Maybe. At the end of it they need to get by the filibuster in the senate and the Ds have said they will filibuster before giving in on border wall funding. I would consider that taking a stand even if the shutdown is (rightly) blamed on the Rs.
Tell me a better way to keep poor people from uniting to fight for causes important to them than keeping them perpetually separated by race? Hell you can't even use religion since the majority of the poor in the U.S. are more devout Christians than the middle-upper class.
Maybe. I think Pelosi and Schumer have done a pretty good job at keeping their respective caucuses together though. Opposing is a helluva lot easier and much less politically difficult than enacting legislation and making policy - they are slowly figuring that out imo.
Was thinking about that last night. Trump hasn't passed a damn thing legislatively on his agenda, it's all been EOs. That failure isn't due to Dems voting against it, but that Reps won't even back his nonsense. Truly amazing.
And virtually every public comment by an R congressperson says to wait until after funding the government to try to fund the wall. Remember though, there's no one among senior White House staff who has ever passed a piece of legislation. They have no idea what they're doing.
people need to get that question in context, its going to be 100% partisan from jump so there's a big portion of each side then the Democrats just lost so you're going to have more disgruntled people on your side ostensibly I'm honestly surprised the R number is as close to the D number and yes the Dems should still take it seriously because they need to bridge the divide between the neoliberal shills and the burgeoning left wing
I don't disagree with you one bit and everything you said is exactly how I feel on the issue, the US does not have a race problem the US has a class problem, race is just a mechanism used to distract the masses. However I will say that democrats, as well as republicans during the primaries, have attacked most of these issues both financially and functionally but the facts were either dismissed or flipped into a race issue so it could be brushed off. During most of the election everyone that opposed Trump made it clear that Mexico was not going to pay for the wall, nobody cared and Fox News turned the topic into democrats being sod on immigration.
We could put stars on the bellies of half of them and tell them that makes them better than the other half?
I always suspected the end game for ISIS wreaking havoc across the globe was to get that small confederate statue in New Orleans taken down. Big win for them.
Those dastardly bastards are going to turn this country in on it self. ISIS in league with trumptards. We are screwed.
I don't disagree but I wouldn't put a ton of weight behind it. What if half of that poll is republicans? What if the person has a misunderstanding of the policies or they value only 1 policy and disagree with everything else? I just think that question has way too many ways of being misleading.
You'd think he'd propose going to the Moon first, considering he'd be inclined to believe we haven't been there yet.
Barry is live http://www.okayplayer.com/news/barack-obama-first-public-event-since-leaving-white-house.html
Facts don't matter. We just had a march this weekend about people not acknowledging basic facts anymore. All the facts of why it's dumb were talked about during the election. People don't want the wall because they think the facts say it'll work. They want the wall because they're driven by hate. To me, continuing to fight hate-fueled policy with facts is to ignore the field on which you're fighting.
You aren't going to win over a single person driven to support it by hate. You might win over people driven to support it because they have been duped into thinking it's an important tool to fighting illegal immigration. Dems sitting out on the border everyday for the next week trotting out conservative, Trump-voting land owners to talk about why it is an awful idea will move some people who support the wall. Calling them all racists will not.
I've tried to read that Trump interview 3 times and I just can't get through it. Those aren't sentences.
I couldn't believe it during speeches and debates. I was continually like "What?" and yet people ate that shit up. It was the real-world version of:
Oh, one more tidbit about this monument removal - the workers wore masks to protect their identities, had to wear bullet-proof vests while taking it down, and police had snipers stationed on the nearby rooftops because of the threats that people had made when they announced that the monument was coming down:
A republican with nothing to lose is the worst kind of republican, this is one of the reasons term limits for congress is a bad idea.
Agree. A dozen reasons why this wall is a waste of money and will be ineffective. Haters are going to hate, but their are still a decent segment of Republicans who can be persuaded by economic arguments. Attacking the wall on racist grounds is a losing argument. Practical and financial messages have a chance to resonate. There was a thread on another board a few months ago touting the wall, but I used those type of arguments including graphs (since people like to see visual representations) to point out why it would be a waste of money and ineffective. The best is this quote. Republican Texas Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, said in a January 2015 statement to right-leaning publication Daily Caller (founded by Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson and former Dick Cheney advisor Neil Patel) that "In our conversations with outside groups, experts and stakeholders, we learned that it would be an inefficient use of taxpayer money to complete the fence. … We are using that money to utilize other technology to create a secure border." Basically one of their boys said it would be a waste of money. Really makes them think.
BO- "So whats been going on while I've been gone?" Citizen- "We bombed again in Syria and Afghanistan, Trump is putting people from the swamp all around him in the White House, stories of Russian involvement continue, and Obamacare is still law of the land." BO- "SOOOOOOOO Basically nothing has changed. Except for who's in the White House. Good got it. Off to play golf now with the Donald."