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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by GoodForAnother, Mar 22, 2017.
Not sure this fits here. It wasn’t at all a good point. Bush was a shitty POTUS and human but he is speaking out against domestic terrorism and this racist is pissy about it
I endorse all criticisms of George W Bush because like 90% of the media and country is hellbent on rehabbing his reputation when he should be imprisoned for war crimes. I award one Pelosi-clap to W for subtweeting without explicitly calling out Trump or even Jan 6th by name.
I guess ppl just assume they’re empty, scumbag grifters. Surely they don’t really believe in overturning democracy!
Sadly, it’s kinda like hoping a POS like Manchin would believe in democracy.
Didn’t recall that Grisham was Press Secretary for awhile; then remembered she’s the one who refused to hold a single WH press briefing. Oh but now she’s ready to talk for $30 a book?
Weird how all these people find their sense of patriotic duty when a seven figure book deal is floated in front of their face
has anyone ever actually seen trump cross the threshold of a church?
He got close once
i wonder had he gotten any closer if he'd have spontaneously combusted?
There was also that time he quoted from two Corinthians at liberty university chapel as well.
There was that one time he went to a black church with his black friend
I think by and large most people don’t have a good Bullshit radar
Weird, you never hear about “Antifa” in the vicinity of R buildings with weapons.
Of course this asshole just had to be from San Diego (Oceanside). We have our share of crazies sad to say.
What an idiot.
Jfc. We're being governed by the comments section of Facebook
Recently retired Detroit Chief of Police announced he was going to run for Governor as a Republican. Off to a great start.
And obviously Craig’s staff knew what they were doing. The Fox News lovers will eat this up. He isn’t going to be close inWayne though IMO, and that’ll be ballgame.
What is this actually referring to? I don't watch Fox News to know what snippet of a soundbite they edited to brainwash people with this time.
Some shitheel R from PA castigated Blinken yesterday for not appearing in person during a pandemic surge. Cool cool.
Isn’t it really about whether he can keep it close in Oakland?
information that definitely should have waited for a BOOK
Woodward is such a fuckwad
Anakin, you’re breaking my heart
It's like we're all watching a reality show that we pretend doesn't affect us at all. Like waiting to binge some Netflix show. Weird.
if you don’t overthrow the country you’re not invited to my birthday party
I suppose this is true, and after John James, I guess it can’t be discounted. I still think it’ll boil down to turn out in Wayne though. Detroit seems galvanized to vote against him at this point
John James was presented as a rational businessman the suburbs could buy in to while still pulling some Black vote. James Craig doesn't seem as likely to do that. Either way.
Honestly if I’m a European country or Canada right now reading about the nukes I’d be pissed
That this was even considered is world news
wow didn't know anything about this
Daily Kos is getting sued by a wealthy anti-vaxxer and this suit is getting expensive. That's why I'm asking you to donate $5 right now to help offset the cost of our defense
TMB, as you might remember, anti-vax crusader Robert Kennedy Jr has gone to court attempting to force Daily Kos to reveal the identity of one of our community members, who wrote a story critical of his attendance at a rally in Berlin organized and attended by Nazis.
To summarize, Kennedy filed in New York. He claims that he has to know the identity of the community member in order to have someone to sue for defamation. It’s all a sham, an effort to dox the user (out their identity), as shown by the fact that Kennedy hasn’t sued any of the media outlets that reported on the neo-Nazi rally, nor has he sued me for literally repeating the claims made in that community story. For whatever reason, Kennedy wants to know the identity of someone who criticized him anonymously, and is willing to spend real money to find out. We, at Daily Kos, are standing directly in his way.
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The trial judge in New York was like “whatever” and authorized a subpoena compelling us to reveal all that information. Problem is, Daily Kos isn’t in New York, nor are any of its corporate officers. So Kennedy has to try to enforce the subpoena in California. The main case is still being litigated in New York, it’s on appeal, but the battle over the subpoena shifted to the Golden State.
The community member is now represented pro bono by the good folks at Public Citizen. They moved to quash the subpoena and got a November 1 court date to hear the case. Kennedy then filed a separate, parallel action and asked the California court to force Daily Kos to comply with the New York subpoena, trying to keep the community member from having their day in court. We moved to get both cases heard at the same time, November 1.
