Trumpocalypse: Reluctant high fives

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  1. prerecordedlive

    prerecordedlive Matthew Gertz is my real Congressman
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    It’s been said in here before but why the fuck should any of us care about Israel when we have our own country to worry about?

    I despise their treatment of Palestinians as much as I despise our treatment of Latino refugees.
     
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  2. Cawgs or Gie!

    Cawgs or Gie! The next Jordy Nelson, obviously.
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    Sheldon adelson says hold my beer.
     
  3. Lyrtch

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    the only quasi-defensible reason is as part of a foreign policy platform

    but that platform has not worked well at all so it's losing ground as reasonable
     
  4. AlternativeFactsRule

    AlternativeFactsRule Mmm ... Coconuts
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    The media and google bias against conservatives is in some sense real, but it isn’t because they oppose conservatives or the Republican Party. It’s because they seek to present objective truth and modern conservatism directly opposes that.
     
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  5. afb

    afb Spoiler Alert: Pawnee, IN may not be on a map.
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    are they hanging out in a storage unit?
     
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  6. AlternativeFactsRule

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    The US has a shameful legacy of denying refuge to German Jews fleeing the Nazis. It’s why we have the refugee policy we have now. It’s why HIAS is so active in refugee resettlement in this country. And it informs our national discussion about the nation of Israel.
     
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  7. Where Eagles Dare

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    But why Chinese food tho?
     
  8. RSK

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  9. Josey Wales

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    For some people. For others it’s corruption and lobbying, just as it is with the Saudis. Money, not religious affiliation.
     
  10. Tobias

    Tobias doubtful...not with brexit
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    some variation of "they all look the same"
     
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  11. Lyrtch

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    in going back to find his tweets about it its actually a complete boycott of all asian foods

    and his Dad was 1 years old at the time of pearl harbor

    my apologies
     
  12. PeterGriffin

    PeterGriffin Iced and/or sweet tea is for dirty rednecks.
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    It's the new cheap way to start a bar. This hip place in Phoenix is just like a dozen storage units and then a sort of ceiling overhead with some big fans. It might sound like I am disparaging the concept but it can work effectively.
     
  13. Lyrtch

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    btw this will always be the strangest coalition


     
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  14. Where Eagles Dare

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  15. Where Eagles Dare

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    Palestinians aren't refugees rho
     
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  16. Can I Spliff it

    Can I Spliff it Is Butterbean okay?
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    Reps: "The card says Moops"
     
  17. Where Eagles Dare

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    Lyrtch is FAKE NEWS
     
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  18. Where Eagles Dare

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    Fuck em
     
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  19. Gaknight

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    Am I supposed to feel bad for them?
     
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  20. Fran Tarkenton

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    Wat no. They got what they deserved.
     
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  21. Tug

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    Well, you’re going to end up paying for their survival.
     
  22. Gaknight

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    That's what I meant
     
  23. TAXTAXTAX

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    Maybe it's solidarity related to how our country handled the natives. We basically perfected the process.
     
  24. Truman

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    There's a fine line that's being straddled between the anti-semetic rhetoric of jews control the world w their money ect, and pointing out criticims of the Israeli government. I think it would be prudent for her to distinctly clarify that line.

    Because like or not, her words will get skewed towards the former
     
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  25. steamengine

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    On one hand I dislike the judeo-Christian Zionist Pency-Bibi alliance trying to expedite Revelations.

    In the other hand, this all kind of sucks.
     
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  26. BellottiBold

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    I have some relatives in Brentwood :feelsbadman:
     
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  27. RSK

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    Pelosi statement :meh:

     
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  28. Prospector

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    congrats on having rich family members
     
  29. Doc Louis

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    At least they have a nice Corky's to eat at
     
  30. bro

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    Evangelicals care more than Jews, which should tell you everything
     
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  31. TAS

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    QUOTE="RSK, post: 14009037, member: 160"]Pelosi statement :meh:

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  32. afb

    afb Spoiler Alert: Pawnee, IN may not be on a map.
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  33. Prospector

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  35. Mister Me Too

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    Never admit defeat, when your stupidity comes to light double down on it:

     
  36. Truman

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    TIL there are more hosts on info wars than just Alex Jones. Somewhat surprised by that. Not at all surprised it's Roger Stone.
     
