UCF Hires Gus Malzahn

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Jack Parkman, Jan 27, 2021.

  1. Mix

    Mix I deserve to be blown before the Jacuzzi
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    UCF KnightsPittsburgh PenguinsOrlando CityPittsburgh Steelers

    This is bad right?
     
  2. Mix

    Mix I deserve to be blown before the Jacuzzi
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    UCF KnightsPittsburgh PenguinsOrlando CityPittsburgh Steelers

    Hahaha oh man the closest waffle house is particularly disgusting, even by waffle house standards.
     
  3. Chipper>Jeter

    Chipper>Jeter Defund the NCAA
    Donor TMB OG
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesAtlanta FalconsBorussia DortmundArsenalAtlanta UnitedAvengersMiami Heat

    Yes it is. His offense is broken and he is too stubborn to adapt.
     
  4. One Knight

    One Knight https://www.twitch.tv/thatrescueguy
    Donor
    UCF KnightsTampa Bay Lightning

    Was it broken because he didn't have the right personnel or because it's just a bad offense?
    Neither is good, since the first means he can't recruit, just curious, I haven't been paying attention to Auburn since our bowl game.
     
  5. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
    Staff Donor
    Atlanta BravesDenver BroncosChicago BlackhawksMississippi Rebels

    It's a bad offense. He's recruited well enough to be able to have a better offense than he's had.
     
    BudKilmer and One Knight like this.
  6. Gaknight

    Gaknight Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    UCF KnightsAtlanta HawksAtlanta FalconsAtlanta United



    Beware our twitter MOB!
     
  7. Jack Parkman

    Jack Parkman Endorsed by Fred McGriff
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    Florida GatorsMiami MarlinsMiami DolphinsFlorida PanthersMiami Heat

    he definitely sucks at recruiting imo but if you surround him with good recruiters plus bags like auburn had they can keep the recruiting efforts afloat
     
    One Knight likes this.
  8. Jack Parkman

    Jack Parkman Endorsed by Fred McGriff
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    Florida GatorsMiami MarlinsMiami DolphinsFlorida PanthersMiami Heat

  9. Jack Parkman

    Jack Parkman Endorsed by Fred McGriff
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    Florida GatorsMiami MarlinsMiami DolphinsFlorida PanthersMiami Heat

    Oh boy

     
    likes this.
  10. BudKilmer

    BudKilmer Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    Atlanta HawksAtlanta FalconsDemocratAvengersAntifa

    Gus has had some time off and is on tilt. I love this
     
  11. Gaknight

    Gaknight Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    UCF KnightsAtlanta HawksAtlanta FalconsAtlanta United

  12. Mr Bulldops

    Mr Bulldops If you’re juiceless, you’re useless
    Donor
    UCF KnightsAtlanta BravesMiami DolphinsWWE

    “We’re going to get a QB coach that has a history of developing QBs” so no one you you’ve ever hired before because the only QB you developed was by developing the $80k for Scam Newton’s dad
     
  13. Chipper>Jeter

    Chipper>Jeter Defund the NCAA
    Donor TMB OG
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesAtlanta FalconsBorussia DortmundArsenalAtlanta UnitedAvengersMiami Heat

    The advantage to his offense was creating mismatches by going no huddle and not allowing the D to sub. Can’t really do that the way he was doing it before. When you take that away his playbook is complete garbage.

    Also we under recruited Oline for at least 5 years. His clock management was horrendous in key situations. He refuses to use a TE at all so don’t bother recruiting any. Also if you like slant routes he is the wrong guy for you as well.

    He will hire guys that can recruit. He won’t develop QB’s at all. Lastly he will pick a favorite RB and run him into the ground until injuries and CTE force him to go to someone else.
     
    FadeMe, Corky Bucek and One Knight like this.
  14. Mr Bulldops

    Mr Bulldops If you’re juiceless, you’re useless
    Donor
    UCF KnightsAtlanta BravesMiami DolphinsWWE

    Bianchi: “how many people you talk to about the job”

    Terry: “I talked to uh several”

    so he talked to Gus several times?
     
  15. Where Eagles Dare

    Where Eagles Dare The Specialist Show On Earth
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesWashington Football TeamAtlanta United

    Probably how you look at it. At least you'll never have the argument of him dictating plays to the OC
     
    One Two likes this.
  16. Jack Parkman

    Jack Parkman Endorsed by Fred McGriff
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    Florida GatorsMiami MarlinsMiami DolphinsFlorida PanthersMiami Heat

  17. Where Eagles Dare

    Where Eagles Dare The Specialist Show On Earth
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesWashington Football TeamAtlanta United

    Yes
     
    One Knight likes this.
  18. Where Eagles Dare

    Where Eagles Dare The Specialist Show On Earth
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesWashington Football TeamAtlanta United

    Gus is gonna schedule Bama and beat Saban bc that's all he can do.

