TMB Book Club Week 1: 11/22/63 by Stephen King

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  1. Arkie Proud

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  2. jorge

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    Spoilers? No Spoilers? You da cap'n
     
  3. Arkie Proud

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    Changed OP. I started this thread as a placeholder, intent on coming back and changing the OP with some info, but I wanted to look it up myself first. You caught me slipping.
     
  4. Dwight Schrute

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    Just finished the book tonight. Its excellent. Definitely in my top 3 favorite King books. Will expand my thoughts about it later tomorrow.
     
  5. Cawgs or Gie!

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    Anyone have ebook? I can has pm?
     
  6. TC

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    Why wouldn't he have researched stocks and invested in those instead of betting on sporting events :facepalm:
     
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  7. pennstate2012

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    My guess is that he thought there would be too much paper work for setting up an account, then having the paper trail to pay taxes on the income. Just a thought.
     
  8. Kevintensity

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    anyone else think a series on finding different "rabbit holes" and people going back into the different points of time at each location and trying to change events or kill people would be cool? like a time travelling james bond

    maybe something like that already exists :shrug:
     
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  9. colonelrascals

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    I'm only 42% through the book. I dont know if I will make it through
     
  10. Dwight Schrute

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    I was thinking along the lines of this as well. I thought King definitely hinted at that possibly more than once throughout the story.

    The Green Card man's explanation at the end of the novel definitely kept it a possibility too, but made it seem like huge events like the Kennedy assassination affected the world way too much and almost always negatively. But who knows.
     
  11. Arkie Proud

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    Open discussion for the early part of the book starts right now. Monday starts open discussion for the entire book AND the next book will be announced. Right now we have 30 votes with a tie for first place. If you haven't voted, please do so: http://poll.pollcode.com/sz48 (If you've already voted, please do not vote again) :)
     
  12. TC

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    The part of the story I didn't like
    is that the boy gave up looking for Happy after an hour. I mean he didn't put up posters or anything, he just sat on the porch and looked like a goon. Lady if your dog is lost you don't just look for an hour and call it quits, you get your ass out there and you find that fucking dog!
     
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  13. jorge

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    I don't remember this.
     
  14. BB3

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    :loldog:
     
  15. Arkie Proud

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    Open discussion is open.

    Next week's book is Ready Player One by Ernest Cline. PM me with new suggestions.
     
  16. bnob

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    Enjoyed the book. This was my first Stephen King book. I still had a lot of questions I would like answers to but that would of required a book double the size. I did enjoy the ending and was glad there was some closure with Sadie.
     
  17. Arkie Proud

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    One part I really liked was when Jake met some kids from his book "It".
     
  18. TC

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    When Sadie was about to tell him about "the broom"........did anyone else think it was gonna be more of a UT plunger type thing
     
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  19. Kevintensity

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    haha yeah exactly
     
  20. Dwight Schrute

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    Yeah I was like "oh no I know where this is going...."

    and then I was like "everything went better than expected"
     
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  21. laxjoe

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    Been a while since I finished the book but I'm glad you guys chose this one as I really liked it. Thoughts on the two storylines (Sadie and his friends vs his hunt for Oswald)? I remember liking the Oswald parts a little less than I did the Sadie storyline. Thought King did a great job developing a the characters in the novel.

    I wish I could discuss the book in more detail but i now longer have the book (it was my art real book ill ever read) and, like I said its been a while since I finished.
     
  22. LKRFN88jp

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    I definitely disliked the Oswald stuff. I was so invested in everything with Sadie and the town. Loved the play even. And the Oswald stuff felt like meat and potatoes, and that's it. Didn't really have anything beyond the basics, so I really wanted it to get back to the small town stuff.
     
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  23. jorge

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    The story was really more a love story than anything in hindsight.
     
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    Hated the ending
     
  25. jorge

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    Which part of it?
     
