Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. herb.burdette

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    If public money is going to private schools, I would love to see it directly tied to passing your local school levy.

    No levy, no vouchers.
     
  2. Where Eagles Dare

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    If any money went to a private school, then that school should be forced to accept anyone who wants to attend...since it's now a public school
     
  3. Lawnole23

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    In Tampa, the public charter and IB schools are all lottery, at least IBs are. My oldest goes to an IB and my youngest will start there. We love it. Dress code. Rich kids, middle class kids, poor kids. Every single race and ethnicity in the area. They spend a ton of time on learning about world cultures, music and art.
     
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  4. timo

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    So is this money going to private nonprofits or private for profits?

    Private for profits get to skirt a whole host of building codes / environmental regulations. Pretty sure they're exempt from ADA compliance... for profits don't have to inspect for asbestos under fed law.
     
  5. BudKilmer

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    especially if their mascot is “knights” or some variation of.
     
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  6. The.Barron.of.Miles

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    Crusaders
     
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  7. Hank Scorpio

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    Unfortunately the closest IB Middle School to us is 20 min away in Odessa. We have friends in our area talking about sending their kids there, but I just don't think we can swing it with our work schedules. But thankfully our zoned middle school is A-rated and our zoned High School just got an IB program recently, so that's nice.
     
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  8. Bo Pelinis

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    Start with reevaluating just how many dipshits need to be administrators. Perhaps paying teachers more money would keep admin staff down but admin creep just to get paid like a professional is v bad.
     
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  9. Lawnole23

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    Yeah no idea why they're so spaced apart. Not sure South Tampa needs two IB K-8 either.
     
  10. Bo Pelinis

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    Robust social safety net would solve a ton of problems that manifest themselves at school. Most issues stem from low SES and education amongst parents. Make it so they're not scratching and clawing just to get by and I imagine the kids would be better off. And it might actually stop the cycle because the kids that grow up that way are more often than not the parents of the kids that are the problem ~20 years down the road.

    The other end of the spectrum is white people problem type parents where nothing is their kids' fault and every dinky bullshit problem is a major issue. Not sure how to address that one.
     
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  11. dblplay1212

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    Sorry to change the subject but is this asshole getting arrested today?
     
  12. Lawnole23

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    Rumor was indicted today and he turns himself in next week.
     
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  13. dblplay1212

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    What's protocol here? We popping fireworks on indictment or when he turns himself in? Maybe a few bottle rockets on indictment and the big ones on him turning himself in?
     
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  14. Lawnole23

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    I'm shooting every firework I can purchase all at once just to see how many Nextdoor posts pop up complaining that their dog hid under the bed for 35 seconds and it's the greatest tragedy in world history.
     
  15. MJH

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  16. Mister Me Too

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    I wish HBO would get rid of Maher and give John Stewart a show:

     
  17. chuckmasterflex

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  18. Artoo

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    I do still have a soft spot for Jon Stewart. And I love the Twitter trend of posting a serious statement from someone like Stewart, or Prishad, or Parenti over a video game speed run as a way of engaging zoomers. Idk if it's effective at all, but I love it
     
  19. steamengine

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    As someone who works in education policy i can definitively say charter schools are bad for students, not only for those who go to them, but also for those who do not. So we can move on.
     
  20. glimmer

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    i think the lower screen being unrelated is just to have it not get picked up by an algorithm as copyrighted content. same reason the audio seems kinda sped up
     
  21. skiedfrillet

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    can you elaborate? i'm interested in learning more about this to combat my stupid friends
     
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  22. Upton^2

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    Currently reading The Color Of Law and it goes basically line by line thru what Stewart mentions here
     
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  23. Mister Me Too

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    Are you saying that you are studying up on CRT?

    [​IMG]
     
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  24. steamengine

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    Their whole value proposition is that they improve education outcomes of students in economically disadvantaged geographies by inserting charters where failing schools exist. They also claim to send a higher percentage of students to colleges than regular K-12.

