UCF - a thread on this subject

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  1. WhiskeyDelta

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    Every Year:

    SEC Champ
    SEC Champ loser
    SEC W Runner Up
    SEC E Runner Up
    SEC Wildcard
    BIG10 Champ
    BIG10 Runner Up
    ACC Champ (see: Clemson)
    BIG12 Champ
    BIG12 Runner Up
    PAC12 Champ
    G5 Ranked Higher than 6 of the other teams
     
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  2. Mix

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    Yeah SEC almost certainly gets 3-5 a year in. B1G get 2-3, ACC and B12 maybe 2. Then American and Pac team.
     
  3. Mr Bulldops

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    This is probably exactly what it will be most years but when I look at this, why even play a championship game if you in the SEC?
     
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  4. beerleagueman

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    ok with it . no one can really complain as long as their conference champ gets their shot
     
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  5. MORBO!

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    Remember that it’s the 6 highest ranked conference champs, so a G5 school would get an autobid.
     
  6. WhiskeyDelta

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    Does it go to votes if none of the G5 schools are ranked?
     
  7. KF99

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    Not sure what the rankings were but radio said this year two G5 schools would have been in. Cindy and Coastal Carolina. I think I ‘twas PAC 12 champ that was below both.
     
  8. MORBO!

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    Yea Oregon would have been behind coastal
     
  9. beerleagueman

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  10. MORBO!

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    I feel slightly less bad about having used Amazon all these years.
     
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  11. CaneKnight

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    Nice
     
  12. Mix

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    Only good billionaire.
     
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  13. WhiskeyDelta

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    Let’s not go that far. She’s given away like 8 billion and her net worth has still doubled
     
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  14. MORBO!

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    I just hope she continues to give it away even as it continues to grow. I’ll let her keep a cool 20 billion if she keeps giving most of the profits away.
     
  15. Sub-Zero

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    2nd best thing a MacKenzie has ever done for UCF

    Also can’t wait for tuition and season tickets and parking fees to go down now.

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  16. MORBO!

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    The funny thing is that it’s a ton of money, but it’s not like school changing in any way. It was like 25% of our endowment, so that’s nice, but even if they put most of it into the endowment that’s like an extra 1-2 million per year in money. Or they could build a couple buildings
     
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  17. One Knight

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    As long as the money is in the exact correct account and we tell people ten years ahead of time exactly what it will be used for and ... fuck the state government.
     
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  18. One Knight

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    From the CFB recruiting mailbag on The Athletic today...

    Which team(s) stand to benefit most from a 12-team playoff, in terms of how the increased exposure can help recruiting? Example: Does a playoff appearance legitimize an Iowa State or a Northwestern in a way that the existing system does not? — John T.

    If you’ve been living under a rock, you missed the news late last week that college football is seemingly headed toward expanding to a 12-team College Football Playoff. Which programs is this going to benefit the most? There are two parts to that question, and one kind of leads to the other.

    First, let’s start with which teams will benefit the most on the field.

    1. Georgia: Georgia has made the Playoff in the past, but now the Bulldogs — who have built an elite-level roster — aren’t at the mercy of Alabama. Instead of making it once every seven years, Georgia is going to make it every year.

    2. Ohio State: The Buckeyes are the only team in the nation that would have made a 12-team field in each of the first seven years of the College Football Playoff. Ohio State can lose a game or two and will remain likely to make the cut. Remember, the expansion of the Playoff not only opens the door to new teams but also leaves the door open for the powerhouses who slip up in the regular season. The 2015 loss to Michigan State and those upset losses to Purdue and Iowa a few years ago? Those ended Ohio State’s national title runs and will forever sting for Buckeyes fans, but in this new format, those losses won’t prevent Ohio State from making the field.

    3. Penn State: Penn State has always had really solid teams, but Ohio State routinely stands in the Nittany Lions’ way. Like Georgia with Alabama, Penn State now can make the Playoff without having to beat Ohio State. And unlike Michigan, Penn State’s seasons aren’t graded as a success or failure based on how it does against the Buckeyes.

