UPDATE** - El Chapo Trial and the surrounding fuckery begins.

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  1. Merica

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    Couldn't find a thread on it, so this might have been covered :idk:




    So someone in the prison had to cooperate with this right? There's no fucking way a construction site could take place underneath a fucking prison without someone noticing.
     
  2. Barves2125

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    Bruhhhhhhhhhhh
     
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  3. Jake Barnes

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    Find the rock hammer and Raquel.
     
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  5. JGator1

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    Shoulda sent him to ADX Florence, thanks Mexico.

    Old threads on him were pointlessly bumped, big fan of any new threads.
     
  6. BP

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    plata o plumo
     
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  7. Merica

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    When are we going to address the cartel issue? When it spills over into America? They basically run a country with the 15th largest economy on Earth.
     
  8. JBF76

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    Cmon Merica , He's a drug lord. Its Mexico. He probably had multiple construction teams digging his 1 mile tunnel to freedom. Free drugs for everyone. Prison workers and all.
     
  9. mjkstl

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    The Rita Hayworth poster should have been a clue .
     
  10. Mister Me Too

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    I was so confused when they talked about "the blood thirsty billionaire", not sure if they were talking about Trump or El Chapo.
     
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  11. Jork

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    60% of the profits for the cartels come from marijuana being sold in the US.
     
  12. Jake Barnes

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    Can't legalize it though because the devil and stuff.
     
  13. Kirk Fogg

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    Chicago news has been all over this because apparently 50% of the drugs sold from Chicago come from this guy
     
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  14. Jork

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    Yeah. I really wonder how many states are going to end up putting full marijuana legalization on the ballot in 2016. The democrats would be wise to help this along as it will help with turnout for younger voters. Illinois hasn't even served their first medical patients yet as far as I know, so it probably won't go on the ballot here this time around.
     
  15. Merica

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    smdh.

    I've heard the Mexican government is scared that if we legalize weed, then cartels will move on to more nefarious ways to make up for the income loss like kidnapping people for ransom.

    Sounds like bullshit to me though. If you want to fuck up an organization, you cut off their revenue source.
     
  16. Jork

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    FWIW, Nevada will for sure have it as a ballot initiative next year. Other likely candidates are California, Arizona, Maine and Massachusetts. I'd guess that Nevada, Maine and Massachusetts approve it. California tried not that long ago and narrowly missed. Arizona is a pretty conservative state, but maybe given it's border with Mexico, it will approve it as well.

    http://time.com/3748075/marijuana-legalization-2016/
     
  17. Jork

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    It will hurt them big time, for sure, but they will absolutely move their efforts to something else if marijuana gets fully legalized in the US. They may focus more on other drugs (coke, meth, heroin, etc) or into other things like kidnap/ransom. They may even try to infiltrate the legal marijuana trade in the US (organized crime running legitimate businesses is far from a new phenomenon).
     
  18. JGator1

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    Zetas already do kidnapping, Chapo's organization is more pr conscious so they avoid it.
     
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  19. Jork

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    California voted no on Prop 19 in 2010. 53.5% No vs 46.5% Yes. Seems like a slam dunk if its on the ballot for a presidential election then. :twocents:
     
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  20. Dudley Dawson2

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    Hayworth gave way to Raquel Welch.
     
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  21. Jork

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    Yep, Sinaloa cartel is much bigger into drugs. Or so I read.
     
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  23. Gtr

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    When they kill Donald Trump iyam
     
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  24. Merica

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  25. Joey Freshwater

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    His tunnel system is legit. Reminds me of "Law Abiding Citizen".
     
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  26. DuffandMuff

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    With the consumption of weed and coke decreasing the cartels have turned to other avenues as some have said. Kidnapping and human trafficking most popular iirc.
     
  27. Jake Barnes

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    Can't stop criminals wanting to commit crime.

    We can, however, stop bankrolling it while burning our own money. The two biggest anti-legalization advocates are the DEA and the cartel. That doesn't strike some people as odd?
     
  28. Joey Freshwater

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    Nobody wants that Mexican brick weed. Shits like 30% mold and piss.
     
  29. BrickTamland

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    I liked the dyslexic reporter that read 391k as "over three hundred nineteen thousand."
     
  30. HatterasJack

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    We have been "addressing the cartel issue" for like 30 years. Working out well.
     
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  31. kylebw7

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    That's the zetas. Sinaloa guys are starting to sell their drugs in all kinds of other countries. Europe, Asia, and Australia.
     
  32. Larry Sura

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    I remember reading an article that drug cartels/illegal growers made sure it didn't pass as much as they could. it would have hurt their profits.
     
  33. Jork

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    It's amazing that so many in politics/government are still going full retard on the drug war.

