Trumpocalypse 2: Ope say can you see

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  1. Gaknight

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    Fully expect markets to dump right at close
     
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  2. bwi2

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    When was Susie Wiles confirmed by the Senate? The appointments clause triggers on the job, not the manner in which the job is filled.
     
  3. BP

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    Tesla stock Goes up when he joins DOGE, goes up when he leaves DOGE
     
  4. Where Eagles Dare

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    Ah, muh free markets and govt intervention is baaaaaaaddddd

     
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  5. VaxRule

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    Hey WED, I say this truly with all the love in my heart, please for the love of God just shut the fuck up.

    Thank you
     
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  6. audrew

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  7. Drown ‘Em

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    If he stays beyond the allotted time, it potentially raises the question if he’s an Officer of the United States. As I understand it, the test for an Officer is 1) is it a “continuing” position, and 2) does it exercise significant authority by law. I’m saying that his continuing on raises the question of whether his position was actually a “continuing” position that needed confirmation to begin with. Perhaps that is incorrect, but that’s why I said it raises a potential challenge, as I’ve seen discussed elsewhere.
     
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  8. Where Eagles Dare

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    Yes, let's bring up posts from 7 pages ago b/c that is helpful in moving on.

    You're 5 pages behind. Quoting me does nothing but continue this.

    hth
     
  9. steamengine

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    Been saying this for years at book club
     
  10. steamengine

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    Still workshopping this so god give me grace

    ahem…

    WED is just Drew Swinney without the take
     
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  11. dome foam

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    While I can appreciate the hypocrisy and any chance to dunk on Ted, there at the very minimum needs to be rules re: the number of times a player can transfer/stay at a school for 2 years/coach leaves you get more leeway/whatever. It is out of control.
     
  12. phunkybuck

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  13. dblplay1212

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    So of course it's up 5% bc nothing makes sense.
     
  14. Count de Monet

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    On this topic, I watched the below Daily Show interview with a conservative economist/policy wonk and it’s baffling how much their entire ecosystem downplayed pissing off allies under the guise of refocusing on ourselves. Truly baffling as a former economics major from the late 2000s where the “market” knew all and had to be trusted!

    Sorry in advance for the long video, but at least Stewart is able to provide some levity and pushback.

     
  15. bwi2

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    again, the appointments clause is dependent upon the power exercised, not the length of government service. He isn’t even nominally DOGE administrator; White House senior advisors are not subject to Senate confirmation.
     
  16. lunchbox

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    its up because of the news he will leave government soon and focus again more on his businesses. but i think he's done irreversible harm going forward so we will see
     
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  17. dblplay1212

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    The man lies. He often lies the biggest after bad Tesla news to deflect from that bad news. When Tesla misses a number, you can bank on him have some type of deflection. Gallant Knight taught me his ways years ago.
     
  18. dblplay1212

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    Great news with FEMA gutted.

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  19. Prospector

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  20. bwi2

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    Great news: with NOAA and NWS gutted, who knows if there’s actually a storm
     
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  21. Gaknight

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    Sounds like a reason for it to drop even more in my opinion. The former Tesla customer base has no desire to associate with him.
     
  22. Gallant Knight

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    everything will be fine now that daddy elon is going back to sleeping on the tesla factory floor. no irreparable reputational harm has been done to his overwhelmingly liberal customer base over the last 6 months.
     
  23. Where Eagles Dare

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    No
     
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  24. soulfly

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    I don’t watch much Rogan shit. Is his whole bit just throwing shit at a wall and then asking others if it’s true or accurate? Because :facepalm:
     
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  25. Truman

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    They lost Rogan until the next guest convinces him it's fine, using the dumbest logic ever
     
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  26. The Banks

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    95% of it is his allowing far right problematic conspiracy theorists a huge platform to express their views with little to no pushback
     
  27. dblplay1212

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    The one I remember the most was bas numbers coming out and the stock mooning bc he promised your car value would increase bc it'd really be a taxi while you weren't using it.

    Found it:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/22/elon-musk-says-tesla-robotaxis-will-hit-the-market-next-year.html

    Published Mon, Apr 22 2019 5:09 PM EDT

    “I feel very confident predicting autonomous robotaxis for Tesla next year,” Musk said on stage at the Tesla Autonomy Investor Day in Palo Alto, California.
     
  28. Drown ‘Em

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    And again, I’m saying that his combination of exercised authority and the “continuing” nature of his position raises the question whether he’s an Officer of the United States needing confirmation. Do you believe that Elon is acting with authority beyond that which an advisor typically does? I think judges will be properly skeptical that he’s simply an advisor when looking at his actions and the actions taken at his direction. I think he’s clearly exercising significant authority, but only granted under an executive order.

    Again, as I understand the test to be an Officer, his position needs to be a “continuing” one in addition to have significant authority by law. By designating his position as temporary I believe they were trying to avoid triggering that first element. But, if in reality he stays in the position and continues to exercise the same authority he has, no matter how the White House tries to designate his involvement, how is he not an Officer of the US based on the two prongs of the test?
     
