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  1. goblue31602

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    You mean you don't have a drum tech out there in a lab coat with a tape measure testing the drums and adjusting them a millimeter to get them in the perfect spot? I thought everyone had that.
     
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  2. TC

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    I just want a sound man who knows when all my solos are (even slightly important quick fills) and jacks my channel up and down in perfect sychrony so I don't have to step on any footswitches
     
  3. Fidelio

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  4. ryno23

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    just got tickets for $25 plus fees. not a bad deal
     
  5. nexus

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    COA?
     
  6. ryno23

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    Huh
     
  7. nexus

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    Which show?
     
  8. ryno23

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    tonight in birmingham.
     
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    Apparently they announced tonight that the album will be released August 30th
     
  10. Joe_Pesci

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    I will give it an honest listen. I promise nothing more.
     
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    Thank you Joe. They're going to be thrilled to hear that.
     
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  12. Joe_Pesci

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    This showed up in my YouTube feed

     
  13. Oranjello

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    Tonight was fun. Been wanting to see Tool for about a decade and glad I finally did. :respek:
     
  14. nexus

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    Intolerance?
     
  15. Oranjello

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    Yeah. Don’t know lots of Tool song names, but the “lie cheat steal” clued me in and plus some people were really, really into it.
     
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  16. Oranjello

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    I’m a live music fan who was there for the show, and not necessarily a Tool fan per se. Enjoy their albums, but wanted to see what the hype was about. Next time, I’ll make sure to get better seats.
     
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  17. Joe_Pesci

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    Better seats as in closer?

    Already posted several times but:
    One thing that is (was?) awesome about Tool is that the great seats aren't all clustered as close as you can get on the floor. When I saw them in 2007, the stage was behind where one hoop would be if there was basketball in the arena. My seat was dead center behind where the opposite hoop would have been, a few rows up from the floor. And it was awesome. Mainly because at that time there were pretty much zero spotlights on any band member; they just played in front of this football field-sized projection screen.
     
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  18. Dildo Dawgins

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    Just got back home from the show. Setlist was as expected. Invincible starts slow but it builds and is pretty awesome. I don't like the other new one as much - it sounds like a bunch of different lateralus songs jammed into one really unoriginal and not exciting. They did a few new visual things and made some nuanced changes to some staple songs that were cool.
     
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  19. Joe_Pesci

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    Is the big ending on Invincible dope in person? The bootlegs from people's phones or whatever sound kind of underwhelming

    (especially in light of that Soen album)
    :twocents:
     
  20. Dildo Dawgins

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    Yeah it was the highlight of the show. The beginning is slow but the buildup and end were great. I watched the videos from FL show too and was underwelmed, but it was great live.

    The venue also had really good sound for mid sized arena that's almost 50 years old. We got some nosebleeds off StubHub for $35, but were straight away from stage. If I'd paid face value with fees then I may not have liked the show as much.

    The visuals for the new songs were good, and they added something to the stage that I had never seen them do before that was awesome but only did for a few songs.

    I was disappointed we didn't get some type of No Quarter or Third Eye opener but Intolerance was cool.
     
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  21. Shiggityshwo

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    Joe I tried Soen, I really did. Seems like there's always a fine line between stuff I enjoy and meh.
     
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    yeah closer with a better view of the visuals
     
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  23. goblue31602

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    I noticed Sweat disappeared off of last night's set list. :feelsbadman:
     
  24. Joe_Pesci

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    If you're looking for someone who sounds like Maynard, then yeah, you're going to be looking for a long time. I still haven't found anyone with that sort of honey-smooth regular singing voice, while also being able to do the "hard" rock vocals, let alone the cookie monster vocals on Ticks and Leeches. The internet is telling me that his voice sounds so good because he sits somewhere between a tenor (Dio, Ozzy, Hetfield) and a baritone (Johnny Cash, Chris Cornell, and my own favorite Mikael Akerfeldt).

    I hate giving too much credit to the guy who by most accounts shows up and writes cryptic lyrics based on the way that the fully-debugged instrumentals sound to him. What I love is the big prog-rock climaxes that you get from the core members of the band, i.e. Adam Jones, Danny Carey, and Justin Chancellor -- with obvious influence from Justin Chancellor. I didn't realize Chancellor was one of the main writers on Aenima.

    As far as Soen goes, listen to the first 2:40 and then from 4:30 on and tell me that isn't a Tool clone in the best way
     
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  25. Joe_Pesci

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    Shiggityshwo Soen is a pretty straightforward Tool-clone. It's similar in the way that Gwynbleidd is a straight-up Opeth clone in the best way. If anything it means that a song like Invincible isn't going to cut it out'chea in 2019 unless there is some dope guitar stuff that's lost in the bootleg version :idk:



     
  26. Shiggityshwo

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    I'll check those out in a bit, it had nothing to do with the vocals though, I thought they were fine. Like I said though, and I feel it's especially true with prog/metal, there are tons of acts you'd think I'd like based on my tastes, but some quality just ends up being off for me to the point that it just doesn't grab my attention.

