TMB Weightlifting Thread: Learn to Swim

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  1. Simon Templar

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    Ok this is probably a stupid question but when you guys are deading this much are you using hooks? My fucking grip strength always gives out before the rest of the movement.
     
  2. Capstone 88

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    I can’t speak for Killy Me Please but bigjrock and I don’t get to use straps in meets so we have to make sure our grip can hold on. If you’re not competing I think it’s fine to use straps. Only reason I would try to not use them is a good grip leads to bigger firearms, but that may not matter.
     
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  3. Killy Me Please

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  4. righty

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    One of the two most important muscle groups in the body. They matter, buddy.
     
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  5. Capstone 88

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    Forearm curls & calf raises 7x/week
     
  6. HOOSINSC

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    i like the air of superiority i get from walking up to the bar and lifting it without straps. also i like using chalk
     
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  7. Simon Templar

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    I mean I pull 5x5 @365 but it seems like every time I go over that I lose my grip down the line. I’m only 5’7 180 though so I feel it’s at least kinda respectable.
     
  8. Capstone 88

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    Hold the last rep on those sets of 5 for 10+ seconds. That’s the best way to train your deadlift grip
     
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  9. DuffandMuff

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    Pulled 225 yesterday at the office gym. Feel great.

    Will probably put up 70lb dbs on incline this afternoon to let the coworkers know what’s up.
     
  10. Gunners

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    1 grip exerciseI love is doing a 1 arm barbell hold by my side. Can’t balance 135 yet, do a bit lower and great forearm work
     
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  11. HOOSINSC

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    there were like 32 RDL variants in tonights lift. my grip was shot and i did not try the weight flip
     
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  12. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    It’s normal to have your DL outpace your squat right?
     
  13. Capstone 88

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    For the most part. There’s a point where you get so heavy the squat will outpace the deadlift, but it’s in the 300+ range
     
  14. Stone Cold Steve Austin

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    Due to grip restrictions?
     
  15. Capstone 88

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    That and hard to get into a strong position because of a gut are usually the main 2 reasons
     
  16. Gunners

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  17. bigjrock

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    Ah...the Ed Coan move. I did that when my grip was a limiting factor.
     
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  18. LetItSoak

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    For rubber floor tiles in my garage is 1/2" thick enough?
     
  19. Majic44

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    Never really posted in here but thought I would see if I could get some suggestions.

    I have been doing pretty much the same workout routine off and on for the last 2-3 years. gets my overall strength up but I never seem to see a breakthrough or see much change in my muscle tone.

    Since I pretty much am able to stay at my desired weight (205-210) I would really like to get more toned.

    Any of you gents have a site or workout of some sort you could suggest to change things up?
     
  20. Capstone 88

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    What are your goals? Strength or leaning out/getting shredded?
     
  21. Majic44

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    both?

    but to answer, I would like to keep my strength, maybe improve slightly but nothing crazy. but more so just get more lean/shredded (dont think I will ever be shredded but get more definition)
     
  22. Capstone 88

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    Ok cool. That definitely helps. To start, I’d say look at Juggernaut’s AI Powerbuilding program. It’s pretty cheap and I think that’s what you’re looking for a mix of lifting heavy and hitting volume. If you’re not wanting to pay, I’d look up Renaissance Periodization. They have some great YouTube videos on how to structure training for each muscle group and it’s really informative. They also have some templates for sale that you’d probably get a lot out of too.

    After that just really focus on diet. If you want to lean up a little you probably need to shoot for eating 250-500 cals a day to lose some body fat. You can still eat at maintenance calories where your weight won’t change, but maybe look at exactly what you’re eating and change that up a bit with macros and the timing of food.
     
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  23. Capstone 88

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    hensleya
     
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  24. Majic44

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    good info, thank you
     
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  25. MORBO!

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    Yea, I'm learning the hard way that you really can't do both at the same time. You're either cutting or you're getting stronger. Like my lifts have gotten a little heavier over the past year, but not noticeably so. I have, however, gone from like 21% body fat down to like 14% right now. Slow progression, but I'm not doing anything serious with my diet other than just trying to avoid eating really shitty too often.

    If you're happy with your strength/size, then yea, cut those calories and start cutting. I usually do any bulking during the late fall/early winter.
     
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  26. Majic44

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    what did you change with your workouts to help with this?