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    Hated the cop out of "well saving JFK ruined everything. The economy crashed, blah blah blah. Explain to me what the chain of events were that made saving him a bad thing. I truly enjoyed the book until the cop out ending.

    Mind you, I read this book about thirty books ago, so I don't remember the actual details of the ending I hated, just that the ending ruined a very enjoyable book for me.
     
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  27. Arkie Proud

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    I hated the ending could be the motto of Stephen King books.

    Also, you don't need to spoiler anything about the book anymore.
     
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  28. TC

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    It did give somewhat of the chain of events I though :idk: Don't have the book in front of me but it said Kennedy was president, then this guy, then this guy, MLK was still assasinated, this was the first nuke that was dropped, etc
     
  29. RonBurgundy

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    Not reading shit for spoilers but I started this book today on recommendation by LKRFN88jp . Into Part 2 and already wanting to read more to find out what happens. Can I post spoilers/running read along in this thread or not cool?
     
  30. Arkie Proud

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    Oh yeah. As a group, we finished this months ago so, in here, it's safe to say anything you want. Glad you're reading it, it's one of King's best, IMHO.
     
  31. Gin Buckets

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    Instead of Hyperion, I'm reading this... Going to scoop up Hyperion another time. Love the beginning.
     
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  32. Gin Buckets

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    Just finished.... I'm spoilering for those that may revisit this book like I did.

    Really enjoyable read and I like the idea of the book as a whole. Got a little annoyed with the Sadie parts, but that's ok.

    Additional annoyances:

    I didn't like how the world literally went to shit when he went back. I also didn't like how it affected earthquakes and shit. I think he could have come up with something a bit more clever that was also far worse. I also didn't like how the past was obdurate. I wonder if a there was a huge fatal bus crash on the way to see Kennedy that day in Dallas in reality, etc etc. Like come on. I'm ok with making it difficult, like I was ok with the whole Roth thing, but didn't like the things that probably didn't happen the first time around simply because history knew his intentions.

    Also... When he went back, saw how shitty everything was after he saved Kennedy to erase everything he should have literally jumped right back into the future, then researched Sadie online before running past the green card man. Seems a milllllion times more efficient, and what any rational human being would do.

    I also didn't like how easy the FBI made it for him to "get away" that seemed pretty unrealistic. I liked the parts with the FBI, but the idea of him just "disappearing" seemed too easy.

    Finally, minus the above annoyances I really did enjoy the book. It was definitely one I would qualify as "hard to put down" because I was constantly interested.
     
  33. The Blackfish

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    James Franco to Star in 11/22/63 Posted: February 12th, 2015

    Hulu, Warner Brothers and Bad Robot have announced that James Franco will star in the nine-episode television adaptation of 11/22/63.

    Adapted by Bridget Carpenter and set to run exclusivinly on Hulu, the event series will be Executive Produced by Stephen King, JJ Abrams, Bridget Carpenter and Bryan Burk. James Franco is also slated to produce for the series.


    Hulu Series Director & Additional Casting Announced Posted: April 7th 2015

    The Hulu original series 11/22/63 - from J.J. Abram's Bad Robot Productions, acclaimed author Stephen King, executive producer/writer Bridget Carpenter and Warner Bros. Television — has cast several principal characters:

    Chris Cooper (Al Templeton) - The irascible owner of Al’s diner, a mentor/friend to Jake. His appeal to save Kennedy sends Jake on his incredible mission. (IMDB)

    Sarah Gadon (Sadie Dunhill) - Sadie is the luminous, sharp librarian in 1960s Jodie, Texas. She falls in love with Jake, unaware of his double life. (IMDB)

    Cherry Jones (Marguerite Oswald) - Lee Harvey Oswald’s mother. She is as needy and difficult as her infamous son. (IMDB)

    Daniel Webber (Lee Harvey Oswald) - One of the most discussed figures in American history and an enigma even to himself. (IMDB)

    George MacKay (Bill Turcotte) - A young, guileless bartender from 1960s Kentucky, Bill becomes Jake’s ally.(IMDB)