    Also I'm not really sure I need another Tool sounding band in my life anyway, they're more of a novelty I revisit maybe once or twice a year.
     
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    D'Amour helped write/had a hand in Stinkfist, Eulogy, Pushit, Anema and possibly H. JC's influence on the album was relatively minor compared to what they've done since but he is responsible for the transcendental bass line in 46 & 2 and thusly deserves icon status.
     
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  28. TC

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    I always liked Chevelle for my Tool lite purposes
     
  29. Shiggityshwo

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    Alright Joe I'm giving Lotus my undivided attention this time with headphones on and I *may* have been wrong, your persistence appears to be paying off here
     
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  30. Shiggityshwo

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    There is a touch of sappiness similar to what you get with Steven Wilson's work at times that'll take some getting used to, but it's not really a problem. Like the subtle keys/organ throughout.
     
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  31. goblue31602

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    Fantastic show tonight, ended up sitting basically side stage which ended up being way better than expected. Their sound was still perfect over there and we had a great view of Danny and Maynard. 21957.jpeg
     
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    as far as contemporary vocalists I would say Mike Patton has a similar ability to be in two entirely different ranges and then add accents or catactures on top of it.

    But between Faith No More and Mr Bungle youre still talking very different music than Tool/Maynard.
     
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  33. Joe_Pesci

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    Maybe vocals but outside of that :idk:

    and Chevelle was a band that I loved growing up
     
  34. Joe_Pesci

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    I feel the same way. Undertow holds up much better for my own listening tastes than the other albums as I've gotten more into prog stuff, but they were my "gateway" into prog music. Similar to the way that Metallica was my gateway to metal. Kill 'Em All is an album that I could still listen to start-to-finish. The others, maybe not.
     
  35. nexus

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    This is an interesting opinion as Undertow is much less "prog" but generally a bit heavier than what they've done since.
     
  36. Fidelio

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    Invincible is good
     
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  37. Shiggityshwo

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    I'm not enamored with it yet but I'll wait for the album version before really judging it, the eventual release after the build did seem solid though
     
  38. goblue31602

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    A few have said it on here, but both new songs were way more intense live, so I'm hoping that translates into the actual recording.
     
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  39. Shiggityshwo

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    I'm fairly confident they will, I realize it's weird to say a band feels flat on bootlegged recordings but to me this always seems especially true for Tool, it's a shame they don't allow more professional quality stuff out there
     
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  40. Dildo Dawgins

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    I'm sure it will too. I purchased quite a few Tool bootlegs from 96-coachella 99 era (56k and pre CD burner and torrance days) and they don't do a good job of capturing a true live performance or even studio sound. My first tool show was fall 2001 and I was blown away by the loudness of the show - especially the Grudge and AEnema, even after listening to all the bootlegs. My favorite thing about those late 90s shows were Maynard's humorous quips and was pretty disappointed when he didn't say much at post lateralus shows.
     
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    They're being recorded on iPhones. Of course it's going to sound flat and muddled and shitty.
     
  42. Fidelio

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    After about the 10th listen of each song, I forget how much I missed them
     
  43. Shiggityshwo

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    I know
     
  44. Shiggityshwo

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    The only good one I know of post Aenima is the '98 Kalamazoo soundboard which sounds incredible, and yeah Maynard's snarky as fuck throughout.
     
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    I loved em both live, and was underwhelmed when listening back on YouTube. I’d had a few drinks and was really excited in the moment, so my first impression may have overrated them a bit.

    It was really cool being the first crowd to see new Tool music in that long, for sure.
     
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    Not sure if this site has been posted here but it is a collection of all taped shows. There are several very high quality recordings that have been arounf a long time. You just have to know where to look.
    https://tooldriveproject.net/Recordings/
     
  47. nexus

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    Really hope none of you fine folks had tickets to Epicenter. I would be livid.
     
  48. goblue31602

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    These spring festivals are always a risk with the weather. In all the years I went to Rock on the Range, we had a few times where we had to be evacuated for weather reasons but it never really affected the headliners luckily.
     
  49. nexus

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    Yeah I'm nervous AF about Sunday. Thunderstorms and rain early in the day. Hopefully it's all passed by the evening but if it forces condensed set times like Rockville I'm going to be apoplectic because nobody gives a good god damn about any of the trash playing before them.
     
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  50. goblue31602

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    We got evacuated on a night when Metallica headlined. They pushed their set way late into the night as opposed to shortening it, and just paid the fines for sound ordinance violations. Another night Korn headlined and got their time cut a bit, so it will depend on when storms hit and how long they hit for.