    I am fine with my strength staying the same if I could cut, just what workouts to do that I am clueless on.
     
  27. MORBO!

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    So when I started getting back into lifting, I just did a StrongLifts 5x5 program (hate shield engaged) to get myself back in the saddle. I had never really done deadlifts or squats or anything like that even when I was playing baseball. I just did leg press and shit like that. Well, I learned that my hamstrings and glutes were pathetic. So I did that for like a year or so then made a switch to a GZCLP kind of program and stayed on that for a year or so.

    At this point, I've learned enough that I'm taking a lot of these concepts and created my own schedule. I had to make some changes because I also do a lot of running (double hate shield engaged), and I got tired of my legs just always feeling like they were shot to hell.

    So I'm lifting 3x per week, running 3x per week, and I have one rest day. I'll also usually pull a two a day once or twice a week and play tennis in the evenings with the neighborhood dudes.

    Honestly, I think I'm doing too much, but I'm having fun and it's really helping my anxiety/depression...so yolo.
     
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  28. Majic44

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    3 days a week is my ultimate goal as well. I typically do other activities on my off days like you.

    probably about to sound like an idiot, but what is GZCLP?
     
  29. MORBO!

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  30. MORBO!

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    And seriously, don't worry about asking questions like this. When I started posting in here, I was functionally starting at zero. Like I knew how to lift weights, I had a general idea of what lifts to do, variations, all that stuff. But I didn't know anything about current workout plans/systems that people are using.
     
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  31. Majic44

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    I appreciate that and the link.

    This is actually something I came across todaywhen researching this:

    https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/6-week-workout-program-to-build-lean-muscle

    Seemed to fit what I was looking for but wasnt sure.
     
  32. nofatchildren

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    Why not just turn this into a suitcase deadlift?
     
  33. Capstone 88

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  34. Majic44

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    thats mainly my plan.

    plan to focus more so on getting all reps done and having them be quality reps.

    adding weight can come later
     
  35. Gunners

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    I push my CNS pretty hard as it is, only want it as grip work
     
  36. Gunners

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    I like the idea of holding the last rep on deads longer, gonna implement that
     
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  37. MORBO!

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    Yea, perfect your form best you can before you start going to failure. I made that mistake on my squats and fucked up my back a little. Better now, but it sucked.
     
  38. hensleya

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    Yes. Which are you going with? 3/4” is preferred, but 1/2” is fine.
     
  39. LetItSoak

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    3/4" ones they have at Dicks for ~$30
     
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  40. LetItSoak

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    Looking at the Rogue Echo bar and Rogue cast iron plates as well. Would the cast iron be close enough to listed weight to be fine?
     
  41. bigjrock

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    Holy crap, whoever said that casein is thick ain’t playing.
     
  42. hensleya

    hensleya I Pick Things Up and Put Them Down

    There will be some discrepancies, but nothing too crazy. You’ll be fine. Some people weigh they’re plates and then write the weight on them. That way they can load accordingly to get most accurate weight per side.
     
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  43. LetItSoak

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    I'm mostly going to deadlift and do some bar work at home with the goal of getting in 1 more workout per week than otherwise would have so a little discrepancy won't be a big deal. Long term I want to add a folding rack and bench but for now I think it will be sufficient
     
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  44. HOOSINSC

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    it's made from egg. figured it was essentially custard.
     
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  45. Capstone 88

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    Coaches hate me for this tip!!!!

    If you use your stupid fucking legs during fucking deadlifts the fucking weight will move much fucking easier than it would without creating tension and not using your fucking legs. God damn.
     
  46. Gunners

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    After a week of pizza and burgers; haven't decided to go on full diet yet but gonna try cutting out bread for at least a month. Chicken, steak, rice, potatoes, eggs, veggies will be 90% of my food. Hopefully a lot less booze as well.

    Did nothing but pushups and some band work while out of town on my deload week, hopefully tomorrow goes well.
     
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  47. NoNatty

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    yeah it’s inedible to me.
     
  48. MORBO!

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    I feel like it used to be just shitty at mixing in, but not terribly thick.
     
  49. Capstone 88

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    I never could throw casein in a shaker bottle and get it to mix. Always needed the blender for it.
     
  50. Capstone 88

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    The belt squat is here. I woefully underestimated how big this fucking box is
     
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