    4. USC: You could also make the case for Oregon in this spot given how the Ducks have been recruiting under Mario Cristobal, but the most talented teams in the Pac-12 will now have a spot in the field without having to be perfect. The Pac-12 has been a full step behind the rest of the Power 5 conferences and, as a result, that conference’s champion hasn’t been as respected as other Power 5 champs or the second-best team in the SEC. USC hasn’t played to its potential, but the Trojans, when hitting on all cylinders, have the talent to compete at the highest level. The Pac-12’s days of being left out are over, and USC — which typically has the most talented roster in the conference (though Oregon is making its move) — now has a spot on the dance floor.

    5. UCF: Though this is a cycle, UCF has been widely regarded as the most capable Group of 5 program of the past five years. You can add Cincinnati to that mix, too. Now there is a seat at the table for these really talented and fun-to-watch teams that have otherwise been an afterthought in the discourse for the national title race. When the Playoff expansion news hit, the first person I thought of was Tennessee coach Josh Heupel. Given the circumstances at Tennessee right now, you can make the strong case that UCF is a better job than what he is dealing with in the SEC. But, hey, Heupel loves payday now.

    As you can see, expansion actually benefits programs in the top 15 more than those in the middle tier. Schools like Georgia, Penn State, Florida State, Michigan and the cycle of second-tier Big 12 teams all have so much to gain because they no longer have to conquer the powerhouse program in their conference to make the Playoff.

    But from a recruiting standpoint, the biggest winners are the Group of 5 teams that can now sell Playoff inclusion.

    We often don’t view the G5 as worthy of a Playoff spot because they don’t play Power 5 schedules and don’t usually recruit at the same level, but the best G5 team every single year is very, very good. Better than most of us give it credit for. Now some of these G5 programs — Cincinnati, UCF, SMU, Boise State, to name a few — actually have something to sell: playoff inclusion. And those teams, which have much better resources and support than most of their peers at the same level, actually have a better chance of making the Playoff on an annual basis than middle-tier Power 5 teams.

    I wrote a story about SMU last year and how the Mustangs landed four-star quarterback Preston Stone. The biggest question for Stone: Why rule yourself out of playing in the Playoff when there are plenty of top-tier Power 5 teams involved? Well, that question doesn’t exist anymore, and for a program like SMU, located in Dallas and around a ton of top-level prospects, it isn’t unreasonable to think it could jump into the top 30 of the recruiting rankings based on this inclusion alone.

    On the field, the usual suspects will benefit the most. But will Penn State be able to recruit that much better than it already is because it may make the Playoff more often? Probably not. Ohio State is still going to get the lion’s share. But what about Cincinnati, which is battling for Big Ten players every day, and UCF and SMU, which have hundreds of really good players at their fingertips? Those are the real winners in terms of how this expansion will help schools improve their recruiting.
     
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  19. Karl Hungus

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    thinking about getting a cheap tablet like amazon fire for prime day in order to watch sports while using my main computer for other things and tv for other things. i don't have all the subscription services for each sport so i often find a streaming link on reddit. will that work in a fire tablet browser or some other tablet's browsers or will it not have the right codecs and such?

    figure someone in here has watched sports outside of a fox sports app or something on their tablets and would know.
     
  20. Sub-Zero

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    not sure how fire tablets work but if it works in any way like a Fire TV, there are dedicated apps for amazon device streaming. Maybe the tablet supports those too?
     
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  21. Mix

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    Browser should load whatever. Pop ups could be an issue but I'm sure it would be fine.
     
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    I’ve watched streams on my phone before so I think the tablet should be good
     
  23. Gaknight

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    John Mcafee is dead. Tailgaters guy finally gets his justice.
     
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  24. Mix

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    Burger U should make a John McAfee is dead burger.
     
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  25. Karl Hungus

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    What was that story again?
     
  26. kennypowers

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    I was taking summer classes in 09 and got insanely drunk at Tailgaters one night during a Magic playoff game. One of the line cooks comes out, confronts Greg the owner, quits loudly, and throws a full soda on him mid restaurant. Greg, drunk of course, immediately turns his pint glass into a weapon and charges the guy trying to bash his head in. A few of us intervened before he got himself murdered.
     
  27. Mr Bulldops

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    Didn’t he also go around and smash all the fire alarms because he was drunk and they were going off while he was trying to watch gator basketball or something?
     
