I have my moments. If any of y'all played fortnite you know how bad the grey tac shotty was compared to the pump. It is actually better now.
I haven’t downloaded Mixer. I’ve watched shroud since he was mEclipse back in the day and will hate to see him go, but I just don’t have that kind of loyalty especially if mixer isn’t vastly superior.
From a consumer perspective, eh, whatever. I can click on a mixer bookmark as easily as I can twitch.
In terms of video quality Mixer is much much better than twitch. Twitch has a cap on bitrate for streams. I remember when that Ninja guy switched I went to go check it out just to see what it was like and it was insane how much better it looked. Think Mixer has a cap of 10,000 bitrate while Twitch is like 6,000
Can't imagine the type of money and security they have to be giving Shroud to switch. It's a hell of a risk because he's one of like 4 streamers that have proven to get big time viewers regardless of what game they play. Being in less of a spotlight is one of the only threats to the future of his stream. They have to be giving him a crazy salary and guaranteeing it for a long time or something.
That isn't true. His averages for the past month are 12,286 average viewers. The past 7 days are 11,253 average viewers
these guys want security of income so they can take time off and as a handcuff on the whole thing collapsing financially/their career declining for whatever reason locking in basically generational wealth like these two now most likely got with their deals is hard to turn down imo
I've always been curious what streamer's income is like. I just don't see how somebody who averages 300 viewers now can do it full time. I really only pay attention to Destiny streamers, but their numbers aren't nearly as high as they used to be.
I wish i could remember dudes name that is doin fortnite now...he gets like 1k viewers but has 5 thousand subscribers. You can eat off your subs
People with low stream numbers can still have dedicated viewers and cows. I popped into a random call of duty channel not too long ago. Had about 250 viewers but had like 8,000 something subs. Scrolled down some more and saw where like one person had gifted over 2000 subs
On a related note, if you're a very attractive girl streamer, you probably can as well. I've seen some channels where some girls have <200 viewers and have multiple 10K+ dono's.
once you hit "partner" you get a salary but that's dependent on viewership, then add in donos, subs, & ads and it can be alright
Just saw a tweet that a former Apple designer, and other former employees, want to get into the streaming service, it's called Caffeine.
I stand corrected...but going from 40-60k to 12k is significant They honestly should have signed multiple streamers all around the same time. Mixer doesn't have the environment Twitch has where people can bounce around between multiple other popular streamers. On Mixer it's usually Ninja and the next most popular streamer is some teenager playing fortnite on console. And it may have been financially more beneficial for Mixer to sign multiple less popular streamers instead of one or two huge ones.
saw a post of people guessing based on shared management with ninja/shroud summit/timthetatman were two that jumped out
Summit can def pull in the viewers along with tatman...summit has been playin alot of that pirate game and still pulls views. He sucks on rp gta unless he's racing
Right, but clearly those type of promotions are not bringing new viewers to the platform if we look at Ninja's numbers. Mixer benefits more by bringing streamers with more dedicated communities to their platform. Streamers that average 2-5k, you sort of have to go out of your way to find them. Ninja and Shroud are featured on the front page when they're online. It will be very interesting to see Shroud's popularity arc on Mixer because I do see him as one of the few big streamers with a very dedicated community.
i can't see any way they take xqc and to an extent asmond, asmonds viewership will evaporate as WoW goes away again, at least with ninja/shroud its prioritizing fps dominant people who are popular on multiple games
Timthetatman is the obvious choice for next. He has a pretty loyal fanbase that would definitely migrate to Mixer to watch him. Probably even more so than Ninja
he also is seemingly best friends with Ninja like go on vacations together, share houses at events, etc he's the easy favorite imo
he said on stream today he's not going anywhere and to keep subbing to but also he is being super coy when someone tips and asks directly if he's leaving
turned on the vod to see the start of his stream hes terrible at acting that it's not lined up for him if not already done
Tfue, Doc, summit, lirik, tim would be the next obvious choices. WoW isn't going anywhere. the one month re-sub part has come and gone, people are still heavily bought in and with the way Blizz is doing phases, they won't get to Naxx (Classic's endgame) for like 18 months I think. Asmon will stick around but I don't see Mixer going after him.
Just due to the VOLUME of streamers out there, only <0.1% actually make above US median household income as streamers. Majority of streamers do not make enough money to solely support themselves streaming. There are literally thousands and thousands of channels on twitch with <100 viewers at all times. I don't think 300 average viewers could make enough to do it full time without other sources of income. There was a DotA streamer who averages around 250 average and I was watching him once and said he could maybe make streaming work full time but he was still in college. This is the guy's stats: https://twitchtracker.com/lukiluki That says he's top 0.19% and would currently struggle to stream full time at current stats. FYI.
Also: https://twitchtracker.com/subscribers Stealing #3 and 7 would be pretty bold after Ninja went as well.