We weren't but iirc, the theory was that they knew perhaps days in advance. They could have at least alerted Pearl Harbor and/or put all possible targets on high alert. Maybe sent out a battleship or a bunch of planes. Found the wiki entry for it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance-knowledge_conspiracy_theory
Boy, it would be hard for me to stay quiet about that if I was one of the radio officers that saw the invading fleet and knew I had reported it to my superiors. Things like that, that take a lot of silence from a lot of people, are tough to go with.
Agreed. Seems like if you were wanting to enter the war you wouldn't want so much of your Pacific fleet crippled.
It's for the same reason that I don't think 9/11 was an actual inside job or anything like that. Incompetence can mask itself as conspiracy more often than not. I have a hard time imagining hundreds or thousands of people could keep quiet, especially officially in government docs, and also have a hard time seeing an American president allow several thousand American deaths on American soil. Even if the ends met their needs. A better explanation is usually that people sucked at their jobs.
I mean we've overthrown governments, started wars under false pretenses, killed civil rights leaders, and on and on. That is stuff that's known! You don't really need these far fetched conspiracy theories
Whoever said the govt is ok with white supremacy if it means oppposition to left wing governments is more than accurate. Hell, they were ok with looking away in the war on drugs if it meant narcos or narco back organizations were overthrowing leftist governments. While another government agency was trying to stop drug trafficking! The history of the CIA is fucked, we actually know about it, and nobody seems to give a shit because making up conspiracies is more interesting, or something.
We trained central and south American fighters in the School of the Americas, located in Panama at the time, to overthrow leftist regimes in the 50s/60s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_for_Security_Cooperation
Atlantis and Lemuria were used as ways to explain things like fossil records on two different continents divided by an ocean. But all that was before continental drift was proposed by Wegner in 1912. That idea wasn't even widely accepted until the 50s. Not real places and just kooky ways to explain the unexplainable at the time imo.
It sounds like in your first sentence you're describing the Christian/religious concept of God. I believe in something greater than myself that I cannot comprehend, but I don't think of it as some benevolent, omnipresent, anthropomorphic being. Basically your second sentence. Sort of like the analogy of a more advanced race of aliens presenting themselves to us would be akin to humans trying to explain themselves to cockroaches. A lot of schools of yoga get deep into reincarnation and multiple lives which I can't fully subscribe to, though.
Totally understand but that sort of thing is unknowable. I don't claim to be certain of anything at all. It's just, if that exists cool. But then, why? The why question is way easier when there's nothing. It's a lot lot harder if there's something, no matter what that something is. And there's no evidence for any of it so the most logical explanation is an eternal dirt nap.
The softer version of this conspiracy that I'm seeing make the rounds as of late, was that it was actually Churchill that had the advance knowledge but he didn't tell FDR so that America would be dragged into the war.
It's literally a rejection of the rational/logical part of your brain and a figurative transcendence beyond the mind. Entirely faith-based and I accept that. A lot of teachers would tell you the "why" is life's eternal question, asked in perpetuity but never really answered. (well then why TF do you keep asking why?) You could also just do some ayahuasca and get some evidence tho
The Drake Equation (which is something I knew nothing about till after reading this thread and then its wiki) estimates a range somewhere in the thousands to hundreds of thousands. So you’re probably right, but even if there were just a couple thousand, that still blows my mind.
This number regularly goes up as we discover more through things like the James Webb telescope, also.
Reagan's administration is the most blatant example of the war on leftism or pro capitalism, however you want to look at it. Nearly every major administrative decision, foreign or domestic
I took a class in undergrad called Non Local Mind that was essentially all about this and other quantum mind theories. Basically that our consciousness is not confined to specific time and space (i.e. our body/brain in the present). I don't remember a ton about it (it was almost 20 years ago), but one thing that always stuck with me that was said in class is that things we have deep fears of (e.g. flying, enclosed spaces, specific animals etc.) are a result of a traumatic experience or death from one of the past lives of your conscious.
I want to believe time travel is possible but the logic that if it were possible we should be seeing people from future already seems sound. But the multiple universe thing and seems like you'd have to live it once before people go back.
Touched on in here already with Nug and Bo Pelinis but I'm a big believer in Open Individualism / nondualism. Got pulled in years ago by The Egg short story. Tried to make it my "religion" since.
Once the national security organizations realized people cared about their chicanery they focused on discrediting conspiracy theories on the whole, which worked incredibly well.
UFOs are time machines and the little grey aliens are us from the future. They don't care about showing up to time travel parties or giving us stock tips or whatever. They need biological samples from the past to save their civilization, which is why you get human abductions, livestock mutilations and the like.
Do you guys think Sirhan Sirhan was the only person there to kill RFK that night? One of the guys he shot testified on his behalf at his parole hearing saying he didn't think Sirhan shot RFK and that he was a distraction.
I cannot wait to let my court appointed psychiatrist know that Swamp_Monkey on the internet backs up my assertion that big foots are alien slaves
Swamp_Monkey I’m just fucking with you. We share the thought that alien sightings are most likely time traveling humans
My understanding is if there's one Kennedy death to question, it's that one. I admittedly don't know enough about it. I think a number of witnesses testified to hearing more shots than what's in the official record but there's a lot of stainless in a kitchen which causes a lot of echoing. Idk tbh
I'm trying to tread lightly because I realize this next point comes from a place of privilege. Food deserts are real, the time and ability to exercise is a privilege, and this isn't even really "out there." America, and to a larger extent capitalism, wants us to be fat, sickly, and unhappy. They genuinely want to pump us full of preservatives, stay at sedentary jobs and develop health issues, and sit in our little boxes to stare at even smaller boxes. I don't think the government, big pharma, the food industry, etc. are all working in concert with one another, but they all have pretty much the same agenda. They do not want us to be healthy and happy. So many physical and mental issues can be solved with moderate exercise and good diet. But, capitalism has us believe there's always a shortcut, some quick fix, so most of the population looks for this rather than simply moving their bodies and eating healthy. This comes with the caveat that many families often need to provide for several mouths and there aren't enough hours in the day to exercise, cook meals, and otherwise prioritize physical and mental health. Then, you have the media screaming at these same families that the reason for their plight is some boogeyman of the week, usually minorities and/or libs. America is obese and unhealthy largely because corporations thrive on that. Insurance, for-profit healthcare, 95% of food in the grocery store, advertisers, most capitalist structures are largely responsible for the poor health of Americans and will continue as long as it earns a buck. Probably the only things I enjoy about the US are the outdoors and beer.
100% believe and know this to be true. Watched my parents’ health fail them at ages 71 and 62 due to avoidable metabolic disorders. Meanwhile, their siblings overseas are now older than they were when they passed and are in fine health. Our government allows the handful of giant corporations that control over 90% of our food to use known carcinogens in the name of greater profits, and our elected officials get kickbacks in the form of political donations. Then, when your sick and riddled with disorders like diabetes, hypertension, heart disease and cancer, the food industry hands you off to the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries that pump people full of more poison till they either run out of money or die.
Some of, a lot of, your shit is dumb, but you know it's dumb and confrontational so you bring a lot of it on yourself. You're obviously not a dummy and probably a likeable dude. I like your posts when you're being normal. I just don't understand the extra stuff.