Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. chuckmasterflex

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    Turned on the tv and CBS Sunday Morning was talking about what to about movie theaters. Just have Congress cut them a check. What, I don't ever get to go to the movies again because Donald Trump is a sociopath and an idiot?

    If you need to find some money just audit the pentagon and make it work. TIA
     
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  2. Henry Blake

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    Or maybe Trump distilled the R party down to its true essence
    By The Editorial Board

    The editorial board is a group of opinion journalists whose views are informed by expertise, research, debate and certain longstanding values. It is separate from the newsroom.

    Oct. 24, 2020

    Of all the things President Trump has destroyed, the Republican Party is among the most dismaying.

    “Destroyed” is perhaps too simplistic, though. It would be more precise to say that Mr. Trump accelerated his party’s demise, exposing the rot that has been eating at its core for decades and leaving it a hollowed-out shell devoid of ideas, values or integrity, committed solely to preserving its own power even at the expense of democratic norms, institutions and ideals.

    Tomato, tomahto. However you characterize it, the Republican Party’s dissolution under Mr. Trump is bad for American democracy.

    A healthy political system needs robust, competing parties to give citizens a choice of ideological, governing and policy visions. More specifically, center-right parties have long been crucial to the health of modern liberal democracies, according to the Harvard political scientist Daniel Ziblatt’s study of the emergence of democracy in Western Europe. Among other benefits, a strong center right can co-opt more palatable aspects of the far right, isolating and draining energy from the more radical elements that threaten to destabilize the system.

    Today’s G.O.P. does not come close to serving this function. It has instead allowed itself to be co-opted and radicalized by Trumpism. Its ideology has been reduced to a slurry of paranoia, white grievance and authoritarian populism. Its governing vision is reactionary, a cross between obstructionism and owning the libs. Its policy agenda, as defined by the party platform, is whatever President Trump wants — which might not be so pathetic if Mr. Trump’s interests went beyond “Build a wall!”

    assault on checks and balances. Mr. Trump has spurned the concept of congressional oversight of his office. After losing a budget fight and shutting down the government in 2018-19, he declared a phony national emergency at the southern border so he could siphon money from the Pentagon for his border wall. He put a hold on nearly $400 million in Senate-approved aid to Ukraine — a move that played a central role in his impeachment.

    observed in The Atlantic: “Republicans, from beginning to end, sought not to ensure that justice be done or truth be revealed. Instead, they sought to ensure that Trump not be removed from office under any circumstances, defending him at all costs.”

    The debasement goes beyond passive indulgence. Congressional bootlickers, channeling Mr. Trump’s rantings about the Deep State, have used their power to target those who dared to investigate him. Committee chairmen like Representative Devin Nunes and Senator Ron Johnson have conducted hearings aimed at smearing Mr. Trump’s political opponents and delegitimizing the special counsel’s Russia inquiry.

    As head of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Mr. Johnson pushed a corruption investigation of Mr. Biden’s son Hunter that he bragged would expose the former vice president’s “unfitness for office.” Instead, he wasted taxpayer money producing an 87-page rehash of unsubstantiated claims reeking of a Russian disinformation campaign. Senator Mitt Romney of Utah, another Republican on the committee, criticized the inquiry as “a political exercise,” noting, “It’s not the legitimate role of government or Congress, or for taxpayer expense to be used in an effort to damage political opponents.”

    Undeterred, last Sunday Mr. Johnson popped up on Fox News, engaging with the host over baseless rumors that the F.B.I. was investigating child pornography on a computer that allegedly had belonged to Hunter Biden. These vile claims are being peddled online by right-wing conspiracymongers, including QAnon.

    Not that congressional toadies are the only offenders. A parade of administration officials — some of whom were well respected before their Trumpian tour — have stood by, or pitched in, as the president has denigrated the F.B.I., federal prosecutors, intelligence agencies and the courts. They have failed to prioritize election security because the topic makes Mr. Trump insecure about his win in 2016. They have pushed the limits of the law and human decency to advance Mr. Trump’s draconian immigration agenda.