  28. kennypowers

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    Indeed he did
     
  29. Sub-Zero

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    If you would have tortured me I still would not have been able to remember the name of that place (Tailgaters).

    For whatever reason that reminded me...you guys remember The Moat? I remember it being a thing on rivals that usual suspects went way out of their way to say that place was good when it just wasn't, unfortunately.
     
  30. Mr Bulldops

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    I liked some of their wing suaces but everything was too expensive for what it was. I mean if you can’t make a UCF bar in that location work out, something is up
     
  31. WhiskeyDelta

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    I think I went there twice and I'm not sure my food ever arrived either time
     
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  32. Mix

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    Tailgaters was a bad restaurant. Nothing was tasty, everything was expensive.
     
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  33. citrodong

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    McAfee anti-virus is the tailgaters of computer protection.
     
  34. strike

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    It’s insane how much better recruiting has been with the new staff.
     
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  35. strike

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    Another thing coming apparently.
     
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  36. beerleagueman

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    first mostly southern staff and it shows . Heupel was such a horrible fit
     
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  37. kennypowers

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    Mostly a horrible fit because he’s not a good head coach.
     
  38. Sub-Zero

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    Heupel i would say was at least an ok "gap couple of years coach" since at least he kept the UCF speed persona going after Frost left. But this is looking like the perfect timing for the Gus Bus especially with the playoff changes coming.
     
  39. kennypowers

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    Honestly, he is kind of a good hire for Tennessee at the moment as well. He won’t do great, but he *probably* won’t be an embarrassment. The offense should keep games interesting. Get them through the tough part of whatever penalties are coming and then get fired.
     
  40. Mix

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    I will watch him play Alabama because I apparently have a thing for snuff films. That system falling behind a much better team is going to be so ugly. Like 70-7 type game.
     
  41. beerleagueman

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    he would probably do ok in the WAC or Mountain West , 8 win ceiling with blowout losses
     
  42. kennypowers

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    Absolutely. The whole offense falls apart if you don’t get yardage on first down, it’s like clockwork.

    But, he should be able to mix it up with Kentucky, Scar, Vandy, etc.
    That’s where he’ll end up ultimately and thrive.
     
  43. TableKnight

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    I've seen this so many times...

    It's more than just collecting signatures. The main challenge was the $50k bond and $300k
    indemnity insurance required. We have contacted the Alumni association about it and if we want it, they are the ones that would need to handle it. On top of the bond and insurance we would need 1000 applications with the fees paid before it is approved.
     
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  44. Mr Bulldops

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  45. One Knight

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    My friends run Dreamfield and I've written a lot of the content you'll see on their site and app.
    They tell me they talked to DG heavily, but with Milton as one of Dreamfield's ambassadors, he apparently wanted to go his own direction, the little brother syndrome is how it was described to me.
    Not a knock on DG at all, in his shoes I'd want to do the same thing. Will be interesting to see if he does anything with Wimbush's company or just stays on his own.
    He's big enough right now to be his own brand, and so are a lot of the res of the guys, but it never hurts to have a platform, he just didn't want to be on the same one as KZ.
     
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  46. Mix

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    Wait it says hes using the same guy. Is that guy just freelancing everywhere?
     
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  47. One Knight

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    My guess is he will be exclusive with Dreamfield as a company, but also consulting with kids that are wanting to do the individual thing as well.
    And if Dreamfield can eventually recruit DG over through that connection, so much the better (my speculation only, I haven't talked to my friends about that aspect of it, they just told me about their discussions with DG).
     
  48. Mix

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    I went through the DG website and mannnnn maybe I'm too old but who on earth is buying this shit? I get the doing paid appearance and social media posts but the merch is stupid and only going to sell I guess as a way for boosters to pay them.
     
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  49. One Knight

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    yeah there's going to be so much of that going around.
    D'Eriq King already has his own shop too, a ton of them will. He's the other brand ambassador for Dreamfield but he'd doing all the other stuff too, I saw he's already got contracts with College Hunks and some local cart dealerships as well.

    One thing I've learned, people will buy anything to be adjacent to stars, my guess is we will be surprised how well most of the big name kids do