    Nixon and his aides knew in the early 70s that drug abuse was more of a human health issue than a law enforcement issue, but the political benefits to appearing to be tough on crime/drugs were far too great for them to actually do it.
     
  34. Barves2125

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    Even if marijuana is legalized, there's are still plenty of drugs for the cartels to focus on smuggling into the country. And, as stated, human trafficking is big business, too.

    But kidnapping? How much money could they really be making off of that?
     
  35. Jork

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    Yeah, the funny thing is everybody thinks it's all being grown in Mexico and smuggled across into the US, but the cartels actually send guys to go camp out in the wilderness in the US for two months, set up an illegal grow, harvest the crop and then peace out.

    I watched an entire thing about the Emerald Triangle (Humboldt, Mendocino and Trinity counties) in Northern California and how the DEA was fucking with mostly local growers, but were also finding tons of cartel guys in these farm camps too. I think I might have read it ITT, but they caught cartel guys on US owned forest land or some shit in Wisconsin and they were growing weed to move down through Chicago.
     
  36. Jork

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    If they nab the right guy? Millions. I'm an underwriter for a large US insurance carrier and we sell policies (very cheaply I might add) specifically for kidnap/ransom. Getting coverage for frequent travel to/from Mexico is a little more difficult, but not impossible.

    If you're a small company with only 50 or so employees and not a lot of international travel, you can probably get a $1M policy for less than $1,000 a year. Doesn't exclude personal travel and coverage extends to your employees and their families.
     
  37. Gambler

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    Fuzzy britches.
     
  38. IanC

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    I would be surprised if the grows in Colorado aren't funded by cartel money. I imagine that even in a legalized environment they have their piece of the pie.
     
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  39. Barves2125

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    Sure, but is this something that has occurred much before? Could be. I've just never heard of it outside of movies and television shows.
     
  40. Jack Parkman

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    Apparently we have reached out to Mexico offering our help and they haven't returned our calls

    no need guys, Mexico totally has got this
     
  41. Jork

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    I'm sure there are some that are operating legitimately under the new CO laws, but I'd bet there are also plenty of grows (cartel or otherwise) in CO that are selling to both legitimate dispensaries and on the black market simultaneously.
     
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  42. Jork

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    I've been in the industry for 10 years and this coverage has widely been available for at least that long. The coverage is detailed and a bit morbid too (i.e. how much money if they cut off a hand, leg, etc.).

    Some quick googling says they estimated criminal gangs made $500 million from this in 2010.
     
  43. Jack Parkman

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    Meh...he seems like a nice guy

    Graphic: El Chapo Challenges Lazcano and Z 40 in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas

    Chivis Martinez with translations of Mantas by Texcoco of Borderland Beat Forum

    The leader of the Sinaloa cartel, Joaquin Guzman, AKA “ El Chapo”, openly challenged Los Zetas, especially their leaders, Heriberto Lazcano, the Lazca, Miguel Angel Trevino Morales, Z 40, and his brother Omar Trevino, after raiding Tamaulipas and dismembering several members of the Zetas organization.

    The dismembered bodies of the Zetas were accompanied by narcomensajes, directed at their leaders, in which El Chapo challenges the cartel in their own territory. One message complains that they do not honor or comply with the established truce and called them traitors

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    Text:
    "Look you fucking 40 and L 42 I left these hands here for you because you are a bunch of assholes and a bunch of cowards, many times you have made a truce and you always break it, the dumps are all full from gathering all your garbage and rats ...
    Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas is mine ... Atte. El Chapo "
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    Text:
    "To be a cartel leader you need to use your head, you're an idiot and a disgusting lousy bastard, you are Lazcano's nut hugger and you will always be a car washer to me ... Atte. El Chapo
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    Text:
    "This is how you have to finish this assholes, by dismembering their bodies, all those rats who steal from people, kidnapping and kill innocent people, I'll teach you how I manage my cartel that has been working for 30 years, I didn't got here like you shining shoes, washing cars and betraying people .... Atte El Chapo "
     
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  44. Prospector

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    heard somebody from Mexico say it was US's fault and he should have been extradited
     
  45. Joey Freshwater

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    If dude was smart he'd have those tunnels running all the way under the boarder and out of Mexico.
     
  46. Arkadin

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    There are tons of them. So many of the guys who work in the actual growing operations grow on the side and ship it all over the country.
     
  47. Arkadin

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    He has tunnels everywhere, he's famous for them. That's why it's hilarious they even put him on the ground floor
     
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  48. kylebw7

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    He has over 100 that do just that
     
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  49. Jack Parkman

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    Believe I read that we tried but Mexico refused to extradite him
     
  50. Arkadin

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    We did.