    Most horrifically, Republican leaders have stood by as the president has lied to the public about a pandemic that has already killed more than 220,000 Americans. They have watched him politicize masks, testing, the distribution of emergency equipment and pretty much everything else. Some echo his incendiary talk, fueling violence in their own communities. In the campaign’s closing weeks, as case numbers and hospitalizations climb and health officials warn of a rough winter, Mr. Trump is stepping up the attacks on his scientific advisers, deriding them as “idiots” and declaring Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top expert in infectious diseases, a “disaster.” Only a smattering of Republican officials has managed even a tepid defense of Dr. Fauci. Whether out of fear, fealty or willful ignorance, these so-called leaders are complicit in this national tragedy.

    As Republican lawmakers grow increasingly panicked that Mr. Trump will lose re-election — possibly damaging their fortunes as well — some are scrambling to salvage their reputations by pretending they haven’t spent the past four years letting him run amok. In an Oct. 14 call with constituents, Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska gave a blistering assessment of the president’s failures and “deficient” values, from his misogyny to his calamitous handling of the pandemic to “the way he kisses dictators’ butts.” Mr. Sasse was less clear about why, the occasional targeted criticism notwithstanding, he has enabled these deficiencies for so long.

    It has, in fact, filled several, as well as a slew of articles, social media posts and op-eds, written by conservatives both heartbroken and incensed over what has become of their party.

    But many of these disillusioned Republicans also acknowledge that their team has been descending into white grievance, revanchism and know-nothing populism for decades. Mr. Trump just greased the slide. “He is the logical conclusion of what the Republican Party has become in the last 50 or so years,” the longtime party strategist Stuart Stevens asserts in his new book, “It Was All a Lie.”

    The scars of Mr. Trump’s presidency will linger long after he leaves office. Some Republicans believe that, if those scars run only four years deep, rather than eight, their party can be nursed back to health. Others question whether there is anything left worth saving. Mr. Stevens’s prescription: “Burn it to the ground, and start over.”
     
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  3. Randy Dangus

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  4. IV

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    At least they finally said it
     
  5. chuckmasterflex

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    They stopped tying to do anything in July
     
  6. Sportfan

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    My dad, a lifelong republican, is fully on the Biden train. He lives in the Hill country and told me when Biden wins next Tuesday he’s going to drive through the neighborhood honking his horn all night :loldog: He’s not some shy republican voting for Biden, he was exited to do it.

    Im hoping much like that Karen article earlier that the GOP has radicalized a ton of moderate voters to the Democratic Party. Maybe it’s just wanting to be optimistic but it’s emboldened my mother to be a poll worker and my dad to plaster democratic bumper stickers on his car.
     
  7. southside

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    It’s gone both ways, just hope it net leans in Biden’s favor. I know several moderates who have pushed to trump this cycle, mainly due to hating the press
     
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  8. RavenNole

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    at least they are admitting that they aren’t trying to stop the spread of the virus. That was another horrible interview for meadows. They just seem fine with giving the virus to 4-5 times as many people because our therapeutics mean that only 1/3 or maybe even 1/2 will die. A decreasing death rate won’t be what people other than fox news and Breitbart are talking about when we start to see 2000 death days again.

    I just fail to see how the behavior of at least some in this administration isn’t criminal negligence.

    The misinformation campaign that has led to tens of thousands of health complications and deaths is genocide. That’s the word people need to start using
     
  9. swiz

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    Then they were never moderate.
     
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  10. RavenNole

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    by moderate do you just mean people who say they’re moderates but have voted straight R their whole lives? I know some people have gone M or D to R. Most of them have been indoctrinated into white grievance politics or Q on Facebook or other places on the internet.
     
  11. southside

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    These are lazy takes and underestimate how powerful the Facebook radicalization ecosystem is.

    these folks voted for Obama for Christ sake
     
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  12. southside

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    Exactly this
     
  13. Lyrtch

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    ..i dont really buy this

    seems like a substitute for their other beliefs that you might find more socially toxic so they hide them
     
  14. Lyrtch

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    i see that i'm late
     
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  15. Lyrtch

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    but for real if your PUBLIC reasoning is lugenpresse its sus
     
  16. southside

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    100%, but that’s the easy umbrella for them to throw up
     
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  17. Bishop

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    I really want to set fireworks off in my neighborhood the minute Biden wins. But I don't think anything will be decided election night and I also plan to take sleeping meds early that night to avoid the anxiety of the whole thing.
     
