100% our native populations were wronged by our governments. And as a nation we are looking for atonement and forgiveness. We need to make amends.
I wonder if I’d be this depressed about humanity if not for the pandemic? I’d be on the road, but man did that accelerate things. Sheesh. e: tbf a lot of stories about ppl saving lives, first responders, and understanding most close friends and loved ones are sane was nice
I am are you aware of what Canadians have done to First Nations people. Might have used hyperbole in my statement so I understand the flack. I doubt many people in here have any idea what the Canadian government has done and failed to recognize in very recent history in regards to this.
Some of the shit they did in the 20th century is baaaaaaad. I’ve listened to some First Nations oriented true crime podcasts from Canada that touch on it and it’s rough. Also the US was extremely shitty. Not mutually exclusive points.
Actually, Thomas Jefferson preferred slavery where he impregnated his “property”. I bet that chud is like soooo patriotic.
Probably every nation on earth has fucked over its indigenous populations. We shouldn’t get into a who fucked over theirs more competition. IDK if we’d lose but I don’t think we’d come out looking like Gandhi.
Listening to a podcast called “The Line” which goes through the Navy Seals, Eddie Gallagher, and the trial. Very interesting stuff. And very complicated. And extraordinarily fucked up.
D-day? I know that one. that day in 11th grade when Mrs. Smith messed up entering answers on the scantron machine and the highest grade was a D. She was furious until we realized what happened. What a hoot.
Isn't there a thread on dealing with MAGA family members? Did a search and couldn't find it so would be appreciated with someone can link it her. Finally had to cut off contact with parents because of all this and looking for a place to vent
sorry to hear but I couldn’t find one. You can vent in here if you want. I believe I vented in here about my dad awhile back.
My dad has had an array of health issues and the dipshit told me the reason he wasn’t taking the vaccine was ‘because Twitter silenced the 3 scientists that spoke out against it’. never thought my 67 year dad who farms and still uses a flip phone even knew what Twitter was but when I pressed him on it he said ‘tucker Carlson talks all about it’ My step mom literally saw my head explode. All I could say was ‘oh god no’ when he said tucker.
Thanks guys. I'll spoiler it for those that just use this thread for news updates thanks for letting me vent and for the positive posts. still feels weird to have personal stuff like this out on the internet so I deleted the original message
You're in no way overreacting and the only reason you even asked the question is that you were mildly nervous about going into family bs here Brocktoon . (I'm saying you know damn well you aren't overreacting.) Also, not terribly important but - they are the crazy MAGA crowd. It's binary at this point anyway but if they buy that "god using him" nonsense there's no sense in any differentiation.
so sorry man don't think you're over reacting and think you really went about it the right way, it's not just their night time tv shows for everybodyelse, etc.
if you're on the verge of tears after pleading with them, and his response is how "god is using trump" then it's ok to rid them from your life
I’ve never understood the “God is using Trump” line. It is inherently unprovable and I can’t understand how he is better than Bush on anything God would like. What policy does Trump promote that is more “pro-God” than any other mainstream Republican leader?
Bush was an idiot but he didn't suffer from the mental illness and deficiencies that Trump does. Thus, they need to explain away his crazy behavior and all the controversies and corruption he finds himself in.
It sounds like your parents are ignorant and/or very vulnerable to low quality info. Sorry that you went thru that with them. That being said, I wouldn’t listen to anyone on the internet telling you to cut your parents out of your life.
If it all boils down to a lazy God's Will argument, he can also tell his parents that God is using Bernie and AOC too
Thank you for sharing. Really insightful and feel your pain. If you happen to be in Northern MI, happy to take you out for a beer. If not, I'll have one for you right now.
My wife had to cut her parents off following the insurrection. They were Obama voters and went 3rd party in 2016. But since the pandemic, they've gone off the deep end. The insurrection and their justifications for it were the last straw for her. It was extremely difficult, but she's done a ton of self-reflection and analysis of her childhood, upbringing, and her own beliefs/morals since then and, ultimately, she doesn't regret it. She basically came to the conclusion that her parents were low-key always pretty shitty people, but they sort of hid it well. She didn't really see them for who they truly were until they went full mask-off over the last year. It's tough, man. But take solace in knowing that you're on the right side of history.
That’s pretty much religion in a nutshell. Nothing has to be proved because it’s based on faith, and for many people, that involves bending logic to satisfy the pre-existing conclusion.