    What the data shows actually happens is:

    -Their student are I’ll equipped for college and are more likely to fail or drop out
    -Even though they promise college there are still a large portion of “college ready” charter students not pursuing higher ed
    -They take resources from general k12 public ed so on average per student and teacher the whole system is strained
    -Because the system is more strained people continue to throw bombs at public ed and we look for additional band aid fixes like, say, more charters or even worse, private school vouchers
     
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  25. AptosDuck

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    This is entirely not true for the charter school that my kids have attended
     
  26. steamengine

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    Yours was probably a charter the way they were originally designed, not the way they’ve been scaled.
     
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  27. AptosDuck

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    UCSC academics saw that Santa Cruz School District wasn't giving their kids a sufficiently rigorous education that prepared them for university life, so they designed a school and curriculum to remedy that. Nothing about economically disadvantaged; this was already a pretty good school system and well-funded. Just not rigorous enough for their liking. Critical thinking training is off the charts compared to the regular high schools (I've sent kids through both), although the size of the school means that certain extracurriculars are lacking (no robotics club, unfortunately)
     
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  28. Daniel Ocean

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    make funding more efficient. Using neighborhood property tax the way you fund schools keeps the disparity between public schools huge.
     
  29. Where Eagles Dare

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    "all data" vs your anecdotal data point is the difference.
     
  30. Artoo

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    Hell yeah, an extremely specific anecdote that very clearly proves Charter schools are good. Perfect
     
  31. AptosDuck

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    I wasn't the one painting with the overbroad brush, but thanks for your input!
     
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  32. Prospector

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    HA! Jesus is a liberal :quagmire:

    After Trump's online prayer session glitches out, he weirdly blames the 'radical left'

    Imagine if progressives really were as shrewd, Machiavellian, and self-interested as conservatives like to claim we are. What if there was some dark, sinister purpose—yet to be revealed—behind Michael Dukakis putting on that tank helmet? Or maybe we really did steal the 2020 election with Italian satellites and Jewish space lasers, just so millions of beleaguered MAGA voters who passionately hate us could have free school lunches and a lifetime guarantee of health care.

    Unfortunately, most meetings of our shadowy, one-world-government cabal devolve into screaming matches over whether the granola bars Jeremy brought are actually vegan, since they were made in a facility that processes honey.
    Trump reportedly told friends he wantsa perpwalk, thinks it'll be a'fun experience'

    Speaking of pointless caterwauling, Donald Trump recently participated in a prayer session that a group of his supporters hosted online, presumably so he could venerate, exalt, and glorify the ineffable, transcendent, eternal god of the universe without having to put on pants before noon. And when things didn’t go as swimmingly as everything else in his life, Trump blamed evil liberals. Natch.

    Monday’s Pastors for Trump National Prayer Call—meant to stop prosecutors from holding a lifelong con man accountable to the rule of law—featured kooky Trump confederates Roger Stone and Gen. Michael Flynn, and apparently it was infiltrated, somehow, by the “radical left.”

    Shortly after Trump joined the call, host Jackson Lahmeyer, who describes himself as a pastor and entrepreneur, asked him what specific prayer request Trump had for the pastors on the call.

    At that point, Trump's audio disconnected. The guests sat in awkward silence for a couple of minutes before Trump managed to reconnect to the call.

    "Okay, I guess we have some phone miscommunication. And I think what happened was that the radical left was working on the phone. There is no question about it," Trump claimed, without providing further evidence.

    Oh, and here’s the cued-up audio in case you think he was joking. (He may later try to claim he was being “sarcastic,” but he clearly doesn’t know what that word means. And if he was joking, he was doing a pretty good job of hiding it.)

    How nice would it be to 1) have so little shame you can just make things up on the spot out of whole cloth and expect them to be believed and 2) actually have an army of sycophants at your beck and call who will believe such things?

