Trumpocalypse: Currently stealing several elections

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  1. steamengine

    steamengine THE WORDS BECAME FLESH JOHN 1:14
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    His website is so weird. It seems like it was tested with a million focus groups to eat up votes.
     
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  2. NCHusker88

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    Damn it Mr. Noodle
     
  3. NYGator

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    News aside, her comparison to the bloods and crips seems out of place. Isn't that a huge challenge?

     
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  4. Bruce Bowen

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    That’s the first I’ve listened to him and know nothing about him. Regardless he asks questions and the guest talks about 95% of that episode. It’s worth a listen.
     
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  5. PeterGriffin

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    :badasswolf: < closest I could get to a racism watch dog.
     
  6. Prospector

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    didn't see this posted yesterday

    The NRA appears to pull old lawmaker grades from its website
    by Philip Bump June 12 at 2:15 PM Email the author
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    President Trump gestures to the audience after speaking at the National Rifle Association’s annual convention in Dallas in May. (Sue Ogrocki/AP)
    Until recently, members of the National Rifle Association could view past ratings for political candidates on the website for the organization’s political action committee. Those old grades, which often were used to categorize the NRA-friendliness of sitting lawmakers, are no longer available to logged-in members. A drop-down menu that once displayed past years is now empty.

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    Jennifer Baker, a spokeswoman for the NRA, initially denied that any change had been made to the organization’s system.

    “Nothing has changed with our archives,” she said when we spoke by phone Monday. Told that past grades were no longer available even to members, she speculated that it might be “an IT glitch” on our end.

    Another NRA employee indicated that he was aware of the change when a Washington Post reporter called over the weekend to find past grades for legislative candidates. He confirmed that the past grades were no longer online and weren’t available elsewhere.

    He also offered a possible rationale.

    “I think our enemies were using that,” he said. He did not give his name.

    In the wake of high-profile shootings in the United States, letter grades have often been used as a way to categorize elected officials as hostile to new regulations on gun ownership or as an indication of willingness to take on the powerful interest group.

    Baker acknowledged that lawmakers themselves used the NRA’s ratings in this way.

    “Obviously people tout their old grades and say their own grades, but for us it’s a service, a voting guide, relevant to that specific election,” she said.

    She reiterated, though, that past grades were specific to a candidate and an election year.

    “Our grades are a member service,” she explained. “Our members vote, and one of the services that we provide them is to assess — to the best that anyone can — the candidates’ position on the Second Amendment and make a determination what candidates in a very specific election are the best candidates to protect and defend their constitutional rights.” The grades are issued as close to the election as possible to have the most relevance to that election.

    Pressed on the rationale for the change to the website, Baker first expressed frustration at the question.

    “I don’t understand — why are you asking? What does it matter to you?” she asked. “The grades are not relevant after the election.”

    She then reiterated that she didn’t know that any change had occurred, indicated that she would check whether it had, and promised to call back once she had an answer. She didn’t. A subsequent email didn’t receive a reply.

    People calling the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, the contact point for the organization’s political efforts, hear a recorded prompt before their call is connected.

    “Thank you for calling the NRA-ILA grass-roots division,” it says. “Due to recent attacks on our Second Amendment, we are experiencing high call volume. Please be sure to call your lawmakers to express your opposition to these latest anti-gun proposals.”
     
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  7. PeterGriffin

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  8. NYGator

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    I know this is a conservative meme, but it's still kind of funny, although scary that the celebrations of victory are in full effect, simply because it is their guy.

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  9. Jc6

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    No he didn’t. That is a gross misrepresentation of the events.
     
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  10. Beeds07

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    It's happening gif of true
     
  11. Beeds07

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  12. PeterGriffin

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    Why do these lawyers keep quitting on Trump and his associates?
     
  13. Upton^2

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    Pardon coming soon?
     
  14. audrew

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    Can’t they just alter their application 80 times after they submit it?
     
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  15. steamengine

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    You’re probably right. It’s a complex issue that could probably be spun off into its own thread but his discussion with Charles Murray essentially certainly didn’t do away with the idea.
     
  16. Gallant Knight

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    if cohen has a ton of dirt that could affect trumps money i bet it happens.

    if cohen has dirt about the campaign, i dont think trump will care.
     
