Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. Name P. Redacted

    Name P. Redacted I have no money and I'm also gay
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    sounds like hillary but she didn't even have progressive ideas. sounds like a big ole loser.
     
  2. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    Y'all are looking at the "but Beto isn't left enough!!!!" issue wrong.

    The most important box a candidate needs to check is likability. The person needs to be inherently likable and grab people's attention on their own merits. Once you do that, you can push their politics to the left over time.

    Shit, Obama wasn't even for gay marriage in 2008, and look at him now.

    On the flip side, look at Hillary. Her politics were something that 65 percent of this country would have supported, but nobody was willing to listen to her because they didn't like the messenger of those politics.
     
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  3. MORBO!

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    This is fine. I don't disagree with this. Then let's discuss what those issues are and if you're going to trash potential candidates, I think you should at least offer some proposals of your own to add to the discussion.
     
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  4. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    You and CaneKnight should get a room.
     
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  5. ElectricDreamMachine

    ElectricDreamMachine he was on the colgate comedy hour
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    white obama is not a ridiculous or reactionary comparison tho. beto's voting record is way more mainstream dem than "progressive," as he was a member of the new democratic coalition, and his main appeal comes in being a charismatic voice that appeals strongly to young voters.
     
  6. AptosDuck

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    And wh

    And who's to say that his politics aren't already to the left of what he campaigned on while trying to get elected in a predominantly red state
     
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  7. Hoss Bonaventure

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  8. BWC

    BWC It was the BOAT times, it was the WOAT times
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    Unnecessary and alarmist extrapolations being attached to some otherwise meritorious discussion points. Simple as that.
     
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  9. ElectricDreamMachine

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    not sure what "proposal" you're looking for at this stage. i'll just quote the same article i linked to before since it sums it up better than i could:

    But the primaries aren’t even here yet, so there’s no need to begin resigning ourselves to policies that are merely better than Republican alternatives. We still have time to pick a politician with a bold, clear, distinctly progressive agenda, and an articulated vision beyond something-better-than-this, the literal translation of hope-change campaigning.
     
  10. tmbrules

    tmbrules Make America Great Again!
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    Dude, there aren't any women around here other than Tobias . You are on your own wanting a dude blow job party.
     
  11. westcoastbias

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    For fucks sake... If you are going to bitch and moan about a potential candidate, fucking post a candidate that would support your policy preferences that you think can win a general election. Pick one, fucking pussies.

    Odds next to them are Vegas odds to win the democratic nominee. Neil degrasse Tyson gets my vote.
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  12. jrmy

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    For best sexual assault story of the month?
     
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  13. AptosDuck

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    How is AOC even on this board? She's not even eligible.
     
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  14. BWC

    BWC It was the BOAT times, it was the WOAT times
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    I prefer my leaders get to the implementation stage, not just ideation and invention. That’s not to say a progressive cannot do that, but our country, for better and for worse, is set up to move and change at a glacial pace. It’s possible to upset that apple cart, but rather improbable.

    Either way, the discussion is not best served with hysterics. If we can’t agree even to that baseline, it’s gonna be a long road to 2020 and beyond.
     
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  15. afb

    afb Spoiler Alert: Pawnee, IN may not be on a map.
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    need a border on the atlantic ocean so those french people cant walk over here
     
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  16. Sub-Zero

    Sub-Zero ALL THE TOSTITOS!!!
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    The one thing I will say about not committing is that it makes the down-ballot message a little more difficult. If you rallied around a solution then you can win more legislative seats.
     
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  17. BWC

    BWC It was the BOAT times, it was the WOAT times
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    Keep reading beyond the White Obama part for the actual meat of the issue.
     
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  18. ElectricDreamMachine

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    ah yes this is a healthy viewpoint
     
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  19. BWC

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    It’s almost as if pragmatism does actually exist and have influence in this world.
     
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  20. afb

    afb Spoiler Alert: Pawnee, IN may not be on a map.
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    AOC isn't old enough to run.....
     
  21. Corch

    Corch My son got the Denver Nuggets jeans
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    That's not true and a mouth is a mouth.
     
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  22. tmbrules

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    to each their own i guess. Have fun!
     
  23. AptosDuck

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    I'm unabashedly hetero and all that, but I've long figured that the best cocksuckers are probably guys and the best cuntlickers are probably chicks, because they own the plumbing they're servicing
     
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  24. BrentTray

    BrentTray I’m thinking Dorsia.
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    Uhh maybe don’t commit a shit ton of crimes.
     
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  25. BWC

    BWC It was the BOAT times, it was the WOAT times
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    The latter is a fact of nature, so the former only makes sense.
     
  26. Artoo

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    Beto is centerist trash. The only reason he's popular is because he was facing lizard person Ted Cruz

    But the good thing is, we still have a primary to go before the general. This is exactly the time to bitch and complain about candidates/potential ones.
     
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  27. tmbrules

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    I hope you guys get a legit primary this time instead of an anointment. The country as a whole will be better for it.
     
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  28. bro

    bro Your Mother’s Favorite Shitposter
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    more scalding hot takes please!!!
     
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  29. westcoastbias

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    Complain... Offer no valuable contribution ... Pick apart everyone else's... Repeat.

    90% of the last several pages. Worst guy at a party lives ITT.
     
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  30. ElectricDreamMachine

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    what evidence do you have at this stage that he's not a centrist?
     
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  31. AptosDuck

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    Christ, it's like the fucking People's Front of Judea in here

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  32. BrentTray

    BrentTray I’m thinking Dorsia.
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  33. visa

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  34. timo

    timo g'day, mate
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    siap - Sheriff Pledge Pins hanging out with that Russian spy / tramp :warn:

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  35. BrentTray

    BrentTray I’m thinking Dorsia.
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  36. DuckKin

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    Trump quits after his first term, Pence pardons Trump, Trump continues to live the life of a rich man. This is America.
     
  37. cutig

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    Can't pardon state charges
     
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  38. brolift

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    Nah he'll get charged and convicted in NY State. Chuds will take up arms.
     
  39. AptosDuck

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  40. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    People like CaneKnight and Name P. Redacted would rather spit in the face of a very good candidate in favor of a perfect candidate that exists only in their minds. Even if a perfect candidate existed, they'd find a way to complain about them, too, because they just live to complain.
     
  41. bro

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    this is an awful Op-Ed.
     
  42. timo

    timo g'day, mate
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    DONE.
    DIRT.
    CHEAP.
     
  43. brolift

    brolift 2sweet
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    Complaining is part of the democratic process.
    Stop bitching at people to shut up, keep their heads down and take whatever medicine they're given.

    FFS,
     
  44. NCHusker

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    Ftr I would be perfectly fine with Beto keeping the chair warm for AOC
     
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  45. PeterGriffin

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    Let me be claro: there isn't a perfect candidate.

    Yes, pushing candidates to the left is good for our country and aligns with the shift in the electorate. Policy and party platforms can be shifted. Personality and experience can't be. Don't write off those that have those latter qualities at this stage. Policy positions are tailored to the race that you run, which can backfire of course (see: Donnelly). If one were to run a race in, say, Texas and then run a national race, the two platforms will not be identical.
     
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