Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. KNOTT

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    GOOD! FUCK EM
     
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  2. Joe_Pesci

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    wasn't there some poll from a few weeks ago that said half of republicans would be okay with postponing the 2020 election?

    in general i think a lot of people talk about how much they love democracy a lot more than they actually love it. look at the support for voter ID laws and any number of other things that make it harder to vote in this country. look at voting turnout. look at how much support those idiots who occupied the wildlife refuge in oregon got last year. those are basically people who didn't like the way democracy went for them, so they armed themselves and took the law into their own hands.
     
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  3. VaxRule

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    I've learned my lesson. Morons will continue to ruin the things I love.
     
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  4. Blu Tang Clan

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    Yes and yes.
     
  5. Shu

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    Voter id laws are not crazy and should be supported. Most every civilized country in the world has some form of voter id law .
     
  6. VaxRule

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  7. jorge

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    Not true in Australia, Canada, England, Scotland, Wales and only if prompted in Germany and then I stopped looking.
     
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  8. BP

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    So basically this was all just to explain that the biggest victim from Charlottesville was in fact, himself.
     
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  9. Shu

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    I believe Canada has to show ID.

    I know it will probably never actually be resolved because it is a political football, but imo , in today's world, having some proof of id (if only 2 bills or a work id) should be reasonable.
     
  10. bic

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    Perhaps that's why he's "former." I watch maybe 30 minutes of cable news a week and just happened to tune in during that bit earlier and I was caught a bit off guard as well.
     
  11. Joe_Pesci

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    do you think the kind of voter fraud that these laws allegedly prevent is a problem?
     
  12. Joe_Pesci

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    apparently even the concept of registering to vote would be bizarre in most of these places
     
  13. jorge

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    In Canada you can just take an oath and have someone vouch for you lmbo. But really, in every state I know of you at least need to present your voter registration, how is that any different from showing bills?

    The problem people have is not that they are opposed to voter ID. The problem is there's is an attempt to implement it in a way that disenfranchises voters.
     
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  14. Joe_Pesci

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    i give them more credit: they know what's up
     
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    CNN so butt hurt this morning. Hilarious.

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  18. jorge

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    I'm talking about opposition to it. I know the voter ID people know what they're doing.
     
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    biggest news of the night- shu turned into a liberal
     
  20. Merica

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    I'm more scared he questions the validity of the results and refuses to leave when he loses.
     
  21. cutig

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    If only Obama did what the Republicans said he would, and declared himself dictator.
     
  22. indeed

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    Obama is actually dictator of the shadow government that is causing Trump all these problems and is actively colluding with Ukraine to make him look bad and to weaken America.
     
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    if hitler had dementia and a slight case of down syndrome.

    i watched some clips this morning, all of it was fucking crazy, but the part where he talks about pardoning sheriff joe was like something straight out of monday night raw.
     
  24. indeed

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    Thanks Zuck!

    “I think a great portion of it was a conspiracy, I think it was a setup,” Key said.

    “From whom?” asked CNN’s Alisyn Camerota.

    “I think people who want to derail our president,” she replied. “There were buses coming in with lots of young people, protesters, coming off the same bus — and some were wearing ‘Black Lives Matter’ and some wearing the KKK shirts. They were brought in to cause a controversy.”

    Camerota asked where she was getting this information from — and the Trump supporters all replied that they’d seen something about it on Facebook. She then asked them if they trusted videos they saw on Facebook more than they trusted news stories written by news organizations — and they all said they did.

    “I trust Facebook more than news,” replied one supporter.

     
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  25. LetItSoak

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  26. Shu

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    Not a huge problem, no.

    How are we here though? I hear you that it can be used as a tool for restricting votes. But a simple id showing would not be taxing on the citizen and could easily ensure the election. It's a political football though, so while there is a common sense solution, one won't be found.
     
  27. Shu

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    You can do that in GA as well. 2 people affirm you are who you say you are.

    I agree it is a football though so nothing will be done.
     
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    v special relationship
     
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  30. MORBO!

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    I mean, look...voter fraud isn't really a problem that needs to be solved. That said, ultimately, I don't think many of us would disagree with a system that requires showing some sort of ID so long as the system wasn't specifically designed to disenfranchise voters (primarily minority voters). If a lawmaker proposed something that would allow easy universal access to all eligible voters, then sure. But if you're talking about forcing people (who may or may not have ever had a birth certificate, or who don't have reasonable access to the necessary government facility, etc.) to show an ID, with the end result being that they just can't vote...well that just doesn't work for us. Everyone should have a reasonable and easy path to voting, and the voter ID laws have only been used to ensure the opposite.
     
