What is your opinion on transgendered persons competing in the Olympics?

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by lechnerd, Mar 1, 2019.

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Should transgendered athletes be allowed to compete in the Olympics and in what fashion?

  1. No, Shouldn’t be allowed at all

    11.6%
  2. Yes and can compete as a M/F depending on how they view themselves

    6.0%
  3. Yes but must compete according the genitalia they were born with

    53.0%
  4. Yes but create an entire new Olympics for the transgendered

    6.4%
  5. lechnerd is fat

    23.1%
  1. og

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    Lol I knew you would opt out of answering a hypothetical question.

    The rest of your post i don’t even know what you are trying to drunkenly say.
     
  2. wes tegg

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    That’s fair, and something I agree with. But I don’t think that’s his point, because he came at me and I did nothing of the sort.
     
  3. Daniel Ocean

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    It’s the same thing as it was before. But, in the early years anyone who would speak up against something would be dragged through the coals by the right leaning posters. Shit happened to me all the time in the past I just didn’t cry and whine that people were ganging up on me.
     
  4. Degausser

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    Fair. I don't consider you to be one of the ones that does this fwiw.
     
  5. Wu

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    Phrasing
     
  6. og

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    ^Has yet to refute anything or contribute to a discussion forum existing literally to type out words so other people can read them and interact with them
     
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  7. Degausser

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    We were all dumbasses back then. We may all be dumbasses now too, I guess.
     
  8. og

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    Either did I when I was always on the same side as you.
     
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  9. og

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    I didn’t “come at you” at all. You tried to be condescending to a post of mine and thus exposed yourself to be wrong and I stated such. Then you never refuted my response.
     
  10. Lyrtch

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    i understand you agree with nonsensical word vomit, but calling that meltdown post a melty is about as benign as it gets. you use it to avoid confrontation or discussing anything because you're sensitive
    you called people who irritate you for empathizing with groups they may not be a part of neo-liberals (makes no sense, then changed it to neo-marxists (still doesn't make sense)

    you're clearly under the influence and/or woefully out of your depth to discuss anything in here, I've been posting in here when the discussion was actually substantive and not let me vomit right wing grievance on the table

    but that being said, ask me any sjw question
     
  11. Lyrtch

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    those were the days
     
  12. Daniel Ocean

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    I wouldn’t want anyone I love fighting for a living. How many examples are there of post-op male to female are there in contact sports? I can think of one female to male example.

    Ugh Beo is drunk. How original of you. Pay attention my slow witted fratzy bro.

    People with better genes who are more athletic constantly beat other less athletic individuals. This is no different. Sorry it bothers your delicate sensibilities.
     
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  13. og

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    Hmmmm still has yet to refute anything other than a brain fart in my post

    Congrats on getting a guy like Trump elected
     
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  14. og

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    So you are saying that post made sense? It drifted off into garbled nonsense

    I agree with your statement and men are more athletic genetically than women so will constantly win. Thanks for proving my point for me.
     
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  15. wes tegg

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    How was I wrong?
     
  16. VaxRule

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    Virtue signaling is when you say you care about things that I think are stupid. If I say I care about something it’s just an honest and valid statement showing my virtue.
     
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  17. Degausser

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    So it's only a melty when it's something that goes against what you believe. Got it. When did you become like this? You used to be easy to get along with, but you turned awful somewhere along the way.
     
  18. MoJo

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    Let trans compete against the sex they identify with, the results will bear out whether it’s “fair” or not. Go from there.
     
  19. Daniel Ocean

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    If you’re point is better athletes will win then sure. If you think that’s wrong why do we have sports at all and why keep score.
     
  20. Lyrtch

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    just for you bb

    your use of neo marxism makes no sense, slightly more sense than neoliberal, even if we expand it to just marxist you're freaking out about probably low single digits posters

    hypocrisy policing is the lowest T message board activity

    what drove voters to Trump the most is empirically studied racial resentment and misogyny, the repeatedly studied, repeatedly confirmed best prediction of Trump support

    you really need to read more. gender is a spectrum, it does exist. people transition to match body with their gender identity.
    Cite?
     
  21. og

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    For a phrase you ‘don’t care about’ you seem to have an awful lot of opinions.

    Let me break this down for both of you. That isn’t what virtue signalling means. That is twisting the phrase to not have to argue with the person who used it. Virtue signalling is when you say something to fit in that you think shows your virtue (thus gaining respect and an old pat on the back). Disagreeing with a majority opinion (at least on this board) cannot be virtue signalling by definition as their is not virtue gained from speaking up. Your entire group arguing against one person are literally despising me more by me stating that.
     
  22. Lyrtch

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    I've always been like this bud.
     
  23. Degausser

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    No, no you haven't. You and I used to get along well. This whole Trump thing has brought out the worst in you.
     
  24. VaxRule

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    This is you projecting your opinion onto what other people think and feel.

    “They don’t really believe [x], they’re just saying that because they think it’s cool.”

    It’s a way for you to dismiss complaints you either don’t agree with or just don’t want to think about. It’s a way to just ignore the substance of a complaint because it makes you uncomfortable.
     
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  25. og

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    Wow at your interpretation of your own statements. A man and a woman are not on the same plateau athletically. A man competing against a man that has similar genetic makeup in a sport is thus fair as there is at least some semblance of level playing field. From there we can ‘keep score’ and have a competitive game. Sports aren’t about winning they are about competing at the highest level you can. Transwomen such as the story in Connecticut are not competing at the highest level they can fairly compete they are beating people who don’t have a chance of physically developing anywhere near where they have the potential to.

