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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by HotMic, Dec 6, 2018.
The prospect of Sooners vs Husks rivalry reprisal is worthy....not so much the Boomer annually hanging 80 on Illinois....
would hate to lose Texas, love the guarantee yearly victory
a large part of that article seems like a bunch of wishful thinking from TV nerds at FOX.
Sounds extremely official. Congrats to all involved parties and the random conspiracy theorist on Twitter who broke the news.
can we just not play Texas in the ACC/B1G please I'm sick of losing to that nerd program thanks
What is the Big 10’s policy on horns down?
Which is why it won’t happen since ESPN owns the LHN
Just targeting all the trump voting states
Really makes ya think
New conference name is going to be UUUGE TEN
The best programs
Who could pass up leaving to play
In a geography you have zero ties or association with?
Hear me out here, what if we did one big conference of 65 schools...
It also wouldn’t happen because UT can’t come in and run the show - Ohio State and Michigan would tell them to fuck off in a heartbeat.
ESPN wouldn’t mind getting out of that contract if possible. It hasn’t exactly been a profitable venture. That being said, this ain’t happening.
Lol at tech fan
Member that time we beat y’all 70-10 and won like the last four games against Nebraska?
and you then fired your coach lol
Things change, mox
And they’ve fired like four
It’s extremely unlikely to happen, but I wouldn’t say it ain’t happening. The Big 12 grant of rights goes through 2025 though.
The gap between the Big Ten, SEC, and everyone else is widening. The Big 12 pays $34.3 million per school. The Big Ten gave $51 million.
Texas either is going to demand more of a lions share from the Big 12 in 2025 or bolt.
They tested the Notre Dame model with the Longhorn Network and realize they have to affiliate with a conference.
OU will blow the conference up and we will be happy they did.
Doesn’t their third party money from the longhorn network essentially wipe out that delta?
Unless it starts turning a profit, it won’t get renewed.
By 2025, the entire landscape will change and conference networks won’t matter imo
What are acc schools getting
I agree the landscape will change, but the conference TV deals drive all revenue. That won’t change. Tier 1 rights drive revenue. The BTN is nice, but it’s not why we get $51 million a school.
The rich keep getting richer.
It's the haves (B1G) and the have-nots (every other conference)
Yea we have no idea what the media landscape will look like then. UT was very happy with the LHN knowing we would be in a good spot to negotiate once the GOR is up.
First - just noticed the XX's in the avatars.
Second - You can feel the insecurity of being left in the lurch of conference realignment seeping out of your posts. I dont intend that to sound as bad or mean as it does. It's completely understandable. I would feel the same way. Next time you talk shit about the 4 that left, remember this is why. The 4 that left will never have to worry about this crap.
Good day, sir.
And best of luck, but mostly to the remaining Big 8 schools (except ku) . You SWC schools meh.
Lol. I like the manuevering and political nature of the realignment game and always have. I also think the big 12 is in a substantially better place than people think.
To say my interest is driven by insecurity considering you went to a school who left the conference because y’all thought you were being picked on is rich. I don’t mean that to sound as mean as it does.
If we were left behind, which won’t happen while I’m alive, I would be fine. I would go about my day still not attending any Tech games and observing from a distance, which I’m fine with.
I too find it interesting.
We werent being picked on. But we left to join a conference w better stability as an equal partner.
The B12 is better because the four teams that left forced UT to spread the wealth around to keep the conference stable for the short term. Its a win-win for everyone really. The teams that left dont have to deal w it. The teams that remain benefit from more money that wasnt going to happen without shaking the tree.
This isnt a difficult concept.
This is a very strange post considering that Oklahoma is the only Big 12 team Texas gives two shits about. Trade Iowa State for Iowa, Kansas for Indiana, K-State for Purdue, West Virginia for Minnesota and Oklahoma State for Nebraska and it’s pretty much a wash. That just leaves two small, easily replaceable, in-state private schools and another in-state school in the hinterlands. Play SMU, Houston and Rice semi-regularly and you cover for those games.
Juggsian research tells me $26.6.
I think you’re washing over the point of the post which is that this list of teams wouldn’t offer incentive enough (money being essentially equal) to abandon the geographic nature of cfb, which is what separates it from pro sports. The only school to do it so far is West Virginia.
But like JY said OU is the key and their fans are fired up and wanting change from all their conference championships and heismans for some reason.
I agree; it isn’t a difficult concept. We aren’t even arguing different points. You just wanted to get your fun little jab infor some reason, which really hurt by the way.
For 2018, the highest rated games of the year, the SEC had 1, 3, and 6. The Big Ten had 2, 5, 7, 9, and 10.
The Big 12 title game was 4. Notre Dame/USC was 8.
There were 14 weeks of football. The Big Ten had the highest rated game of the week 7 times, the SEC 6 times, and Oklahoma-Texas once.
No Pac 12 game was highest rated, the only ACC game was Clemson-Texas AM, and the only Big 12 game was TCU-Ohio State.
Especially when they'd never beat Maryland
As of right now I don’t see a path for UT to do anything on its own. If we had to figure this out tomorrow we would 100% be attached to Tech.
All money and geography aside, there's a draw to the B1G that Texas will find overwhelmingly attractive.
Because of state politics?
Along the same line - always heard it will be hard for OU separate from OSU
My goodness this is an awful post
But Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State all would. Add in Oklahoma and extra money and there would be plenty of incentive. Not to mention the windfall for the entire university from being part of the Big Ten Academic Alliance (formerly the CIC). That, more than athletics and television contracts, is what makes the Big Ten attractive.
I don’t think it will ever happen (though I’d want it to simply to reboot the Oklahoma-Nebraska rivalry) but I feel you have a very Pollyanna view of what the Big 12 is and what it means. I realize the Big 12 means a lot to Texas Tech, but UT doesn’t give two shits about it.
Yep. I don’t know if the same is true of OU/OSU or not. I do know we used to be very friendly with OSU as well. I would imagine Texas/TTU/TCU/OU/OkSt are all pretty good partners right now. I don’t know about other schools. Baylor might be fucked. We definitely had some higher ups wanting to be done with them.
Back in 2010, then-OSU President Gordon Gee turned over e-mails in a FOIA request which kept noting that Bill Powers couldn’t move Texas due to his “Tech” problem.
There will be epic chili battles between Texas fans not comprending Skyline.
Playing Penn State every few years (Texas would be in a different division) doesn’t sound very tantalizing to usher in massive change of this kind.
You also have to consider how they think of the university academically. Michigan and others in the big are certainly their peer institutions, but that isn’t how the UT system adminstration thinks. It’s a bloated organization that spends unwisely and has terrible ROI, but they still see themselves as in another league from other large state universities.
They have either the second or third largest endowment in the country behind Harvard and Yale, and although the cic or whatever would be great, that’s not gonna incentivize them to play Maryland in women’s soccer.
Regarding my takes, I honestly don’t believe I have a Pollyanna view (could be wrong but I feel I’m typically pretty aware of other perspectives, although #sports), I just think the conference gets beat down pretty bad in the media (many times deservedly so) and is somewhat stable now.
If we had added Houston and Cincy last year I could totally see this happening. I probably advocated for the additions but staying at ten was the right move.
Then again if OU riots and blows it all up, disregard all of this.
I have no idea what you’re talking about re: thinking we are in a different league from other big state universities unless I just misunderstood you. Our admins are obsessed with emulating the Cal state school system.