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  32. Joe_Pesci

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    i learned from reddit yesterday how BB-8 actually worked. i am not kidding, it was magnets

    (and also a guy in a green suit pushing a model when BB-8 had to move fast)
     
  33. afb

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    now he names him

     
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  35. tmbrules

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    http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/23/m...who-accuses-him-of-being-a-white-nationalist/


    Mike Rowe Absolutely Destroys Guy Who Accuses Him Of Being A White Nationalist
    “Dirty Jobs” host Mike Rowe had some choice words Tuesday night in response to a question he got accusing him of harboring “white nationalist” sympathies.

    Rowe posted a question submitted to him on his Facebook page that accused the TV host’s advocacy for the skilled trades of amounting to anti-intellectualism, and therefore racism.

    A man named Chuck Adkins asked, “One of the tenants of white nationalism is that college educated people are academic elitests. Comment? No? I’m not surprised. You never take a political stand because you don’t want to alienate anybody. Its bad for business. I get it. But there is a current of anti intellectualism in this country – promoted by Republicans. Those people love you, and they think your initiative is their initiative. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is kickin our ass academically.”

    Rowe, a popular jovial TV personality, went off in a long, brutal response.

    “Since we’re being candid, allow me to say how much I dislike your post. Everything about it annoys me – your smug and snarky tone, your appalling grammar, your complete lack of evidence to support your claims, and of course, the overarching logical fallacy that informs your entire position,” Rowe wrote. “What really bugs me though, is the fact that you’re not entirely wrong. It’s true; I haven’t shared any political opinions this week, in part anyway, because doing so might very well be ‘bad for business.'”

    “What can I say? I work for half-a-dozen different companies, none of whom pay me to share my political opinions. I run a non-partisan foundation, I’m about to launch a new show on Facebook, and I’m very aware that celebrities pay a price for opening their big fat gobs. Gilbert Gottfried, Kathy Griffin, Colin Kaepernick, Milo Yiannopoulos…even that guy from Google who just got himself fired for mouthing off. There’s no getting around it – the first amendment does not guarantee the freedom to speak without consequences. And really, that’s fine by me,” he continued.

    “So no – I’m not going to share my personal feelings about Charlottesville, President Trump, or the current effort to remove thousands of statues of long dead soldiers from the public square. Not just because it’s ‘bad for business,’ but because it’s annoying. I can’t think of a single celebrity whose political opinion I value, and I’m not going to assume the country feels any differently about mine,” Rowe wrote. “So, rather than blow myself up, or chime in with all the obvious observations about the cowardly scum in the pointy hats, I’m going to talk instead about my belief that comments like yours pose a far greater threat to the future of our country than the existence of a memorial to Thomas Jefferson, or a monument to George Washington. Ready?”

    Then Rowe started in on Adkins’ insinuations.

    “You say that White Nationalists believe that everyone who goes to college is an ‘academic elite.’ You then say that Republicans promote ‘anti-intellectualism.’ You offer no proof to support either claim, but it really doesn’t matter – your statements successfully connect two radically different organizations by alleging a shared belief,” Rowe said. “Thus, White Nationalists and The Republican Party suddenly have something in common – a contempt for higher education. Then, you make it personal. You say that Republicans “love” me because they believe that my initiative and ‘their’ initiative are one and the same. But of course, ‘their’ initiative is now the same initiative as White Nationalists.”

    He continued “Very clever. Without offering a shred of evidence, you’ve implied that Republicans who support mikeroweWORKS do so because they believe I share their disdain for all things ‘intellectual.’ And poof – just like that, Republicans, White Nationalists, and mikeroweWORKS are suddenly conflated, and the next thing you know, I’m off on a press tour to disavow rumors of my troubling association with the Nazis!”

    “Far-fetched? Far from it,” Rowe continued. “That’s how logical fallacies work. A flaw in reasoning or a mistaken belief undermines the logic of a conclusion, often leading to real-world consequences. And right now, logical fallacies are not limited to the warped beliefs of morons with tiki torches, and other morons calling for ‘more dead cops.’ Logical fallacies are everywhere.”

    Not near done, Rowe wrote, “As I type this, a Democrat on CNN is making an argument that says, ‘because Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, those Republicans now opposed to tearing down his memorial are ‘pro-slavery,’ and therefore aligned with the modern day KKK.’ That’s a logical fallacy.

    “Over on Fox, a Republican is arguing that ‘any Democrat who has not yet condemned the Senator from Missouri for publicly wishing that Donald Trump be assassinated, is guilty of wishing for the exact same thing.’ That’s a logical fallacy.

    “Yesterday, on The Science Channel, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, a noted astronomer, tweeted that the ability of scientists to accurately predict the solar eclipse, was proof that predictions of global warming were also accurate. That’s a logical fallacy.”

    Then Rowe turned the tables on his accuser, continuing, “Want to hear another one? Imagine something like this, unfolding over on MSNBC.

