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Discussion in 'TV Board' started by IT, Jun 14, 2009.
This actually does not need to happen
Pump the brakes D. Nobody said any of this. I said he wasn't "innocent" because he got addicted and turned snitch. Only thoughts from me when Wallace died was "damn what a pussy at least try to fight and get that gun." Bodie did what he was told to do. Game is the game.
But yea Wallace was redeemable if he would have followed through with his comeback plan to stay out of the game and go back to school or stayed at his grandmas. didn't like those crickets though
Gotcha. I still think that Wallace's actions were sort of child like. He didn't say 'let me snitch so I can get a better deal or not go to jail', he was just a kid that couldn't carry all that weight on his shoulders. He saw the gun and realized that his friends were going to kill him. The kid was only like 14 or 15 years old at the time
14 or 15. sheeeeit that's old enough to be a man in street years
Probably the worst analysis of the Wire that I've ever read.
Can't wait for your retort
Kid was innocent in comparison to the others. Dude was in the game because he had to be. He was book smarter than all the other kids & had potential in real life if he had a support system.
Kid was young and naive. Once he informs of Brandon's whereabouts at the video game place, then subsequently sees his abused and tortured body outside his house, he melts. He wasn't hard like the others. He went to drugs as a coping mechanism....not just because he wanted to be a junkie. He had money from the Bandon bounty and what D gave him. He tried to make himself right but was brought back down by his environment.
He snitched....fuck it. He was a scared 16 year old kid. He wasn't Bodie. He ended up getting got
Fuck Stringer Bell and Idris Elba
The game ain't for everybody. Shoulda stayed at Grandmas aka "a support system." But he didn't want that and came back and almost immediately got back in the game, which was the reason he melted to begin with... even when he had a semi-support system in D trying to get him to go back to school and stay away from it. This was long after his time to be young and naive. He had a chance to get a clean break and start over fresh with a family member that had a house and was far away from the heroin game. He chose to come back, knowing damn well what could happen to him after seeing it 1st hand with Brandon.
kid thought he was a lot tougher and cooler than he was. never knew how old they were in season 1 but if he was 16 he was at least a couple years older than all the kids that started at Cutty's gym and they weren't all scared little pussies... except Nayman who was smart enough to stay out when he got the chance, unlike Wallace
The game ain't for everybody. Bottom line. And I think, but could be wrong, that Wallace even acknowledged that it wasn't for him at some point before the conversation with D where he tried to be hard and all like "this is me right here"
You just described his innocence to it all.
I hate people that like Stringer Bell
He lost his image of innocence with me when he gave his hard ass "this is all me right here" speech to D when D was trying to protect him and keep him away from the shit that got him killed an episode or 2 later.
Pretty clearly he was just acting hard like Bode. He was always innocent but having grown up around it, he knew how to put on the act at least partially. I thought the "this is all me right here" speech actually made him more innocent in my mind because you could see he was trying to convince himself as much as he was D.
Yes. he was trying to hard to fit in. It wasn't in him and he broke and got killed.
anyone got a link to season 2? thanks
Michael K. Williams did the intro for NBA Countdown on ESPN and Bill Simmons acted like he was wiping a tear while Magic Johnson said, "that's my dude from The Wire! Great show." It was awesome.
Theres a great download on the pirate bay with all the seasons, including featurettes and commentaries.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
just finished season 2
after season 1 it was a bit of a letdown, i think the acting was superb, the story? meh. i do like how they are keeping some recurring characters and that will obviously go into season 3
it was more just going through the motions, season 1 was all new and interesting, it seemed like 2 was just a rehash with whites instead of blacks.. just meh
however, i heard 4 was the best, so lookin forward to it in the coming weeks
Season 2 is by far the worst season but imo is still a solid season.
Season 5 is the worst season
You will know the value of season two once you finish the series.
The correct order. But dammit I love 2.
I didn't think 5 was that bad
I didn't the first time I watched it. Second time? Loathed it.
Not knocking any season. I enjoyed them all and give 2 a lot more credit than most folks do. Just the ranking the order, but I like all 5 seasons.
1, 2, 4, 3, 5
Definitely going to have a re-watch of the series in the near future. We'll see how I feel about it the second go around.
The first time I was 3, 1, 4, 2, 5. But they were all pretty even. Second time through changed a lot for me.
Mannnn I just read the last 3 pages of this thread and I need to watch this show again
You're underestimating his innocence to all the other aspects of the situation. He left the country because the city was all he knew. The 'this is me' wasn't so much him trying to be hard, but him saying that it's all he knows and he doesn't know how to exist anywhere else. He truly thought that he could go back to normal at that point. Remember this is a kid who basically raised himself but is still just a kid. The whole point of his character was to show how the drug game swallows up kids like him. Those that are at heart good people in bad situations that don't really know much else other than that environment. Think about it. Wallace still played with toys, didn't know anywhere in the city outside of his immediate neighborhood, had a mother that didn't care about him, lived in an abandoned building, took care of other homeless kids, etc. But you have no sympathy for his situation at all? That's more cold hearted than Stringer
People who do not understand the greatness of Season 2 cannot appreciate the greatness of The Wire as a whole.
Verbal you keep saying he's a little kid. Where Eagles Dare said he was 16.
One of these is incorrect because they are mutually exclusive
And not many of those kids in the ghetto knew shit outside of their neighborhood/city. Bodie conversation on the way to Philly about how there are radio stations outside of Baltimore comes to mind
World goin one way, people another yo
The scene in that episode of season 4 when Chris starts beating the shit out of Michael's dad, the camera pans to Snoop and she's just standing there with her jaw dropped; it cracked me up
you didn't even give us time to get up in the house
I love her lines.
how my hair look, mayne?
She's awesome. One of my favorite Snoop lines in s4 is when they're leaving one of the vacants, right when they get out of the house she asks Chris if he's hungry and wants to get some Chinese
yeah, just splattered the dudes brains
"wan' so' chineez?"
I also like, "Too much talkin out here man. Niggas need to shut the fuck up, for real." Think it's S2E5 when Marlo sees that major crimes has backed off.
"This is 800 dollars!"
"Keep it, man. You earned that buck like a motherfucker."
Season 5 was easily the worst. McNulty's serial killer storyline was so un-Wire like. Season 2 is awesome and gets better with more viewings.
The last episode saved the season, IMO.
Also, has anyone seen the 3 prequal shorts? Didn't know they existed.
Have not, where would one find these?
They were apparently on the S5 DVD and Box Set.
then I have them
They are no that good, kind of corny.