  37. Daniel Ocean

    Daniel Ocean I only lied about being a thief
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    How about if I am half black
     
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  38. sflnole

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    At the request of AIPAC and Hiam Saban, Nancy Pelosi and Jane Harman pushed the Bush administration to release two Israeli spies, who were caught sending US classified info to Israel, in exchange for dropping the Bush warrantless wiretap investigations.

    Israel is more important to these politicians than our own national security, that's how influential AIPAC is.
     
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  39. The Banks

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    Do we have any evangelicals on the board? We have to with as many southerners as we have.
     
  40. RSK

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    This is a pretty good breakdown and talks about some of that AIPAC influence

     
  41. TAS

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    Sure why not

     
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  42. Can I Spliff it

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    Kind of? Like, there's not really way to broach it without someone going "So are you saying jews are buying politicians?" because so much of the american jewish experience, especially for jewish people over the age of 30, has been ridicule via "jewish gold" this or "controlling the media, " that, having pennies thrown at them (reading from the twitter discussions in the replies to matt yglesias and ilhan omar,) while, in tandem, being told that Israel is the essence and most pure, here-is-a-space-for-us safe place thing for American Jews. Its years of built up trauma reinforcing bad faith marketing that built a reactionary defense of the Israeli government at even the slightest criticism.

    It's by design too, the government and organizations liken as much as they can between Jewish identity and the state itself. Pushing against thay grain at all has led to some embarrassing shit on trips like birthright - most recently, the organization wouldnt pay for return trips (this is part of the deal) americans because people were arguing with the guides that they wanted to meet and speak with palestinians on the other side of fences and what not. Moreover, speak with younger israelis and they absolutely hate Likud (Bibi's party) and resent American supporters because that support wholly undermines goals to, you know, stop the really awful shit.

    Theres also a really big and good repository of former IDF speaking out against how they were ordered to treat Palestinians, by an organization named Breaking The Silence.

    Even putting that aside, the horror that ethiopian jews have had to endure at the hand of the gov in trying to get refugee status has been a big scandal there lately and, of course, their boomers couldnt care less

    Anyway, yeah.
     
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  43. prerecordedlive

    prerecordedlive Matthew Gertz is my real Congressman
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    I’d imagine they’ve been laughed off the board for having shit for brains by now.

    We have some Christians on the board still and they seem pretty reasonable and like fine folks.

    There’s a fine line between being a Christian and being an evangelical Christian, though. I can get down with some Jesus teachings all day. I can’t get down with believing the vast majority of the Old Testament or thinking an ancient book is still super relevant when the founding document of our own country is horribly outdated after less than 250 years.
     
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  44. Prospector

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    Four Key Takeaways from Roger Stone’s Eye-Opening New Yorker Interview
    by Matt Naham | 12:29 pm, February 11th, 2019



    The New Yorker‘s Jeffrey Toobin, otherwise seen on CNN providing legal analysis, penned a wide-ranging interview that included quotes from Roger Stone on a number of subjects including the fate of Paul Manafort, the meaning of statements made to WikiWitness Randy Credico, and Stone’s trial strategy heading forward. Here we’ll breakdown the biggest takeaways.

    Stone Defense Strategy

    Roger Stone absolutely plans on testifying in his own defense. Actually, it will be a crucial component of his defense, Stone lawyer Bruce Rogow said. Stone, someone who firmly believes that staying silent makes people think you’re guilty, will “definitely take the stand in his own defense,” Rogow said, adding, “It will be key to the case.”

    Stone himself chalked up the legal predicament he is in as an elaborate plot by Democrats and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (whom he referred to as “Leather Face”) to put Hillary Clinton in the White House.

    “Those who think the Mueller investigation will die out with a whimper are dreaming,” he said. “This is a pretext to allow them to remove both Trump and Pence and replace them with Leather Face—I mean, Nancy Pelosi—and then she can appoint Hillary Clinton as V.P. That’s been the agenda from the beginning.” He said that will be on the attack in his defense.