    “‘Good Evening, America, our top story tonight… Chuck Atkins is a racist! Why? Because he can’t spell. Just look at his grammar! In a recent post on Mike Rowe’s Facebook page, Mr. Atkins, while bemoaning America’s global academic standing, not only misspelled ‘elitist,’ he used ‘tenants’ when he meant ‘tenets.’ He neglected to use a hyphen in ‘anti-intellectual,’ and he misplaced several commas and apostrophes! But why is he a racist, you ask? Simple. Because everyone knows racists are ignorant. Chuck Atkins is clearly a poor speller. Poor spelling and grammar are signs of ignorance. Ergo – Chuck Atkins is a racist! Boom! The matter is settled!”

    “There’s not much we can do about the news, but here on Facebook, I think we can do better. This isn’t Twitter,” Rowe said. “We’re not limited to a few inflammatory sentences and a flurry of emojis. Take a moment, Chuck. Think. Make a rational argument. Otherwise, just link us to a cat video. People love those, and they’re almost never ‘bad for business.’ (Unless of course, the cat gets hurt. People hate that.) Just don’t assume that people will care about your beliefs, if you’re not willing to back them up with some relevant facts and a rational conclusion. Here, for instance, are a few facts that matter to me, with respect to my foundation and the recurring charge of ‘fostering anti-intellectualism.'”

    Rowe then defended his charitable work, writing, “mikeroweWORKS is a PR campaign for the skilled trades. For the last nine years, we’ve partnered with numerous trade schools, raised millions of dollars for work-ethic scholarships, and called attention to millions of jobs that don’t require a four-year degree. But that doesn’t mean we’re ‘anti-intellectual.’ We’re not even ‘anti-college.’ We simply reject the popular notion that a four-year degree is the best path for the most people. And we’re hardly alone.

    “Millions of reasonable people – Republicans and Democrats alike – are worried that our universities are doing a poor job of preparing students for the real world. They’re worried about activist professors, safe spaces, the rising cost of tuition, a growing contempt for history, and a simmering disregard of the first amendment. These people are concerned that our universities – once beacons of free speech – now pander to a relatively small percentage of students who can’t tolerate any political opinion that challenges their own. And they’re concerned – deeply concerned – that millions of good jobs are currently vacant that don’t require a four-year degree, or any of the catastrophic debt that comes with it.”

    Returning to the original attack, Rowe concluded, “Again – these are not the concerns of ‘anti-intellectuals.’ They are the concerns of people who care about the future of the country. I don’t know how many of these people are Republicans, but I can assure you that no one who actually supports my initiative is remotely confused about my feelings on education, because I’ve been crystal clear on that topic from the very beginning. To quote Thomas Jefferson, (while I still can,) ‘If a nation expects to be ignorant and free and live in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.’ On this point, my foundation does not equivocate.

    “In other words, Chuck, I have no idea what The White Nationalists think about my efforts, or the Republicans, the Democrats, the elitists, the Italians, the Presbyterians, the unions, or the self-proclaimed anti-intellectuals. And really, I couldn’t care less. My question is, why do you? Mike”

    After his long rant, Rowe added two postscripts to lighten the mood a bit.

    “PS. Ok, I’ve just re-read this, (in a desperate search for typos,) and I want to apologize for pointing out that you’re a lousy speller. This is probably not the time to trot out The Grammar Nazi, but your tenor and tone pissed me off, and I responded in my own snarky way. Sorry,” he wrote.

    “PPS Maybe this is how political correctness begins? Maybe we start by correcting each other’s grammar, and then move on to the business of correcting everything else? Today a missing hyphen, tomorrow a missing monument. Or, maybe not,” he concluded.
     
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  36. steamengine

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    Pistol packin mama, whose husband sues obama, head to the Texas house.


     
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  38. tmbrules

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    Pretty poor Gif usage. Go back to the drawing board.
     
  39. 42yard

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  40. Joe_Pesci

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    just from browsing jeff flake's politics, it seems unlikely that we would agree on very much. but this kind of thing is not the responsibility of a single u.s. senator and the president talking about him like this only degrades the presidency further.
     
  41. steamengine

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    That's Mike Rowe absolutely P'owning a dirty lib. A zillionaire such as your self should be sharp enough to catch it.
     
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  42. tmbrules

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    If you have to explain the joke .......
     
  43. steamengine

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    I didn't to anyone else.
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  45. Joe_Pesci

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    just as a matter of course, when i see "x destroys y" and it's in reference to some argument or debate, i do not care nor watch.
     
  46. Joe_Pesci

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    if we're talking about The Rock DESTROYING John Cena, yes I will watch that
     
  47. afb

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    not to mention Flake is the one Arizona senator that voted for the health care bill
     
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