    Or he'll schedule #Arkansas Razorbacks and beat them all 3 times. Once at home. Twice in Little Rock
     
    i am a bammer, , TC and 4 others like this.
  19. fucktx

    fucktx ruthkanda forever
    Donor
    Texas RangersLos Angeles ClippersDallas Stars

    my only prediction is gus will leave ucf in a worse position when he leaves than when he started
     
    and FadeMe like this.
  20. Gaknight

    Gaknight Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    UCF KnightsAtlanta HawksAtlanta FalconsAtlanta United

    I think he killed that presser. Way better than Huepel's who was a complete dick.
     
  21. MORBO!

    MORBO! Hello, Tiny Man. I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!!
    Donor
    New York GiantsNew York YankeesAtlanta UnitedUCF Knights

    I mean Heupel sucks hard so yea obvi
     
    likes this.
  22. Truman

    Truman Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Missouri TigersSt. Louis CardinalsChicago BullsSt. Louis BluesEverton

  23. SuperCam

    SuperCam Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta Braves

    This is great news for former UCF players looking to break into the coaching world
     
    , Juan and gilstein21 like this.
  24. Xander Crews

    Xander Crews Founding Member: Dangerous Nights Crew
    Donor
    UCF KnightsMiami DolphinsAvengersMiami HeatBig 12 Conference

    8E967CCF-392F-4AEE-8597-357538726DFF.gif
     
    Mr Bulldops and BudKilmer like this.
  25. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    CFB analysis wizard Adam Rittenberg seems to think it is a home run hire
     
  26. FadeMe

    FadeMe Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesAtlanta United

    Was broken for a few reasons. He failed to recruit quality OL, particularly any OTs. And Gus approved any offer given out to any recruit. So he has his hands deeply involved in the offensive recruiting. Was broken because he struggled to develop QBs within the system. Every QB that spent multiple years starting for him never improved significantly and many regressed. It's also broken because Gus is extremely rigid on what he does. He's almost computer-like. He takes tangible info like down and distance, hash placement, time of the game, play sequence, and calls a play based on what the formula spits out. And that's the play. There is almost no freedom from the QB or OL to make adjustments to changes from the defense. All changes come from the sidelines. And EVERYTHING about his offense is predicated on being able to run the football. If he can run the ball on his opponent, it opens up his entire offense. But if teams can slow down the run and force his offense to pass to keep the chains moving with short and intermediate passes, the offense is dead in the water.

    I fully expect Gus's offense to look like gangbusters the first season or two and to make parts of this post seem ridiculous. But in time (assuming he's there for an extended stay), defenses will adjust to his schemes, his OL recruiting and QB development will stagnate, and things will become stale and unimaginative and forced. Then, it becomes a really frustrating brand of football to watch. He's going to recruit skill positions well. He's going to have some exciting plays and games. And with the local talent plus the talent already on the roster, I think he'll do really well next year. Just be prepared for inexplicable frustration at times with him.
     
  27. FadeMe

    FadeMe Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesAtlanta United

    I can't imagine a better hire they could've made. I think it's a great hire for them. And I truly hope Gus can change and adapt his offense to be revolutionary again. I really like Gus as a person, and the players will love him as well. He's great in that regard. He just failed to adapt to the world around him at Auburn, and he got stale and couldn't overcome that.
     
    AubCabs likes this.
  28. bigpig

    bigpig cultofwhatever.com
    Donor
    Arkansas RazorbacksNew York JetsAEW

    Gus was a better hire for Tennessee.
    UCF made a better hire than Tennessee.

    Has Been > Never Was
     
    Doc Louis, lazy bum and gilstein21 like this.
  29. southlick

    southlick "Better Than You"
    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson TideAtlanta BravesDenver NuggetsDallas CowboysBirmingham Legion

  30. Doc Louis

    Doc Louis Well-Known Member
    Donor

    If it turned that lump of coal Scott Frost into a diamond then it can't be all bad
     
    BudKilmer likes this.
  31. Detlef Schrempf

    Detlef Schrempf Well-Known Member
    Donor

    it was closer to $140k I have heard
     
  32. MORBO!

    MORBO! Hello, Tiny Man. I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!!
    Donor
    New York GiantsNew York YankeesAtlanta UnitedUCF Knights

    It’s an ongoing investigation.
     
    Boo MFer! likes this.
  33. Detlef Schrempf

    Detlef Schrempf Well-Known Member
    Donor

    I know a guy who worked on a staff with a guy who was at the time at a school that was considered among the finalists for Cam, his comment on the matter was, “we had $120k on the table and we lost...”
     
  34. Mr Bulldops

    Mr Bulldops If you’re juiceless, you’re useless
    Donor
    UCF KnightsAtlanta BravesMiami DolphinsWWE

    884FFC83-184A-4C35-BE79-75D9C2E67DB9.jpeg

    I’m sure this is just coincidence that we would use the tower as the backdrop for this picture and not the scoreboard like we normally do
     
  35. The Banks

    The Banks TMB's Alaskan
    Donor TMB OG
    Oregon DucksGreen Bay PackersDetroit Red WingsBayern Munich

    What’s Jose Jose up to?
     
