Finally got the gf on board to watch which means the rewatch I've been trying to do for a while. Started season two tonight. I can't get enough of this show
It was like you could tell exactly what the writers were trying to do right there...and it still worked with devastating effectiveness
Embarked on a rewatch about a week ago. Finished season 1 this morning. I am always surprised how well this show ages. Obviously the technology is dated and even some of the realities of surveillance have changed, but it still does a great job at cutting to the heart of so many issues in the inner city. Really awesome show. I will never get over Wallace getting got :/
It's a cold ass world man I thought you said it was gettin warmer World goin one way, people another yo
Embarrassingly enough, I killed the whole series in a week. I was worried about the huge drop off from watching the Wire to watching other shows so I jumped right into the Sopranos. 1a and 1b for me
Oral history of the East-West basketball game from The Wire? Oral history of the East-West basketball game from The Wire. https://www.si.com/nba/2017/04/17/the-wire-oral-history-baltimore-basketball-nba
doing a rewatch. started about sunday before last. currently on S3ep6. liked the 1st season a lot more through this time still not a huge fan of S2 and still fucking hate ziggy S3 starts strong and stays strong
I've said it before and I'll say it again.... S3 and S4 are some of the best television to ever be written.
maaaaaan i absolutely love seeing Namond get fucked up. Toss up between him and Ziggy on who tries harder to look hard when they're a bitch on the inside. He's miserable in season 4
NSIS because A) it's a TV show and B) he disrespects every person that's trying to help him, calling them cunts/bitches/faggots and eventually gets his ass beat. Yes that is very enjoyable to see someone get what's coming to them. he's not even doing the "try too hard" bitch act in front of older corner boys to try and gain respect. he's doing it in front of his peers that know it's an act, see: Michael
I actually can't even remember the scene of him getting his ass beat so I could be talking out of my ass. I'm just going by my general memory which is yeah Namond was a knucklehead but I didn't wish ill will upon him because I kind of understood based on his background, with a "dragon lady" for a mom and a trigger man for hire for a dad
IIRC it happens more than once. I just saw the first scene where it happens outside of Cutty's gym. But I'm pretty sure it happens at least once more and Michael has to save his ass. Difference between "wishing ill will" on him and saying "that's what you get" after the fact. You paint his "background" as some kind of crutch for him when he's got it better off than literally all of his friends, who are living in poverty, raising their own siblings bc of drug addict parents (some that molest or beat them like michaels parents), or in foster care. he's got a better life than any of the other kids in S4. And he basically spits in the face of everyone that gives him advice of any kind, even his parents to an extent. And treats all his friends like shit most of the time, even though they go to bat for him when shit goes down (and he runs away like a bitch - piss balloon incident). It takes him getting his ass beat to realize how much of a POS he is and want to change, which is the good part of his story. But in S4 seeing someone shut his ass up with an ass whoopin does not get any sympathy.
Now on the other hand... Bubbles getting beat on in S4 makes me fucking rage. His story in S4 is fucking brutal to watch. Especially when that douchebag cop robs him when he asked for help after getting continually harassed by the crack head just watched that scene and it legitimately made me mad for a few minutes... amazing TV right there to get emotions out of you
It'd be rad if they did some kind of follow up to show what Michael became. I mean I can guess the basics but that kid was fucking hard
Dookie turning into Bubbles might have been the low point of the show for me emotionally. Worst I felt for anyone.
Some assuming involved obviously, but we kind of know what everyone became. Michael- Omar Pearlman- Phelan Carver - Daniels Marlo- Tried to be Stringer, ended up being Avon. Sydnor- McNulty/Lester Dukie- Bubbles Naymond- Colvin
Maybe, but the series ends with Michael robbing marlo's bank. It definitely makes it seem like he's the next Omar at the moment. Who knows what the future would hold, though.
First time we see Omar, he's kicking in the door of the stash house and shoots a guy in the leg. Last time we see Michael, he's kicking in the door of the rim shop and shooting Vinson in the leg. He's the new Omar, replacing him as the stick-up artist.
I didn't follow that closely but that makes sense. I went with Cutty because it seems like Michael is smart and knows compassion, I'd hope at some point he realized he was fucking up.
Yeah, that makes sense. I definitely think at some point Michael could realize the game wasn't for him anymore, like Cutty did.
Only ones I disagree with: Marlo - when did he ever try to be Stringer? IMO He was always Avon. Whole show he just killed people to show dominance, wanted his name to have fear and respect etc. Stringer only cared about money and in the end was more worried about respect from society and not on the streets. Marlo had Avon's mentality the whole time. King of the Streets (avon) vs. King of the City (stringer) Naymond - Colvin. Honestly don't think Naymond became anyone. Just a kid that bucked the drug nepotism cycle and realized he needed to do something else. Hell if anything I would say Naymond = Deangelo, just D got deeper into it before realizing he didn't have it in him/didn't want that life. I can buy Michael as Omar. I could also see the angle of him being a Cutty / Chris / Slim or any of the other "Top Muscle" guys that violence just comes natural to them.
I should've expounded on that, worded it poorly. At the end, Levy tried to turn him into Stringer. That meeting with all those people, legitimate ones with money and influence, was the life Stringer would have killed for. Levy tried to give it to Marlo, but Marlo was never interested. He wanted power, and to be on the streets like you said. He got Stringer's dream, and turned it down. Went back to the only thing he knew. So he had the life of Stringer forced upon him, but turned it down and became what he always was in Avon. As for Namond, I went with Colvin because as soon as he's with Bunny, Namond's out of the game for good. Like Colvin, who grew up around the people on the corners, Namond's got that same experience. With the education and progress he showed in his season 5 scene, I could see him getting educated, coming back to Baltimore and doing what Colvin did, working on the academic side, being able to relate to corner kids in a way others weren't. Or even in a lesser extent, Colvin got out of the cycle. Namond did too.
definitely seeing the transition for Michael in season 5 from starting out on a course to be Chris to being like a mix of Bodie/Omar starts out just caring about being hard and doing whatever soldier work he's told to do. then starts to realize that there are or should be rules/a code for killing
Agreed, I thought it was great insight as to why Omar always had such a beef with the drug dealers... kind of like payback for taking his innocence or some gay shit like that.
Just started a rewatch Wallace: So how do you get to be the king? D'Angelo Barksdale: It ain't like that. See, the king stay the king, a'ight? Everything stay who he is.
When Levy goes to pick up deangelo from the police station and stop him from writing the letter to the dead witness's family, he slaps him upside the head as they're walking out. I know "d" is softer than the others but would levy's ass really be slapping a gangster?
D also gives him a look like he was beat the fuck out of him if they weren't where they were at. They were on Levy's turf...not the corner
D is the only gangster on the show that Levy could slap and get away with it. He's by far the softest MFer in the game (not counting baby hoppers)
Just finished the first time through. Need to digest but just incredible, as expected. The number of characters they developed to the level of me caring about them is way more than any other show I remember.