    How does that not make sense?
     
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  26. wes tegg

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    Who made you the arbiter of the definition of “virtue signaling?” There’s nothing in the definition of that made up phrase that limits it to the majority opinion.

    I can’t decipher that last sentence (see, aforementioned “horrible lawyer” ad hominem), so I’ll give you a chance to rephrase before responding to it.
     
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  27. wes tegg

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    And, FWIW, I think that there ought to be trans divisions for competition. Easy fix.
     
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    This board was formed because rivals.com didn’t allow enough e-bullying. Still kind of the point. Get in a big group and pile on one or two people.

    The politics may have changed and the racism has been toned way down, but it’s not like TMB has become a thoughtful or empathetic place.
     
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  29. Lyrtch

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    I went and looked. Prior to a few years ago we interacted only in the beer thread. Then you did the exact same "everyones so sensitive reee" schtick in the war on christmas thread. You've stuck your head into more political threads lately and you disagree with me, that's fine, but actually engage in intellectual side of the discussion instead of immediately retreating to the tone police side.
     
  30. RSK

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    Yall are aware that you're arguing with a Trump supporter right?


    The night of the election:


    But Lyrtch is the one that got Trump elected you fucking twat
     
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  31. Degausser

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    Except now it's being done in the name of political correctness and comes off incredibly hypocritical. Ten years ago, nobody here pretended to be anything other than an asshole.
     
  32. Lyrtch

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    even accepting his definition it's insane, it presupposes that you can determine whether someone believes something genuinely or that they're doing it just to fit in

    is he psychic

    (in reality it goes back to the ability to smugly dismiss people you disagree with like you said)
     
  33. Degausser

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    A place of happiness. Simpler times, I suppose.
     
  34. og

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    No it is not projecting as it is evolutionally proven that humans have an innate sense of wanting to belong and will change behaviors based on the perceived norm in situations. I come into a thread and read everyone posting that they are fine with this I can much more easily be persuaded to come to the conclusion being fed to me without even knowing it. Not to mention biases of politics coming into play. A neutral human observer has a statistically higher chance of siding with the opinion being over represented in the medium that they observing if there are hardly any people making valid arguments against said opinion. Notice I never said anyone specifically was virtue signalling. Sorry I was not more clear that I was stating the collective unconscious of this board is what leads to virtue signalling. As Beo stated this board used to be completely different and in that time their were some posters that left this site because of the same concept coming from the over represented negative actions of the majority of the board. Myself included.

    I came into this thread with an opinion formed with my opinion I wanted to be made even though it was the minority. When people on the other side unnecessarily gang up on to bury this opinion by being condescending as though they are for sure in the right is the type of thing that leads to virtue signalling type posts that have no substance and only serve to agree with others.
     
  35. wes tegg

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    The reports of TMB’s demise have been greatly exaggerated. There are still a lot laughs to be had. Unfunny, noncontributing boners are still unfunny, noncontributing boners (and often the loudest voices in bitching about what were “the good ole days”).
     
  36. Daniel Ocean

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    I am not a scientist/biologist/doctor so I don’t know but I assume that there has to hormone therapy that the individuals take to help their transition. I think there should be some standard either only allow post op or those on hormone therapy to compete. If you’re belief is you can only compete against those that have the same sex organs you did at birth then this conversation is pointless because we won’t agree.
     
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  37. RSK

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    You neoliberals/neomarxists are the reason Trump got elected. It has nothing to do with me literally voting for him.

     
  38. Daniel Ocean

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    How big of a need is there for this? In Connecticut would you be making a division for two athletes?
     
  39. og

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    Lol I am a trump supporter because I want America to do well and am not actively shouting “not my president”

    I had the same opinion when Obama was in office I wanted him to succeed in most aspects as that means the country would be doing better. I supported universal health care because I wanted to see if it could improve our system and was reamed out by several posters on this board then about how I knew nothing too. It’s fine if you think I support trump think what you will. I didn’t vote and I probably never will for a president. I think this country is built on a strong enough foundation that the political spectrum finds a way to balance self out. I am just taking part in that voicing my opinion.
     
  40. TDCD

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    Thread needs some pics of hot shemales to get us all back on the same page
     
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  41. MoJo

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    What would be the class entry requirement?
     
  42. wes tegg

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    There’s no “need” for it.
     
  43. RSK

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    Yea you definitely didn't vote for him. :out:
     
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  44. VaxRule

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    You’re saying that there is some banner of “political correctness” that people are marching under. That isn’t what’s going on. It isn’t about words or speech. It’s about people denying the humanity of people that are different than them and other people saying “that’s bullshit”.

    I get that it’s annoying when people complain about things that you like, but maybe don’t dismiss those complaints as being done just to annoy you and ask yourself why people might actually believe there’s a problem.
     
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  45. AIP

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    Yes !!! Bailey please
     
  46. wes tegg

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    Open to suggestions.
     
  47. AIP

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    Soon as trump gets mentioned in a thread it becomes unreadable
     
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  48. wes tegg

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    Maybe not in your limited definition, but this is virtue signaling in everyone else’s definition my man.
     
  49. VaxRule

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    You’re again saying people dat they believe things just to go along with the majority instead of accepting that people read arguments and come to actually see the world differently than you do.

    You aren’t psychic.

    People really believe Donald Trump is a narcissistic moronic conman for reasons other than “that’s just what people on this board say.”
     
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  50. wes tegg

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    If we’re doing the whole words mean what words mean thing, saying “I am doing this virtuous/pious/moral thing and you aren’t” is signaling your virtue.
     
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