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  19. Lyrtch

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    this is sus
     
  20. Bruce Wayne

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    The act of stopping implies they tried to do something in the first place
     
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  21. Henry Blake

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    Not that the media was ever going to cover this honestly, but after they refuse to call out the traitorous lying and malfeasance for 8 months, they're complicit in the lies too.
     
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  22. timo

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    the GOP is a death cult.
     
  23. Beeds07

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    I made it a paragraph
     
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  24. Doc Louis

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    Nope, can be in it until 40.
     
  25. Josey Wales

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    Nah man can’t stop it because ...*provides fake quote exaggerating what leadership in a responsible country would do*

    These fucking people cannot be honest about anything.
     
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  26. Doc Louis

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    Yeah for someone to say "I hate all the negative coverage of this piece of shit, therefore I'm voting for this piece of shit" is quite the flawed logic, to say the least
     
  27. RavenNole

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    “We’re not going to control this pandemic” is such an easy clip to make go viral and pay money to push on social media.
     
  28. indeed

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    We all know this, but the vast majority of his supporters using this and other “reasons” is just window dressing for their bigotry towards “others” and/or outright racism. It’s the central tenant of Trumpism.
     
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  29. RavenNole

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    Dems need to all stay home and stay out of the capital and make this an issue of public safety and irresponsibility to bring in a person who needs to be in quarantine into the senate. And if he tests positive, it becomes a nice win for dems. They could claim that republicans up for re-election should then Quarantine themselves and attack them on a state level if they don’t.

    you won’t win the vote, but you can spin the positively in a political sense if the republicans are going to be this idiotically irresponsible and have pence show up for absolutely no reason.

    the Twitter thread has other republicans comments beyond coward mitchs no comment
     
  30. RavenNole

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  31. afb

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    here is the full AOC vid

     
  32. chuckmasterflex

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    This is the message that opened Talking Head’s eyes to how far gone the left had become.
     
  33. AptosDuck

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    I really really like her
     
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    Pence describing his duties as "essential" got me good. He's the least essential guy in DC.
     
  35. CUAngler

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    I'm going to bet pence had the virus earlier and that's why they aren't changing anything.
     
  36. chuckmasterflex

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    Going to be infuriating if/when Trump loses and he even more actively starts undermining attempts at combating COVID and the press is hounding any democrat they can get their hands about the norm of there being 9 justices on the court like that is important or something.
     
  37. chuckmasterflex

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  38. Josey Wales

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    As if there aren’t enough reasons to already prosecute his pre-presidency crimes to the fullest extent of the law. Still skeptical we’ll see him held too account for anything in the past 4 years.
     
  39. zeberdee

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    one of the downsides of the shitpit posters being gone is we don’t get to read intelligent rebuttals from posters more knowledgeable than me to certain nonsense coming from the right.

    can someone give a primer on what we think
    is actually happening with Hunter Biden’s emails and videos? I find it annoying that a credible news agency hasn’t really posted anything debunking the nonsense we’re seeing from the right-wing media outlets. I guess they’re going with the policy of ignoring it since it’s not credible, but I think it’s a problem when people do a google search and only see bad sources pop up.
     
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  40. Homo Erectus

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    How is he going to be more irresponsible?
     
  41. Where Eagles Dare

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  42. steamengine

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    Incredible quote from cocaine Mitch. Imagine a democrat saying this.

     
  43. fucktx

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  46. RavenNole

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    NYT and I believe the Washington post discussed the problems with the story in detail. The right wing is just doing a million stories a day and getting tons of clicks through Facebook sharing and Fox News peddling it so I understand why their shit is on top of searches.

    if you are saying you want the mainstream media to spend more time and energy on it just so they can get some searches higher up, ill disagree. The less people here, the better.

    I’ve read plenty of good opinions this week about how different this is than Hillary’s emails that all the mainstream media ran with and that this is a non story unless you read hard right wing media or watch Fox News/OAN.
     
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  47. timo

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    yikes. What's the backstory?
     
  48. IV

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    This is very not good