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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by TrustyPatches, Jun 9, 2021.
Why do you work for this company?
Sounds great, how do I switch
because all jobs suck ass and I get paid well
just gonna ride it out until I can become a beekeeper
DM me and I’ll hook you up.
I think you are probably wrong though. All jobs aren't completely horrible if you are willing to sacrifice some income. No one is making you grind at an awful company to make a bunch of money.
Not true, Seavie!
Idk man I’ve had a decent variety of jobs in different fields and they all sucked ass
Every job I've had was comparably horrible to every other job I've had
But were they all with the goal of making a lot of money/financially driven? Everyone is different and I don't know your situation and how much money you have to have. But I think there's something out there you'd at the very least hate less.
my brother runs the pro shop of the local private course and I envy him all the time. I work out there in the summer and love it so much.
Bartending was fun, but I can't imagine trying to make a living at it.
I've thought about managing a pro shop or a sporting goods store. Really enjoyed working at those places in the past.
I used to bartend at a golf course and it was a fantastic job.
I know the numbers. Again though, there are terms that need to be defined for everyone to be on the same page. I don't think anyone is really interested in continuing the conversation though so I'm only responding and not really intending to keep this particular conversation alive.
My first job in high school was setting up and maintaining aquariums in doctors offices, rich people’s houses, etc. and it was the best. I might need to get back in that.
Best job I had was in college where I mostly rode around in a truck and listened to music all day. I made minimum wage and the job was unsafe as shit but the actual work wasn't awful
it doesn’t have anything to do with money but if I’m going to take a pay cut I want it to be something I know I’d love
only thing I can imagine being worse than hating your job is taking a pay cut and still hating your job
Being on time for work with enough time to hit up the coffee joint on the way UNTIL you remember they closed a road on your normal route to work and now you can make it to work on time but the coffee is a no go.
When that PE firm comes around, they definitely won’t care about you
You should keep having the conversation
Work inherently has some suck aspect to it, that's why they have to pay you to do it.
That said, some jobs are much better than others.
And a final thought, if your mindset is "all jobs suck" then they absolutely will. Sometimes you have to change your internal reality
You should look into being a mail man. My brother started a couple years ago and he loves it. Rides around all day listening to music and podcasts.
That grass cutting idea has me thinking of the off ramp from professional life now. Goal is now to buy a bait shop in a heavy fishing area like Chuck in Grump Old Men.
Have quite a few friends that made it from bartender to upper management and even Exec level that went back to bartending due to life enjoyment.
Too bad the internet and huge chains have ruined local joints.
it’s not a mindset you can really change once you can see through the cracks as Lyrtch stated last night
I mean god damn I wish I could live blissfully unaware like seavie or Grundy
Im not expecting them too. My buyout would be worthwhile and worth it at that point. If it never happens that’s fine too and we grow the company and hopefully I’m promoted to a VP role. That’s my goal anyway.
you could probably make a decent living off of it in the right area
This is a good post to me. What some people have been calling being oblivious I would call perspective.
I'd rather not have to work and parts of my job are bad, but I also realize I am pretty fortunate to like big parts of it. There are way worse ways to make a living.
Depends on where you are imo
FWIW we're in the process of putting together a surprise mid-year profit sharing dividend to our employees
You made the claim, so defining those terms is on you. That's how conversations work.
Understatement of the century.
They're starting a full re-eval of every aspect of the company and want to insert as much of their team as they can.
Obviously it's sector-determinant.
I'm also of the opinion that the quality of a lot of jobs are super dependent on the people you are working with.
I know, and I hate to bring it up because it's such a slippery slope. "Get a better attitude and pull yourself up by your bootstraps!"
Not trying to say that. Just the "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" thing. We see what we're expecting to see. Maybe you can find a job that isn't as soul sucking as the one you currently have
Blissfully unaware? I’ve had shit jobs in the past. I disagree though that all jobs suck. I just have a different mindset than you.
FIFY. A lot of jobs would be sweet if we were skilled laborers producing something. We're just watching everything get consolidated into conglomerates and eventually robots. Human factors aren't being considered.
Sounds appealing to me. I bet this job will be eliminated within a couple years though :/
Eventually there's only gonna be two choices, baron or serf. At least we're having fun in the shrinking middle ground for a while!
From my experience, the biggest difference between a good (or even tolerable) job and a bad one is your fungibility. If you're made to feel like you're valued, you'll enjoy it more. If you're treated like you're replaceable, it's going to suck.
Also relative self determination
You likely won't agree but you're fair enough to at least try to see my point of view, and have a meaningful conversation. Unlike others who simply tried to have a gotcha question. So sure I'll continue.
First we need to define Christian. Is that the world definition of people who simply say they believe in Christ? Or is that more of people who actually try to follow the bible? This is an entire conversation on its own. But you'll understand if I don't see everyone who simply calls themselves a Christian, but actually follows little to none of the bible as meeting that definition. So take that into consideration when I say most "Christians".
Same concept applies to all the different denominations and whether those are "Christian" or not. But again, that's its own different conversation. Some denominations on that list are way low in acceptance percentage.
Then also what does "accept" mean? Not to persecute people because of how they are? Not to shun them as second class citizens? To love them as Jesus would have? Ok sure that gets no argument from me. Or is it people are saying accept in the sense of they think it's something God is now somehow ok with, morally, and therefore the world should be too? I don't subscribe to that interpretation.
i really need to win the fucking lottery already
In what way is being homosexual morally wrong? Who is it hurting?
the mental gymnastics to think you are loving and accepting of someone while simultaneously thinking its ok to believe they will be tortured in hell for eternity for simply loving who they love is insane to me
That's the "no true Scotsman" logical fallacy, isn't it?
True, and I think a strong argument can be made that the denominations on that list that are "way low in acceptance percentage" also tend to be further removed from the Biblical Christ. If nothing else, they tend to be much younger denominations, no?
I think that there are a large number of Christians, under whatever definition you choose, who have concluded that there is no scriptural basis for anti-homosexuality. I understand that you're not going to agree with this, but there are translational/interpretational disagreements on the handful of verses used as a basis for the homosexuality = sin position. The only unequivocal condemnation of homosexuality in the Bible is Leviticus's recitation of pre-Christ Jewish laws, and what others of those are followed by modern Christians? Do you know anyone who abstains from shellfish?
And that God's not OK with it even though He made them that way
I’ve been hot on cold on my job for awhile. Just recently I made a rather big mistake but I got it resolved just before there were any major consequences for the company. Easily the biggest mistake I’ve made but it was directed by my manager, no negative consequences from it, totally owned up to it. My boss said had there been any negative consequences I would have been shit canned. 8 years and I was a hair away from getting canned on the spot for one mistake.
what did you do
This is all conversation worth continuing but I can't at the moment. I will once I'm able.