Kennedy’s lawyers were furious and filed paper after paper in California (and undoubtedly have spent thousands and thousands of dollars in legal fees) attempting to have the subpoena enforced against Daily Kos NOW! IMMEDIATELY! even before anyone could be heard in court. But just this week a trial judge in California shot them down, twice, on consecutive days.
As the Trial Court made clear to Kennedy and his lawyers, this matter will be heard on the merits on November 1 and the Court will allow both Daily Kos and the blogger to be heard on all of our arguments.
Fortunately for us (and the First Amendment), California (as compared to New York) has adopted safeguards against doxxing anonymous speech and our argument is that those California rules protect Daily Kos and the blogger from Kennedy’s vindictive exercise against one of our community members, notwithstanding the New York ruling.
Note that we haven’t stopped fighting in New York. We are appealing the New York Trial Court’s decision and we will argue strenuously that New York should adopt First Amendment safeguards like those we have in my home state and about a dozen others.
In any case, as I think everyone can see, there is obviously no compelling need for Kennedy and his anti-vax, anti-science, and anti-health followers to dox that community member now, or ever. It’s clear and obvious that there will never be a defamation case even if their identity was revealed. As a public figure, Kennedy has no legal right to stifle criticism of his politics, which is why he’s never bothered suing any other media outlet for defamation, us and me included.
The facts are clear: Kennedy is one of the most dangerous anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists in the entire country. His quackery has likely killed people. He attended a rally organized and attended by Nazis. Kennedy wouldn’t prevail in a libel lawsuit even if he wasn’t a public figure. The truth is an absolute defense.
But remember, this isn’t a libel case. This is a weird vendetta case to identify the identity of some random critic of his online. What kind of sick perverted mind would spend that kind of money to out some random person online? I guess the same kind of sick perverted mind that would kill people rather than see them vaccinated.
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woodward deserves some really really bad things to happen to him fwiw
I just can’t believe he would sit on any of this shit, so out of touch
Is this an Erik Prince thing?
basically everything being tweeted was reported in real time
not by woodward obviously
Shit maybe I just don’t remember it, but I feel like we would have spoken about the t
A wild Dan Quayle appears to in a small way fend off fascism
I certainly hope so
Today I learned Robert Kennedy Jr is married to Cheryl Hines what the fuck, Cheryl?
I don’t recall Milley needing to tell the Chinese military that we aren’t going to attack them as something that was reported or that he felt it necessary to take abnormal steps to insert himself into the nuclear launch process.
I’m honestly not sure how to feel about the China comments. I assume direct relationships below the President can be pretty candid and personal, but I don’t know if he crossed a line. I would love to read opinions on it. I feel like he is going to be murdered by news outlets.
fair on the china thing being truly new
We were all hoping, praying, panicking about whether or not there were any serious adults left at the end. It is good to know that there were. I’m not big on applauding generals, but he deserves credit.
In a situation where damn near every politician w/ an R next to their name, most people in the trump admin failed to do. He did the right thing.
The dangerous thing is that Gen. Mike Flynn doing this to Pres. Obama is likely motivated by malevolence.
This is really an example of the president being too powerful.
Well done Kentucky/ Unexpected, but well done
Laugh out fucking loud, Wisconsin republicans are atop the worst
Relevant bill text:
Current law prohibits a person from manufacturing, distributing, or delivering, or possessing with intent to manufacture, distribute, or deliver, marijuana. The penalties for violating the prohibition range from a Class I felony to a Class E felony, depending on the amount of marijuana involved. Under this bill, the penalty increases to a Class E felony, regardless of the amount of marijuana involved, if the person uses butane extraction in the manufacturing of the marijuana or in separating the plant resin from a marijuana plant.
Current law also prohibits a person from possessing marijuana. The penalty for violating the prohibition is a Class A misdemeanor for a first offense and a Class I felony if the person has previously been convicted of a controlled substances crime.
Under this bill, the penalty for such a repeat offense is greater if the marijuana the person possesses is resin that has been directly or indirectly separated from a marijuana plant by butane extraction. The penalties for possession of such resin vary based on the amount: three grams or less is a Class H felony; more than three grams but not more than 10 grams is a Class G felony; more than 10 grams but not more than 50 grams is a Class F felony; and more than 50 grams is a Class E felony.
Fuck man, even KENTUCKY is contemplating legalization