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  17. hipsterjoe

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    isn’t cohen going to be charged with state charges
     
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  18. Redav

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    I'm guessing Cohen can't pay them
     
  19. Gallant Knight

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    from what i've read he is deeply deeply in debt because of the taxi medallions
     
  20. zeberdee

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    you can't pardon someone before they are convicted, can you?
     
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  21. hipsterjoe

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    yes. Nixon was pardoned before he was even charged
     
  22. NYGator

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    I don't see Cohen flipping. He has always been deeply loyal, and I think he would test this new world order where Trump uses the pardon process in cases that are directly tied to him without repercussion.
     
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  23. Mister Me Too

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    Yes, but under NYS law if he’s pardoned the state cannot touch him.
     
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  24. hipsterjoe

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    what I’m saying is he can’t be pardoned by the president if he’s charged with state charges
     
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  25. steamengine

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    Follow this gal to see if you care to see just how batshit crazy the Texas Republican Party is.

     
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  26. PeterGriffin

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    It says he's going to flip and cooperate with federal prosecutors in that tweet up there. I assume that has to do either with a federal case aka pardon city, or SDNY is weird and I don't understand it.
     
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  27. hipsterjoe

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    I would assume cooperating with a federal investigation is an appropriate way to get out of state charges, especially since the FBI works closely with SDNY prosecutors ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  28. hipsterjoe

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    but I don’t honestly know shit
     
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  29. BWC

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    SDNY is federal
     
  30. Gallant Knight

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    as anyone who watches billions would surely know.
     
  31. steamengine

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  32. BWC

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    So depressing
     
  33. hipsterjoe

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    Separate sovereigns doctrine says you can’t be charged with federal and state charges for the same crime so Cohen could be charged with both
     
  34. AlternativeFactsRule

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    If it’s for the criminal activity that was going to be prosecuted at a federal level. If there is evidence of criminal activity that was never going to be prosecuted by the feds, that would still be available to the state.
     
  35. bwi2

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    If you’re pardoned, you have to cooperate and testify fully because you don’t face criminal liability for your conduct.
     
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  36. AlternativeFactsRule

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    And you can still get new perjury and contempt charges. Of course you can get pardoned for those, but that means admitting guilt again and the whole process starts over.
     
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  37. bwi2

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    I don’t know what you could call giving someone a pardon for obstructing justice by not providing testimony in a criminal investigation about you and your associates other than obstruction of justice
     
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  38. Beeds07

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  39. PeterGriffin

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    So, hypothetically, Trump pardons several friends, either before or after they are charged. Then, a court could subpoena these same pardoned folks who can no longer plead the fifth relating to these activities and they are forced to answer questions about their activities with Trump. What about congress aka impeachment proceedings, they can't force anyone to answer questions it seems?
     
  40. bwi2

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    Same deal, refusing to answer a question under subpoena before Congress when there isn’t an applicable privilege (like the 5th Amendment) leads to a contempt charge and referral to DOJ.
     
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  41. AlternativeFactsRule

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    The ultimate cheat code - at least until Republicans decide to grow some balls and stand up for anything America claims to represent.

    So, “the ultimate cheat code”
     
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  42. Prospector

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    The attacks are working

    Poll shows Mueller’s public image at all-time low

    By DARREN SAMUELSOHN

    06/13/2018 05:47 AM EDT

    Special counsel Robert Mueller’s public image has sunk to an all-time low since he began his probe into possible collusion between the Trump 2016 presidential campaign and Russia, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll.

    Months of sustained conservative attacks led by President Donald Trump and his allies has harmed Mueller most among Republicans, with a record 53 percent now saying they view the lead Russia investigator in an unfavorable light. That’s a 26-point spike since July, when the poll first started asking voters whether they viewed Mueller favorably or unfavorably.


    Mueller’s unfavorable numbers have hit highs among both Democrats and independents, at 24 percent and 33 percent, respectively. Thirty-six percent of all registered voters are also seeing Mueller unfavorably, which represents the highest level since the polling first raised the topic 11 months ago. Back then, 23 percent of all voters said they viewed Mueller negatively.

