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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by GoodForAnother, Mar 22, 2017.
Here we fucking go…
this is peak electoral performance
this is a bizarre rant to what he said
funny seeing this kid kinda become a mainstay on left twitter. pretty sure he’s a junior in college. used to talk braves baseball with him. odd guy but enjoy his tweets
Who said she should be running like Bernie? Come on down to Georgia with me and help knock doors, she's not struggling in the suburbs where the squad scares the rich liberals who think they had it tough and no privilege when they grew up. She's struggling just getting at her messaging out in almost all media though, I've seen almost no political ads for her unless you count a few anti-Kemp ads. Meanwhile I've seen 10 times as many Warnock ads.
It would be very simple for her campaign to cut a few ads of trying to beat back all the insanely evil Supreme Court stuff that has happened or even just her 2018 platform, but even that I haven't seen really.
you don’t get it to win electorally in georgia you have to say atlas shrugged is your favorite book
She's just a very odd person, she's definitely closer to a neoliberal '90s Democrat than she is closer to Bernie for sure. It doesn't mean she can't win, but it is odd to see how little of her in media compared to 2018. Maybe some of that is she isn't getting national funding like she did last time, but I think she is struggling with many of the less frequent voters that almost got her elected last time.
Abrams is running a very weak campaign. Her ads suck and are v low energy. She could differentiate herself from Kemp with a pro legalization stance but seems to have blown it on that front
Warnock and ossof both won with far more progressive platforms. She's a loser whos going to get washed
That may be true about her platform but those guys had the benefit of running during a presidential year with Trump on the ballot. Warnock may lose to a moron who happens to also have CTE this go round.
Calling Stacey Abrams a loser is rich.
Dang, tough break
You know, just a routine fall out of a hospital window
Had no idea their HQ was in Sarasota. I'm not surprised, Sarasota really making a name for itself as a chud town last few years. That's also where the "cyber ninjas" were based out of.
Lol looked up the address and it's in the same building as my wife's old job, small world.
Uhh 2018 was exactly like this, she was definitely bolstered by an anti-Trump sentiment.
They’re just evil
Seriously what's the likelihood they actually give you the debt back even if the Supreme Court rules that Biden can't somehow do this?
“Who has standing to sue over student loan forgiveness?”
What are they going to sue for?
Can I sue b/c I don't want to fund the military or the police? I don't want to pay for that.
i frankly don't want any of my tax dollars funding gym jordan
4 pages behind, but I read somewhere he went from 80 million followers on twitter to 4 million on his bullshit platform.
He called her a coward because presumably, her platform isn’t progressive enough for his liking. I was merely trying to point out that is horse shit. This woman has endured vicious attacks of her character by the right and threats from rwnj, and she’s still doing the work. I don’t see any cowardice there.
Now you may say all Dem’s running for office in this current climate face those issues. But if you think she and someone like Beto get the same treatment from the right, you’d be wrong. The scrutiny on her is greater and the attacks are more vile, with her race, appearance, intelligence, demeanor all fair game. They’ve been vilifying her for the last 5 years.
And despite all that, she and her organization were one of the driving forces in flipping GA blue in 2020 and sending 2 Dems to the senate. Did both of those candidates run on more progressive platforms? Yes. But they’re also men, and in our society that seems to matter more than policy at times. Those two senators also would have had no shot at winning their races if not for the work she and her organization did to get people registered and out there to vote. And without them, infrastructure, covid recovery, the IRA, nothing Biden has put out there passes.
She’s going to lose. And maybe her campaign is shitting the bed, but to call her a coward and a loser just because she isn’t progressive enough for your liking is garbage and ignores the fact that if not for her efforts the last 2 years would have been a complete disaster. As a democrat and black woman her margin for error is already minuscule because Georgia is Georgia, a state whose most visible pol is MTG.