    “We’re going to fight them on every piece of evidence, fight them on every witness. We are going to concede nothing,” Stone said.

    Stone faces seven counts including obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of making false statements, and one count of witness tampering. The witness he’s accused of tampering with (Credico) and the statements he’s accused of lying about happen to involve WikiLeaks, which was the recipient of the documents allegedly hacked by Russian military intelligence.

    Speaking of Randy Credico…

    Stone disputed a specific characterization of his communication with Credico.

    Remember in the indictment that Stone was accused of telling “Person 2″ to “do a “Frank Pentangeli,” which was a reference to the movie The Godfather Part II, where a person testifying before Congress “claims not to know critical information that he does in fact know.”

    That “Person 2” was Randy Credico, and Stone claims that he was not telling Credico to lie, but to do his “Frank Pentangeli impression.”

    “But this is all wrong. Randy is an impressionist,” Stone claimed. “He does impressions. I was asking him to do his Frank Pentangeli impression. I wasn’t telling Randy to lie.”

    Credico himself was quoted in the article saying that Mueller and his people are amount to a veritable hydra of fictional savants in detective work. He also said, “they know what happened.”

    “I don’t know why Roger gave up my name to them as his source about WikiLeaks,” he said. “Why did he buckle without even getting a fucking subpoena? He gave up a name. That’s called ratting.”

    “Those people are like Columbo and Sherlock Holmes and Hercule Poirot combined, and you can’t fucking lie to them,” he added. “Why would you try? They have all the e-mails. They know what happened.”

    Some Thoughts About Paul Manafort

    The Stone and Manafort connection goes back decades, and though they had gone somewhat in their separate ways, Stone is well aware that the link will not disappear. Stone remembered Manafort, interestingly enough, as a guy who was “very familiar with the rules.”

    “Manafort and I are both from Connecticut, which was the last state in the country that still selects its candidates in statewide conventions,” he said. “And the rules are identical to the national-convention rules, as are the Young Republican National Federation rules, as are the College Republican National Convention rules—so Manafort was very familiar with the rules.”

    He then alluded to Manafort’s wealth, saying he was “rolling at a much higher level than yours truly.” Stone further recalled thinking, as he was trying to assess what WikiLeaks had, that Manafort was “getting the shit kicked out of him for his business dealings in Ukraine.”

    A Word from Jerome Corsi on Birtherism

    Right-wing author and conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi was also quoted on a couple of subjects. One of them had to do with President Donald Trump. Corsi claimed that he spoke with Trump several times regarding his Barack Obama “birtherism research.”

    “He would call me, or they would e-mail me and say, ‘Mr. Trump would like to speak with you,’ and I would get a time and he would call and he would have some issues on his mind that he wanted to review, and the conversations would typically last ten, fifteen minutes—very polite,” he said. Corsi, whose encounter with the special counsel memorably went from plea deal, to plea deal falling apart, to multi-million dollar lawsuit, to accusing Roger Stone of trying to give him a stroke, once again explained his support of Trump for the “Kafkaesque nightmare” he is experiencing.

    “The United States under the Deep State masters has begun to descend into a political Hell that I previously thought could only happen under Hitler’s Gestapo, Stalin’s KGB, or Mao’s Cultural Revolution. My particular Kafkaesque nightmare is nothing more than punishment for the crime of being a vocal supporter of Donald Trump and for having worked with Roger Stone to promote Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign,” he said.

    Perhaps the most bizarre detail highlighted in the story was that Corsi was apparently scandalized that Mueller prosecutor Jeannie Rhee once wore a “see-through blouse” at a grand jury session.

    “I was shocked to see that Rhee was wearing what appeared to be an expensive, possibly designer-made see-through blouse,” Corsi said in an e-book on the Mueller investigation. “Maybe my seventy-two years were showing but I had never imagined any woman would appear before a grand jury exposing her breasts to public view through a see-through blouse.”
     
  45. Beeds07

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    Again, I get it, but I had a moment where I thought about things logically. I totally get where my error came from.
     
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