving yards with 676, and second in touchdowns with seven. Georgia's tight ends hauled in 22 passes for 245 yards and two touchdowns in 2017, good for 11.1 yards per catch.

    Coley and Chaney in Year 3: Miami's tight ends pulled down 48 passes for 702 yards and three scores in 2015, an average of 14.6 yards per catch. David Njoku, as a freshman, led the way with 21 catches for 362 yards and a score. A sophomore Chris Herndon had 18 grabs for 237 yards and a score as well. Georgia's tight ends had 43 catches for 594 yards and three touchdowns in 2018, good for 13.8 yards per catch.

    Over the course of three seasons, Coley's tight ends averaged 49 catches and 707 yards per year, good for an average of 14.4 yards per grab. During Chaney's three years, Georgia's tight ends averaged 35.3 catches and 441.3 yards per season, an average of 12.5 yards per catch.

    If the past is any indication, the tight ends will be more involved under Coley and they'll get more opportunities in space and down the field.
     
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  43. electronic

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    Our second team OL is better than 75% of our starting lines during the Richt years. It’s fucking awesome.
     
  44. Jake Scott

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    We need more depth at OT, but yea, it's incredible what Pittman has done to the roster.

    I remember a lot of years under Richt where we might have 6-7 OL that could play in a season... Last year we lost our LT for games, RG for almost the year and had plenty of backups ready.
     
  45. electronic

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    I’m cautiously optimistic about Coley. Though he doesn’t have a huge track record, he also doesn’t have a track record for failure at multiple stops like Marty’s boy.
     
  46. spydog

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    We were playing our 4th string RG down the stretch and you really couldnt even tell. Its incredible

    I like McClendon to be this years Mays that can play OT or OG, but yeah, gotta get 2 more OT's to go with Jones in 20
     
  47. electronic

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    This is a real question and not a snarky one. Is there anybody you know of who tore ACLs in consecutive years and then had a relatively healthy career?

    That would make me feel a lot better about Zeus.
     
  48. Jake Scott

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    Jones and Ratledge would be perfect.

    I am not sold on McClendon being able to play RT.

    After thinking about it more, I'm not so sure either guard position is locked up, Kindley included.
     
  49. Jake Scott

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    It was in different knees, wasn't it?
     
  50. spydog

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    Yep and I think you go get a hybrid guy like Mays/McClendon or a project like Truss to fill it out

    McClendon has great feet and he's strong as hell. He was really good in camp settings too. I think he's legit

    Hopefully Cleveland is healthy again. It worried me seeing him hobble around still at the end of the year when he was supposed to be healthy. Once again, Salyer was just so damn good when he did play and is the most talented interior guy we have. I dont know who's spot he would take, but I wouldnt be surprised if hes starting somewhere
     
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