Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. Name P. Redacted

    Name P. Redacted I have no money and I'm also gay
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    I suspect it's the unique mix of people that Trump has forced to move into the "not Republican" camp.
     
  2. Lyrtch

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    *company gets giant shiny new subsidy, fires 2,000 employees, massive stock buyback, CEO buys a new yacht and beach house*

    well thats their perogative

    *someone should be able to buy a birthday cake with their SNAP bandaid on our broken economic and food systems*

    REEEEEEEE IM SO MAD ARE YOU DUMB WHATS WRONG WITH YOU
     
  3. VaxRule

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    Ah, so we should really just give the poors only the basic daily sustenance required. Gruel for poors. Forget SNAP all together. Do away with the charade of choice that it affords entirely. After all, it could be used to exceed the basic nutritional needs of the human using it.
     
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  4. Arkadin

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    It proves that we can't even assure the food is available to be shipped (it wasn't) or is packaged to specifications (it wasn't). It's not like they put the food on a boat and couldn't get it to the people. Getting food to massive aid stations in Puerto Rico that are already receiving and distributing other supplies should probably be easier than door to door delivery daily across america
     
  5. DelapThrows

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    literally no one here agrees with this part
     
  6. cutig

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    :roll: at thinking any bullshit food box would be anything more than a massive amount of taxpayer money being funneled into a private corporation
     
  7. Scblue

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    I heard soylent green is not only delicious and nutritious, but also extremely budget friendly and efficient!
     
  8. Lyrtch

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  9. NilesIrish

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    No, I'm not. i'm pointing out that logistics would be terrible, also, if these items were the "healthy" items these people need what do you think is going into their carts when they go shop since they can't handle themselves and we need to become a nanny state?

    In theory the idea is solid, in practice. lol no.
     
  10. dome foam

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    is this a joke I’m missing? give poor people booze and cigs because their life is so hard that’s the only way to numb the pain?

    something something this is why you lost the election.
     
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  11. bryix

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    so what about people who use SNAP that are either homeless or lack a permanent residence? food sensitivities/allergies?
     
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  12. LetItSoak

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    Literally no one is suggesting this and your immediate move to comically inaccurate straw men is embarrassing and beneath you.
     
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  13. Hoss Bonaventure

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    They die?
     
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  14. VaxRule

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    But it is what you are doing. You are defining what is acceptable nutrition for the poor.
     
  15. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin tough love makes better posters
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    To be fair. The $156 million contract Arkadin is crying about actually went to a small minority, woman owned business.
     
  16. Prospector

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    SNAP isn't basic income, it is for food. Basic Income would be the vice slice of pie
     
  17. LuPoor

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    I don't think it's a joke you're missing, I think it's that you believe the poor don't deserve any happiness.
     
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  18. bertwing

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    Think of all the jobs it would create!
     
  19. Name P. Redacted

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    pardon my sexism for a minute but...

    NO WONDER THE SHIPMENTS GOT LOST HAHAHAHAHAHA
     
  20. Arkadin

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    'crying about'. This is a conversation about providing food to US citizens who need it
     
  21. Frank Martin

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    Diabetes and obesity seems like an odd definition of happiness.
     
  22. LuPoor

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    I'm sure this will be the time you argue in good faith. Go fantasize about shooting a minority, you loser.
     
  23. LetItSoak

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    No, I'm defining whiskey as not supplementing nutrition and SNAP literally stands for SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. If you want a supplemental intoxication assistance program that's your prerogative but conflating nutrition and whiskey is absurd and I know you're not that dense.
     
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  24. dome foam

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    :dubioustrump:
     
  25. Frank Martin

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    Yeah and we have ample evidence that this would be logistically possible.

    But you’re not trying to have a legitimate conversation
     
  26. PeterGriffin

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    Boy, I would just love to see what one of these boxes would contain. We're literally having a bitchfest in here in both directions because we don't know what these box recipients would be provided. I assume it'll be bullshit and inoperable though, but that's just because of who is currently calling the shots.
     
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  27. Schadenfred

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    Since you brought up Reagan's "welfare queen," which was coined in 1976...

    Adult obesity rate in 1976: about 13%.
    Adult obesity rate in 2017: about 38%.


    Obesity is an epidemic of massive proportions, pun intended. Severe times call for severe measures. This country is in dire need of a comprehensive plan to battle clinical obesity. Restricting SNAP purchases is merely one prong.

    But, yes, we're the Land of the Free™, so no one has a right to take away my Mountain Dew and Ding Dongs even if I'm not in a position to afford it on my own.
     
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  28. Hoss Bonaventure

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    It was a massive cluster fuck for Harvey and Irma as well. I was pulled from my branch and put on the FEMA team. Let’s just say it was the definition of cluster fuck.
     
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  29. Merica

    Merica Devine pls stop pointing out my demise. :(
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    How do they get it now? I honestly don't know. PO Box?
     
  30. DelapThrows

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    But he's going by what is pretty scientifically defined as "nutrition"

    Like... I totally get both sides in this argument, and neither of you want bad things happen to poor people. Both of you have their best interest at heart, but of course... to that... you are going to say that it is patronizing and talking down to the poor.

    And the dance continues...
     
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  31. DelapThrows

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    It's a debit card system. Money is replenished on the card.
     
  32. Arkadin

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    Can you cite the ample evidence that the government can provide timely nutrition to 44 million people
     
  33. Frank Martin

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    It’s sad how bitter and angry you are at life.
     
  34. VaxRule

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    And soda and candy and cookies. You are arguing that you should be able to tell people which food and beverage calories are acceptable and which aren’t because you feel you have a better idea of what they need than they do.
     
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  35. Merica

    Merica Devine pls stop pointing out my demise. :(
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    How the hell do some of you trust the government to provide Universal Health Care but not to get food to people?
     
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  36. Schadenfred

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    I'd venture to say that the average proximity between SNAP users and Walmart is pretty darn short.
     
  37. LetItSoak

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    You're moving the goalposts again because you know your position of "SNAP should buy booze,"which is what we're arguing, is absurd. I'll accept your white flag and move on.
     
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  38. Merica

    Merica Devine pls stop pointing out my demise. :(
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    What does this even mean? :laugh:
     
  39. DelapThrows

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    The government wouldn't be providing the healthcare directly, just paying for it. Big difference.
     
  40. Arkadin

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    Moving billions of pounds of food to all corners of the country is kind of different logistically
     
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  41. Frank Martin

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    How often do you get mail delivered to your home? But I’m sure you go weeks without receiving mail at times.
     
  42. LuPoor

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    Big difference between the time and resources required to cut a check to a doctor's office and the time required to box up and distribute material goods.
     
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  43. Merica

    Merica Devine pls stop pointing out my demise. :(
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    I'm sure they wouldn't be providing the food either. They'd outsource it to companies who would then outsource the shipping to Fedex, UPS, etc.
     
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  44. Lyrtch

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    got some evidence this will help?

    because access to adequate health care, financial security, and free time are the best correlates for personal health

    your policy seems to be policy making off a stigmatizing myth of impoverished people being dumb, maybe we should address the food system that creates by far the most calories/$ and low preparation burden on shitty foods. since when you're working crazy hours, have now financial security, and a few extra $$ for food it goes towards calories per $ and low preparation time.
     
  45. Frank Martin

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    People like TwoPoor are willing to be irrational to support their own opinion.

    They don’t realize they’re just as bad as the republicans who elected to trump.
     
  46. Hoss Bonaventure

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    “People shouldn’t rely on the government to provide for them.”

    What about delivering them their food?

    “That’s different!”