    Lucy Fry (Marina Oswald) - Lee Harvey Oswald’s Russian wife. She is a knockout and challenged to make her way in a foreign country with her unpredictable husband. (IMDB)

    Leon Rippy (Harry Dunning) - A kind, soft-spoken and damaged janitor at Jake’s school in 2015; his traumatic early life in the 1960’s has a surprising impact on Jake. (IMDB)

    Academy Award winner Kevin Macdonald (IMDB) has also signed on to direct and executive produce the first two hours of the nine-hour event series. Based on Stephen King’s best-selling 2011 novel published by Simon & Schuster imprint Scribner, 11/22/63 follows high school English teacher Jake Epping (previously announced James Franco - IMDB), who travels back in time to try to prevent the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas on the fateful date in American history.
     
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  34. TC

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    The chicks they've chosen to play Sadie and Marina look suitably hot. I approve
     
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  35. LKRFN88jp

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    Really hope it's one season and then done. No need to draw it out.
     
  36. Rebelution

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  38. Truman

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    Just finished this bad boy. This is a dumb analogy but to me, King books are like broadway shows. I always bitch about having to go/read them, complain they're too long while in the middle of it. By the time it's done, I ended up enjoying it. This was no different. I dont know that I hated the ending, but it certainly wasn't satisfying. Right now I rate it a 7.5. Ask me again tomorrow it will probably be something different. Gonna have to let it marinate a bit.

    He needed quick money, not long investments. However, I would have brought stock info too


    Rebelution do you still need this book?
     
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  39. The Blackfish

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    Honestly this was one of King's better endings iyam
     
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    I haven't read a ton of King. Mostly because my first introduction to him was the bad TV mini series of the 90s that I just had no interest in. It was also before I knew that one of my favorite staples of my childhood, Stand by Me, was based off a King novel.

    So mostly incorrectly Ive had this aversion to reading his books that I just cant seem to get over. TBH the only reason I read this was mostly because it's going to be a mini series, I really enjoy reading source material before I watch. Also how well received it was on TMB.

    On the flip side, I dont think I'll ever read Armada because how ill received on TMB
     
  41. LKRFN88jp

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    Such a big fan of this book. Agree with The Blackfish on the ending, at least of the King books I've read. Looking forward to the show for sure.
     
  42. Truman

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    Show looks great and casted well. Big fan of Franco (I feel like its a thing to hate him). Noticed on the imdb that Deke isnt casted. I loved his character. Sucks he seems to be omitted from the show :tebow:
     
  43. Rebelution

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    Nah read it awhile back, thanks though.
     
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  45. The Blackfish

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    So good
     
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    Finished yesterday

    Man, I loved this book. I was reading at a normal pace for the first half, then I finished the second half in probably two days.

    I really don't have many gripes. The book hit on most every note with me. Just a few thoughts:
    1. I thought the inclusion of Derrry, while a nice bone for the folks who've read King before, wasn't particularly necessary. It seemed a bit forced, though it played its part.
    2. The Jimla stuff was typical King, and the payoff was a bit flat.
    3. I actually liked the alternate future. The radiation sores kind of made me think of The Dark Tower, in a way. I thought he spent an appropriate amount of time there (i.e., half a chapter).
    4. I liked the bittersweet ending. The strength of the writing about the relationship between Jake and Sadie was, in my view, the strongest part of the novel. It almost took me by surprise because it took a few hundred pages for Sadie to even be introduced as a character.
    5. The amount of research that must have went into this novel hurts my brain to think about.
    Looking forward to starting the miniseries on Hulu.
     
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  47. prerecordedlive

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    This book emotionally drained me. God damn.
     
  48. TimJimothy

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    Just finished this book. Loved it.

    Is the tv series worth paying for? It's like $15 on amazon prime.
     
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  49. Truman

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    The series was good. Just do a free trial on Hulu for a month and watch it.
     
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    Yes, it’s a good adaptation
     
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