TMB Weightlifting Thread: Learn to Swim

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  1. NoNatty

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    After my body was feeling like shit (just aches and pains everywhere) I've been doing almost all hypertrophy workouts for the past month and it feels great.

    Dear diary.
     
  2. TLAU

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    C-4 ripped. if you can handle the thermo's in it this is a good one. no creatine
     
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  3. Capstone 88

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    CJ Cummings just Clean & Jerked 185kg/407.8lbs at University Nationals. Holy fuck.

     
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  4. Heavy Mental

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    His bar speed is outlandish
     
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  5. Capstone 88

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    Bar speed, shoulder/t-spine mobility, general strength. Love watching the kid lift.
     
  6. Iron Mickey

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    Started doing Crossfit again. Hate me, but I missed it.
     
  7. Capstone 88

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    You also can't see it in that video but a side view show Pyrros Dimas cheering him on. Pretty cool moment.
     
  8. Capstone 88

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    I'm bored at work so here's Ed Coan with an easy 975lb squat/567lb bench/710lb deadlift for a 2,252lb total. Now I know what you're thinking "but Capstone 88, Ed can pull over 901lbs why did he only deadlift 710lbs?" Well, he tore his bicep 3 weeks prior and still pulled 710. He's the greatest ever for a reason.

     
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  9. Kevintensity

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    Every time I see a video with a guy standing under that much weight I think it's going to end up being a surprise shocker video with a leg snapping or something
     
  10. colonel_forbin

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    Time to finally get my shoulder checked out. My workouts have been shit for like 6 months because of it but I've just been putting it off because I've been so busy as work.
     
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  11. MoJo

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    I've walked away just to do something different for a while but I always wind up getting bored and going back.
     
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  12. Kevintensity

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    Im thinking about checking it out after I do this strong lifts for a couple more months
     
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  13. Dudley Dawson2

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    Anyone know of any good "cheaper" quality junior bars? Don't feel like dropping $175+ for a bar that won't get a ton of use?

    As an aside, a good, cheap, Cap barbell is available on amazon prime for $109. We have a couple of these and for the price, they really can't be beat. Ours are still going strong after 7 years of pretty good use.
     
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  14. Capstone 88

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  15. Bill the Butcher

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    Dmaa bought to be banned again. Time to buy up and sell it on eBay in 6 months. Already being taken off the shelves.

    I did this with craze before and make like 1200
     
  16. TYdeFan05

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    Where do you live?
     
  17. Bruce Wayne

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  18. hensleya

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    You can check out the OSO junior bar.
     
  19. Where Eagles Dare

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    I've seen this a few times on IG and laughed....

     
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  20. Dudley Dawson2

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    Saw that, but it has a maximum loadable weight of 50lbs and my 7 year old can probably deadlift that already. I went with a CAP aluminum training bar that is loadable up to 150lbs which I could also use to start training some oly lifts again.
     
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  21. Sammy Meatballs

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    Had my hip arthroscopy done yesterday. My gains have already disappeared

    Dear diary
     
  22. Tony Ray Bans

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    Question for you guys who have done all the supplement research: are BCAAs worth it? I used to take those and whey with my shakes after workouts but I ran out of BCAAs and havent purchased a new supply. Are those going to make a significant impact?
     
  23. Iron Mickey

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    total anecdotal nonsense: I drink them during my workout and find that I 'feel' less sore

    placebo game strong? maybe. magic supp for gainz? maybe.
     
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  24. Dudley Dawson2

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    Seems like 'most' scientifically oriented lifters/trainers think they are worthless, especially if you eat half decently and are getting adequate protein anyway.

    I would say any supplement, other than whey and creatine, will not make a significant impact on anyone's training. But there is plenty of bro science that will tell you anything you want to hear.

    I'll also add, the elephant in the room is gear. We all know that gear works and it's scientifically proven. But all of us want so badly to think that some supplements can mimic gear (without the side effects) and they simply don't. Sure, maybe there is a supplement that has some substance that might improve 'your' body a miniscule percentage. Good luck finding that out.

    Gear talk is pretty open in my gym as we are weightlifting club and we all know each other. Some oly lifters, some extremely strong guys (we just had a 198lber go 680, 470 and 700). Is he on gear? What do you think...with those numbers? Of course.
     
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  25. Iron Mickey

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    nailed it
     
  26. Capstone 88

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    The shit I hate about gear is people that hate on enhanced people when they compete in untested fans. When everyone is on gear there isn't a competitive advantage. "Larry Wheels benched 650! Steroids!" No shit
     
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  27. bigjrock

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    Just listened to a podcast with the guy who runs Examine.com and he said that the only group that may benefit from BCAAs are folks who workout fasted.
     
  28. Iron Mickey

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    should add that I do crossfit in the morning fasted

    maybe it isn't all bro science, but I'm not sure yet
     
  29. lhprop1

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    As with Mickey, I only have anecdotal evidence. Until last year, I didn't take any supplements other than fish oil. A couple of my friends own Xtreme Formulations www.xfmuscle.com and they gave me some CytoFuse to try. They said to take it during training because it would help me maintain my level of training for longer. I tried it and, by golly, it does what it says. Placebo? Maybe, I dunno. I just know that I've won 2 of my last 3 contests and took 2nd in the other and I was drinking that stuff during those contests.

    This x1000. There aren't any tested strongman feds in the US. I know that. I never bitch or grumble about it, though. It just makes winning and being natty that much sweeter.
     