And if not for some electoral fuckery by the current shithead governor, she’d have one.
maybe it’s just arguing semantics but any politician that doesn’t endorse legal weed in 2022 especially in a super purple state at least has some pretty cowardly traits.
especially one that is trailing fairly soundly and needs a legit shakeup to have a prayer. not like endorsing weed is gonna be the reason she loses so i think it’s a fair critique fro brother bricktop
Feel like there would be winnable votes if she came out pro legalization. I don't get it at all
yeah edited that in to my response. the idea that being pro weed would lose the election when she’s already obviously going to lose makes no sense to me. so i mean yeah i don’t have a problem with calling it at least coward adjacent because it’s one of the more generous explanations
Im sorry, you lost me at “super purple state”
I grew up here and have lived here the vast majority of my life, I'm acutely aware of what the situation is. It wasn't just her either, she was a huge fundraising apparatus and voice but it was literally people on the ground who made a huge effort to do all the handwork required to register those new voters. These are the same people who felt ignored when Biden couldn't get a new VRA passed and have felt abandoned by the party. It is also cowardly of her to not continue to hammer Kemp on cozying up to all the far-right insane shit that the people she helped register almost certainly do not like. Again I barely see her at all, the only actual ad I can think of is actually a pro-police ad she got a former cop to endorse her on that I've heard on the radio. This is the stuff that makes white suburban liberals happy and not the actual base of the Democratic party if you were to actually poll Black voters under 50.
you can’t credit her for the state going blue in 2020 (in three different very prominent races) and then turn around and say it isn’t really purple
sorry someone mildly critiqued her but give me a break with this shit
Can we create a new Stacey Abrams mega thread for this discussion?
he’s like the posting embodiment of the coastal, smug, liberal elite stereotype it’s fascinating
I think he's right in that she's very important to why Biden has been able to get some big legislation passed, but it's continually shocking to me the type of campaign she's running and I think it is fair to say it's a bit cowardly. Maybe I'm just not in the region where they need to spend on advertising, but given that it's already September I'm genuinely shocked that she's not doing much of a big media blitz this close to the actual election.
you can make the argument that cowardice is the most charitable critique of whatever she’s doing
She should die in state custody
Lmao. So we’re doing off-base personal characterizations? Cool.
Listening to the two of you call this woman a loser while she’s probably done more for the values we all generally espouse, in a day than either of you have done in your lifetimes is a bad joke. Listening to the two of you call her a coward when either of you probably couldn’t handle a tenth of the vitriol aimed at her is even more absurd.
“But, but, she won’t come out in favor of legalizing weed!”
FOH with your cry baby bullshit. This is politics. You do and say what you have to, to win. I’m sure her campaign has better data on how legalization polls with voters in GA and she made a choice. But hey, maybe they’re wrong- still not a valid basis to call her out imo.
neither of us called her a loser so again sorry for the mildest of critiques of Abrams but pls try to read proper.
you hyping your her commendable efforts to turn georgia blue and then scoffing at calling it a purple state shows you have no interest in a serious, non-emotional discussion of any critiques so not gonna engage any further on this one
no idea what the fuck are you even talking about with that last paragraph
Dude, the poster who talked about her having a shitty response to legalizing marijuana in a Q&A session is actually running for State Senate, you're stuck in 2018 when the rest of the country has changed as well as the electorate.
Last paragraph I mistook you for another poster. My apologies. Though it was probably just as valid as your critique of me being a coastal elitist.
I like the updated version that adds a Kaylynn and Taylee
Idk what Abrams is even running on. I've seen two ads with women saying Brian Kemp voted to make abortion illegal and that's pretty much it.
Honestly, at this point in this political climate do you really need to know more? She’s running against an anti-democracy, pro-fascist piece of shit. Her primary policy objective could be dismantling UGA’s football program and she’d still be a better alternative.
Finally, something we can all get behind.
Fucking Chud bootlicker
She’s either a coward or supports policies that disproportionately negatively effect black people.
And I do think by literal definition of the word she has been a loser more recently than she’s been a winner
one of those two or she’s just a really massive idiot. choose your own adventure!
sure but "im less worse than my opponent" is not how you get people out to vote