  36. Mr Bulldops

    Mr Bulldops If you’re juiceless, you’re useless
    Donor
    UCF KnightsAtlanta BravesMiami DolphinsWWE

    I say you he dead
     
    roggins likes this.
  37. Mix

    Mix I deserve to be blown before the Jacuzzi
    Staff Donor TMB OG
    UCF KnightsPittsburgh PenguinsOrlando CityPittsburgh Steelers

    Is he getting an offset from auburn or just 21 mill no matter what?
     
  38. The Banks

    The Banks TMB's Alaskan
    Donor TMB OG
    Oregon DucksGreen Bay PackersDetroit Red WingsBayern Munich

    Oh. Oops. RIP
     
  39. Mr Bulldops

    Mr Bulldops If you’re juiceless, you’re useless
    Donor
    UCF KnightsAtlanta BravesMiami DolphinsWWE

    I thought the auburn donors just wrote him a check and was done with it
     
  40. Sub-Zero

    Sub-Zero ALL THE TOSTITOS!!!
    Donor
    UCF KnightsMiami MarlinsOrlando MagicMiami DolphinsFlorida PanthersWWEOrlando CityTennisBig 12 Conference

    Gus, do you know that UCF has the power to influence any online poll? How will this influence your coaching decisions and do you anticipate enlisting K-pop stans to take back this influence?
     
    BudKilmer and Mr Bulldops like this.
  41. Mr Bulldops

    Mr Bulldops If you’re juiceless, you’re useless
    Donor
    UCF KnightsAtlanta BravesMiami DolphinsWWE

    No shit, I mean we have a fucking forest out there somewhere
     
    rulethirty, MORBO! and Sub-Zero like this.
  42. Gaknight

    Gaknight Well-Known Member
    Donor TMB OG
    UCF KnightsAtlanta HawksAtlanta FalconsAtlanta United

    Mr Bulldops likes this.
  43. TableKnight

    TableKnight Go Knights
    Donor TMB OG
    UCF KnightsMiami DolphinsAtlanta UnitedAvengersBig 12 Conference

    I can claim almost half of those votes myself
     
    Mr Bulldops and MORBO! like this.
  44. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree I am a landmine
    Donor TMB OG

    half the buyout was due within 30 days if reporting was accurate. The rest to be paid in installments over the next four years. I didn't see anything about any offset
     
    Mr Bulldops likes this.
  45. bigpig

    bigpig cultofwhatever.com
    Donor
    Arkansas RazorbacksNew York JetsAEW

    Lots of cosmetic specialists in Orlando can help him with those bitch tits
     
    Mr Bulldops and BudKilmer like this.
  46. MORBO!

    MORBO! Hello, Tiny Man. I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!!
    Donor
    New York GiantsNew York YankeesAtlanta UnitedUCF Knights

    No offset regardless of what he does. He gets full amount.
     
  47. Fran Tarkenton

    Fran Tarkenton Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Wake Forest Demon Deacons

    Its the Veer out of Shotgun Formation with really bad passing concepts. Emphasis on really bad.

    And a guy who does not recruit well, particularly OL.

    But a good Dual Threat QB can make it work.
     
    Jake Scott and AubCabs like this.
  48. ASU Knight

    ASU Knight Well-Known Member

    Keene looking like a great backup QB option next year.
     
  49. Boo MFer!

    Boo MFer! Better than Burrow last year good.
    Donor
    Florida GatorsTampa Bay RaysJacksonville JaguarsTampa Bay Buccaneers

    Christ this is embarrassing.
     
  50. Dennis Reynolds

    Dennis Reynolds Well-Known Member
    Donor
    Auburn TigersMontreal Impact

    This is as good of a hire as UCF could have made based on the timing. Unlike the SEC, I feel like being at UCF should give Gus an advantage of talent within the conference assuming he can still hire good recruiters. Just like the rest of the thread has said, do not expect a single player to improve under him. They are as good on day 1 of freshman year as they are as seniors. For the extremely talented guys (Cam, Kerryon) this is not an issue. Gus hired a great DC in Kevin Steele that did develop a lot on that side of the ball. If he fails to hire coaches that develop, he will find a way to lose 4-5 games every year. 3 of those losses will be when he is favored. Gus is a wonderful OC when his QB can run and when his running game works. When he can't establish the run, not a damn bit of his playbook works. You will be able to tell how the game will go within the first two drives. If the scripted plays work, he might hang 60 on the other team. If they don't work, he either can't or refuses to adjust and it is painful to watch. Good dude. Nice enough guy. Won't be banging prostis. Won't embarrass you off the field, but will eventually embarrass you on the field.
     
    FadeMe, gilstein21 and BudKilmer like this.