    "Robert Mueller’s disapproval rating is at its highest point since Morning Consult and Politico began tracking the Special Counsel,” said Tyler Sinclair, Morning Consult’s managing director. “A key driver of this movement appears to be Republicans. Today, 53 percent of Republicans have an unfavorable impression of Robert Mueller, compared to just 27 percent who said the same in July 2017."

    The spike in the special counsel’s unfavorable ratings come as he begins his second year on the job. Mueller has already publicly netted five guilty pleas and 18 indictments of people and companies tied to his work examining Moscow meddling in the 2016 election. But he’s nonetheless faced sharp attacks from the president, his lawyers and other associates.

    Voters interviewed for the POLITICO/Morning Consult poll also have changed direction on whether they think the Mueller investigation has been on the up and up. In the latest survey, 40 percent of voters said it had been handled unfairly, compared to early February when 34 percent said the probe wasn’t being handled fairly. The percentage saying the investigation was being done fairly remained unchanged from February at 38 percent.

    The latest poll also has bad news for the president. Forty-eight percent of voters believe Trump has attempted to impede or obstruct the Russia investigation, up from 44 percent who offered the same view in early February. Democrats by a wide margin — 79 percent — said Trump was trying to obstruct Mueller’s probe. But 70 percent of Republicans said the president wasn’t meddling in the investigation.

    Trump also may want to rethink his comments about pardoning himself if he’s found guilty of a crime. The president last week told reporters he had the “absolute right” to make that move, but a majority of voters — 59 percent — said they opposed the idea of Trump issuing a self-pardon. Twenty percent said the president should pardon himself, while 21 percent were without an opinion or responded that they didn’t know.

    The breakdown among party affiliation on pardons is also against the president. About a third of Republicans — 34 percent — agree with the idea that Trump should issue himself a pardon. The same number of Republicans also said he should not pardon himself. Among Democrats, just 13 percent said the president should pardon himself, while 77 percent rejected the idea. Only 15 percent of independents said they thought Trump should pardon himself, while 63 percent said no.

    Mueller’s favorable ratings, meantime, remain high among Democrats, with 50 percent in the latest poll giving him the thumbs-up for his job performance.

    In the first POLITICO/Morning Consult poll conducted last summer to ask the favorable/unfavorable question, 32 percent of Democrats gave Mueller a positive rating. Among Republicans, Mueller’s favorable rating remains relatively stagnant at 18 percent in the latest poll, down from 22 percent in July 2017. Independents gave Mueller a 28 percent favorable rating.

    Despite being a steady presence in the news since taking over the investigation last May, Mueller also continues to be little-known to many Americans. Thirty-two percent of all voters, and 40 percent of independents, said they either had no opinion of the special counsel or had never heard of him.

    The latest POLITICO/Morning Consult poll was conducted June 7-10 and surveyed 1,994 registered voters. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.

    Morning Consult is a nonpartisan media and technology company that provides data-driven research and insights on politics, policy and business strategy.

    More details on the poll and its methodology can be found in these two documents — Toplines: https://politi.co/2l7MATG | Crosstabs: https://politi.co/2JIJyzM
     
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  43. Hoss Bonaventure

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    So he’s possibly screwed either way?
     
  44. bwi2

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    Until

     
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  45. tmbrules

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    Its not to late to hop on the MAGA train fellas! (bye bye Mark Sanford!)



    Attacking Trump is now a losing strategy in BOTH parties -- That's the real takeaway from Tuesday's primaries

    "it was clear Tuesday that while strongly resisting President Trump is certainly damaging to Democrats, doing so is nothing short of catastrophic for Republicans."

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018...ts-real-takeaway-from-tuesdays-primaries.html
     
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  46. timo

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    Will just pardon them for that too.
     
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  47. lechnerd

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    Oh nice.

    Lay off hundreds of thousands of people and put the govt in charge of healthcare.

    What could go wrong.
     
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  48. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Probably the goal. Just pardon everyone that does illegal shit for him so that no one will ever care about breaking the law for anything he wants. What a time!
     
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  49. Sub-Zero

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    "welp can't come up with a solution to what is broken because it's hard and complicated" strikes conservatives again!
     
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  50. dome foam

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    you've unintentionally highlighted the problem. :clap:
     
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