  30. Upton^2

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    yeah the lean gains guy says to drink BCAAs in the morning if you do fasted training
     
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  31. Killy Me Please

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    Bcaa promote protein synthesis while not consuming calories.
     
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  32. Oshie

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    What happened to Fudd
     
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  33. lhprop1

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    He got so swole that he exploded. RIP in peace, Fudd
     
  34. Where Eagles Dare

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    He's in the addiction thread. Think he's currently in rehab
     
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  35. Oshie

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    Good luck Fudd your tips and encouragement were great years ago when I was under a different account.

    Trying to get 2-3 days a week in of compound lifts (3x5, Phrak's Greyskull style) while training for a jiu jitsu tourney in two months. The combo of slowly cutting weight down and having JJ practice every weeknight has made it pretty tough to drag my ass out of bed early AM and get through a routine.

    Anyone here experienced with supplemental / sport specific training while on a cut and practicing often?

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  36. Dudley Dawson2

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    You are currently engaged in a training fallacy. Cutting weight for a different sport and training while simultaneously strength training most likely does both a disservice. You aren't going to progress much, if any, in strength training (while cutting) unless you are a total newbie and/or obese (unless of course you are on gear). You will be lucky to stay at your current strength level with so much JJ and weight cut. It's the yin and yang of training. Also why bodybuilders have separate cut and bulk phases cause your body competes against itself when you try to do too much at the same time. Just don't get discouraged when you have a lot of off days while lifting on even when rolling. And make sure you taper off the strength training prior to your JJ competition, ie, be lifting as heavy as possible now, but taper it off as you get closer to tourney time.

    Your strength training routine isn't bad. I'd try to go as heavy as you can the farthest away from your JJ training as you can. You need as much recovery time as possible before/after JJ. If it were me and I were too damn tired to lift, I'd at least focus on squatting/deadlifting and skip everything else. If only one exercise, I'd deadlift for your JJ preparation.

    Edit: I should add, I don't know your age. You can, if properly fed and rested, increase strength while participating in season in your sport (like ages 18-25 or so) but it takes strict dedication in terms of training, diet, rest, etc.
     
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  37. Killy Me Please

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    greyskull is just another knockoff SS program. You need an inter-adv program that helps you maintain strength on a cut. you cant do all 3 at once. Its suicide. all LP programs will hit a wall. On a cut youll hit a brick wall. If jitz is your focus just do something similar to 531 or a strength base that doesnt require you to increase weight every week.
     
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  38. Killy Me Please

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    and pm me your email i give you a library of stuff to check out.
     
  39. Oshie

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    Makes a lot of sense even though I'd love to be moving up in strength while down in weight and up in JJ skill. Unfortunately, not realistic, but I appreciate the feedback. 5/3/1 is probably a good fit.

    I'm sitting at 193 lbs and not enough strength to go against the killers that cut down to the 190 weight class, so it was either a) cut down to 180 or b) gain strength and remain at 190. If I can cut down while retaining strength that's ideal, and cutting down while increasing strength does sound unrealistic.
     
  40. Killy Me Please

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    A lot of jitz guys had this revelation. They knew they had better technique but admitting someone was just stronger was unheard of. Once they dedicated to a legit strength program they immediately realized the benefits. kettlebells are pretty popular with jitz because of the conditioning, strength and flexibility they can get from them so I'd check them out.

    531 has the 4 basics and you decide the ancillaries. If you're feeling like you're a burning out the deload week will feel like heaven https://blackironbeast.com punch in your numbers and go.
     
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  41. NoNatty

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    I use BCAAs and HMB for fasted training. Like others have said I think it helps, but it may just be placebo.
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  42. Capstone 88

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  43. Hoss Bonaventure

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    I lift at 5am and I wake up and eat a protein bar and lift with bcaa in my water jug. I love it.
     
  44. Killy Me Please

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    Brad pilon who pioneered IF agrees with that but others don't. So who knows.
     
  45. Randy Bobandi

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    Just joined the gym. Started with my first ever leg day. Might be sleeping on the couch tonight, fuck stairs right now.
     
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  46. Capstone 88

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    Larry Wheels fell on his 3rd squat :(. He's ok though. Belkin wins best overall with a 599 Wilks
     
  47. Chicago Seminole

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    So what's a good workout for a "cut"

    I did candito periodiztion last year, switched to linear program In December.

    Realized I was fat (Oh wait that wasn't 12 pounds of muscle I gained) 6 weeks ago, Started doing 30 minutes of cardio after lifts, plus 15 miles of running a week. Burned off the fat I gained over winter, like 10-13 lbs but am losing strength rapidly now, I hit the wall mentioned above.

    I can't really do low rep squats/deadlifts cuz lower back/knee problems. High rep doesn't hurt. Needs to drop 6 more pounds for sex symbol status but seems like body prefers burning muscle instead of fat at this point.

    Also, since I'm limited on deadlifts/squats I started doing more abs/core work. Mostly ab circuits and the "foundation" lower back stuff. Are farmers walks good for core?

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  48. Capstone 88

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    It's important to keep volume up when you're in a caloric deficit. That'll maintain the most amount of muscle. So really just do any program that keeps the volume high. Sets of 6+
     
  49. Killy Me Please

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    Wait till tomorrow. RIP.
     
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  50. Randy Bobandi

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    I'm sore, but overall my legs feel much better today. Did a ton of stretching yesterday.