  29. bwi2

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    He wields tremendous influence but no power. Hence, the Chief of Staff comparison.
     
  30. bruce bowen

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  31. NoNatty

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    GoodForAnother where us this at? Looks awesome.
     
  32. Gallant Knight

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  33. Drown ‘Em

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    The district judge in the USAID case already issued an injunction saying he is likely an Officer based on his exercised authority.


    "To deny plaintiffs' Appointments Clause claim solely on the basis that, on paper, Musk has no formal legal authority relating to the decisions at issue, even if he is actually exercising significant authority on governmental matters, would open the door to an end-run around the Appointments Clause," Chuang wrote.

    He continued: "If a president could escape Appointments Clause scrutiny by having advisers go beyond the traditional role of White House advisors who communicate the president's priority to agency heads and instead exercise significant authority throughout the federal government so as to bypass duly appointed officers, the Appointments Clause would be reduced to nothing more than a technical formality."

    I think the “continuing” element was the stronger argument he wasn’t an Officer because he clearly is exercising authority. If it’s no longer a temporary position or in reality never was, he’s an Officer.
     
  34. GoodForAnother

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    the thought is probably that him being involved with the company will help its issues but it isn’t going to fix what he’s done to the company’s reputation nor stop the increased competition from real car manufacturers
     
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  35. GoodForAnother

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  36. AbeFroman

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    Pretty unbelievable she's a state SC justice. "The money coming in from Democrats is proof this is corrupt" . Uh, lady, the richest man in the entire world violated a few election laws to try and win it.
     
  37. MagicBuc

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    Health Agency Layoffs


    The US Department of Health and Human Services parted ways with roughly a quarter of its 82,000 workers yesterday as part of the Trump administration's ongoing reduction in force of the government’s 2.4 million workers. The layoffs bring the total estimated federal firings this year to more than 55,000 workers, not including those who accepted buyouts (roughly 75,000). Hundreds of thousands more reductions are expected in the coming months (see chart).



    The Food and Drug Administration saw the biggest cuts yesterday, with 3,500 employees dismissed (about 19% of its workforce), followed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (2,400) and the National Institutes of Health (1,200). The cuts or reassignments—expected to cut $1.8B from HHS' $1.8T budget— included dozens of top health officials, including infectious disease expert Dr. Jeanne Marrazzo, the successor to Dr. Anthony Fauci.



    Elsewhere, the Department of Transportation offered buyouts to thousands of workers in exchange for pay and benefits through Sept. 30.
     
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  38. Gallant Knight

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    looking back in the tesla thread from posts in 2019 is p funny
     
  39. bwi2

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    ok - that’s still showing that his status as an SGE is independent from the applicability of the Appointments Clause

    I don’t think that aspect of the decision will survive further factual development and/or appellate review, because the Appointments Clause purpose is served by having an appointed officer carry out the policy even if it’s being driven by someone who isn’t Senate confirmed
     
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  41. dblplay1212

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    Man it's wild to think about that being 6 years ago. We've all been posting together for so damn long. 15+ years of talking daily online is nuts.
     
  42. AbeFroman

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    Yes. Producer Jamie does yeoman's work to keep Joe's idiocy spreading to slightly less listeners.

    Joe and Guest "what are these absolute psychopaths thinking?"

    Jamie: "here's 10 ways that story was debunked a month ago with citations"

    Joe: "but it's telling that people think it could be true, which should be our focus"
     
  43. Drown ‘Em

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    And all I ever said was that someone could sue arguing that if he stays beyond what is allowed as a SGE it means that his position never was intended to be temporary and was always intended as a “continuing” position, get an injunction because he wasn’t confirmed as an Officer, and gunk up the gears. Even if it gets overturned on appeal, that process still would slow things down. Which was my entire point.
     
  44. GoodForAnother

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    knower of balls :cool:
     
  45. steamengine

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    Those of us plugged into valley dinners weren’t at all shocked
     
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  47. CaneKnight

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    Should be some hard rules on coaches leaving and coaching salary then. If you're going to regulate players you need to regulate ALL coaching salaries

    No one gave a fuck about the money being thrown around in college when coaches were getting mega salaries but the second someone gives some poor black kids money everyone freaks out and start screaming for government intervention.

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  48. chuckmasterflex

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    Liberation day coming the day before Verdansk returns going to lead to dems getting 60 seats in the senate and impeachment and Trump’s removal from office. Lock it in.
     
  49. bwi2

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    I can’t imagine anyone else cares about this, but you said:

    He was designated an SGE when people raised FACA as a bar to having an obviously conflicted private citizen sit inside the White House to provide advice. As the judge you quoted shows, the length of his appointment doesn’t create the appointments clause issue, which is solely determined by what actual power he has or purports to wield.
     
  50. beeds7

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    I saw something earlier that said the worst thing the internet has done was bring every villages idiot together. You had people who thought and said dumb shit, but it dies there. Now, village idiots get together and share their stupid thoughts and it’s ruined society.

    I was thinking MAGA, but this also fits Rogan to a T.
     
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