    It’s like Kyle Rittenhouse—and basically every other dopey right-winger with no coherent argument—blurting out “George Soros!” whenever they need a handy bugaboo to blame their troubles on. It’s all (antisemitic) nonsense, of course. They act like every last dollar progressives earn comes from Soros, but that’s absurd. For instance, he only pays me when I can organically weave the word “smegma” into one of my stories. Oh, and ... ka-ching!

    But when you have no actual policy prescriptions for anything, all you can really do is point at the other side—like Donald Sutherland in Invasion of the Body Snatchers—and shriek incomprehensibly about the evil they do. Never mind how paranoid it might sound.

    And in case you think this was just a Trump thing—oh, no. The paranoia over liberal omnipotence (which somehow comports with conservatives’ fevered notions about our irredeemable incompetence) wasn’t simply limited to the conspiracy-monger-in-chief. The Daily Beast:

    Subsequently, far-right website The Gateway Pundit claimed in a follow-up article that a sinister—and unidentifiable—force was to blame.

    “We don’t know at this time what happened with the call with President Trump and why the administrators were kicked off their normally very reliable Internet,” editor Joe Hoft, who was also on the call, wrote. “It could have been call volume, or it could have been outside sabotage or something else.”

    In a phone interview with The Daily Beast on Monday night, Pastors for Trump founder Jackson Lahmeyer said that “trolls” might have been behind the snafu—flooding into the backstage virtual call room.

    Or maybe you’re all ridiculous fuckups? Ockham’s razor cuts right to the quick, man.

    You can watch the whole blessed event in the YouTube clip above, but if you want an aperitif, there’s this bit of blather from Roger Stone, the Trump confidant whose sentence Trump corruptly commuted in July 2020:

    STONE: “It is now vitally important that every American pray for the safety of President Trump and his family and his enormous courage in this moment. As I said earlier, I spoke to him Sunday morning. He called me, we prayed together on the phone, he was in an excellent mood. He is a man completely without fear because he puts his faith in the Lord.”

    Yeah, I know whenever I think of Trump, I picture a guy totally devoid of fear who leaves all his troubles to the Lord. That’s him to a T. Once again, MAGA nails it. And once again, they’ve foiled our dastardly plot.

    Curses!
     
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  33. chuckmasterflex

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  34. Tobias

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    mr trump sir this idea is great hopefully the woke mob won’t say no

     
  35. BudKilmer

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    Trump getting cuffed, perp walked, and then finding a way to blame meatball Ron for it is definitely going to fill my spank bank for a while
     
  36. chuckmasterflex

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    “I don’t care if I get shot.” - Donald Trump
     
  37. Tobias

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    he says in that article that he thinks getting shot will guarantee him reelection and i think this is a theory that needs to be tested out irl
     
  38. Bruce Wayne

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  39. Josey Wales

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    He should tweet that. His tweets have a way of…nvm.

    But seriously he’s a chicken shit and that is laughable.
     
  40. ~ taylor ~

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    It never is...
     
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  41. kezarmyaj

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    figured he would have wanted to get wheeled out like hannibal lecter
     
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  43. Where Eagles Dare

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    Hopefully a good school would help your children understand sample size and they can teach it to you
     
  44. westcoastbias

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    I have another anecdote. The school district my hometown in rural Oregon is in was going to close the local k-5 school due to budget. Kids were going to be bused 30 minutes to another school in the district and it would have increased class sizes by 30%.

    The school transitioned to a charter school and stayed open. Felt like a good outcome for the district, teachers and kids.
     
  45. Bo Pelinis

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    How did that work?
     
  46. zeberdee

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    I'm guessing the first thing that happened was the teachers took a paycut.
     
  47. westcoastbias

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    I have no idea. They ended the school year as public and started the next year as a charter.
     
  48. ned's head

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    Finally, "what are you gonna do, stab me" guy will get out of the box
     
  49. chuckmasterflex

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    Even I’m not a big enough fuckwad to tell a pollster I’m supporting Condoleezza Rice in the Republican primary with a straight face.