What's Up With All Those Train Derailments?

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  1. herb.burdette

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    Missouri at one time took nuclear waste, but that stopped in the early 70’s.
     
  2. fucktx

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    At least they offered the families $5 for fucking up the air, making the water undrinkable, and killing their pets
     
  3. Shinzon

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    East Palestine seems like the real-life Lillian, Ohio. Since this is weirdly similar to the plot of the Abrams/Spielberg movie Super 8.

    A secret government train derails and explodes in small town Ohio carrying classified cargo. Followed by a news blackout so no one learns the truth. But instead of hiding the government’s part in a major ecological disaster on our own soil, in the movie, a giant alien creature escaped the train and is hiding under the town fighting to make its way off our planet.
     
  4. herb.burdette

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    Super 8 was filmed about 25 miles away in Weirton, WV.
     
  5. skiedfrillet

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    Most incinerators are at capacity right now and are at 1-2month delays, at least in my experience recently
     
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  6. Shinzon

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    The city that played the part of small-town Ohio for a train disaster movie is now being affected by a small-town Ohio train disaster. Life imitating art cliché is appropriate.
     
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  7. yaywaffles

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    the woke railroad industry is targeting good, god-fearing american communities with airborne toxic events loaded with crt and cultural marxism in order to turn the kids (and pets) gay
     
  8. Tommy Callahan

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    I knew it was hazardous waste but didn’t realize the size of it. It’s 50 minutes from my house and about 2 minutes from one of my best friends farm
     
  9. fucktx

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    Alabama is literally a hazardous waste dump lol
     
  10. herb.burdette

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    This is an easy GOP talking point. It’s Biden’s fault.
     
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  11. skiedfrillet

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    oh yeah it's a beast. i send a fuckload of waste there. pretty much everything generated east of the mississippi that's bulk hazardous solids ends up in Emelle. Clean Harbors, Tradebe, Harsco, Heritage in Indy, Detroit, Houston, etc take a lot in for incineration, but they're all completely backlogged now.
     
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  12. One Two

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    The conspiracy cosplay republicans are now latching on to the balloons and increase in train derailments as the next chapter in their book of lunacy and I’m a little interested to see how they tie all of this to the Clinton’s.
     
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  13. 40wwttamgib

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    well yeah. americans, and especially us ohioans, are dumb as fuck
     
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  14. Prospector

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  15. 40wwttamgib

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    mike dewine is from my area. little shit looks like he's never seen a locker he hasn't seen the inside of.

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  16. 40wwttamgib

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    and look at that ugly bitch he calls a wife. my lord.
     
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  17. HuskerInMiami

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    He has major pedo vibes
     
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  18. Saul Shabazz

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    The pro law enforcement ads he ran where he was vested up and walking the streets with LEO's killed me good

    Guy has to be like 5'1 tops, pulled the "vest" off a Big Boss Man cabbage patch
     
  19. yaywaffles

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    Supposedly taken above east palestine. Haven't found reliable confirmation though

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  20. skiedfrillet

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    kinda reminds me of goatse
     
  21. timo

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    Norfolk Southern shouldn't be allowed to hire their own consultants. Pay for them, sure. Fuck em, pay up. But they shouldn't decide who they get to hire.

    There's so many fucking garbage Env Consultanting firms with zero ethics out there who will just write whatever the company/govt agency hiring them wants put in the report.

    Anyway, interested to hear who they hired.
     
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  22. herb.burdette

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    Tetra Tech Inc. is listed on the initial air and water sampling documents publicly available on EPA’s website.

    Arcadis wrote the initial remediation action plan.

    https://response.epa.gov/sites/15933/files/East Palestine RAWP Feb 10 2023.pdf
     
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  23. skiedfrillet

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    It’s tetra tech
     
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  24. timo

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    TT is huge (2nd biggest in US? something like that) and they certainly have the geologists, env engineers, etc. to characterize the scope of the problem(s) and do this the right way. They've pulled some bullshit in the past, but idk...

    That plan of action from Arcadis looks pretty sparse given the apparent scope.
     
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  25. HotMic

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    Nothing to see here folks!

     
  26. Butthead

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    phosgene gas was released into the air as a minor byproduct last week. why in the fuck would you drink the water?
     
  27. Prospector

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    Pass
     
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  28. buckwild

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    BRB....dumping out my cases of Fiji water bottles so that I can take them over to East Palestine to fill up with this verified good shit.
     
  29. Artoo

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    Thanks Governor. How about you show us how safe it is by getting a glass out of a local E. Palestine sink and chugging that devil's milkshake down on camera?
     
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  30. theregionsitter

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    My neighbor is very high up at the Ohio EPA, cannot wait to talk to him about this, dudes been there 30 years. I’ll get some info for sure
     
  31. buckwild

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    Their mayor looks like the high school mascot painted on the wall behind his head....

     
  32. Andy Reocho

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    I’m fucking shocked.
     
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  33. skiedfrillet

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    well well well don't all of you negative nancies have some crow to be eatin
     
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  34. HotMic

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    “Tastes fine to me”

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  35. buckwild

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    Now he wants the assistance...

     
  36. timo

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    This is a good interview -- guy from Hopkins knows his shit.

    EPA keeps using "screening" for the residential properties, which I take to mean they have people walking around with PID devices -- fine for first responders and cleanup workers gauging the level of PPE needed on a site; simply not sensitive enough for Indoor Air Quality investigations and, unless they're setting up monitors and letting them run for 8 hours or something, not a long enough air screening window. What's needed is *sampling* -- TO-15 cans or similar set up for 8 (or, better, 24) hour gas collection. Costs like $250 a sample ($450 after we throw our multiplier on it :awesomeface:) and there's a bunch of labs that do them.

    I'd also like to see some testing for dioxins in settled dust downwind of the site. SW-846-method 8290A or similar NIOSH method. Could probably narrow that down for the labs if you know the predominant dioxin, if any, produced at the burn site.
     
  37. Drown ‘Em

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    Do you Ohio guys know if he calls it “The DeWine Administration” when he’s talking about his good accomplishments as governor, or does he say “my administration”. Perhaps he always does this, but it just feels like a poorly veiled purposeful distancing to avoid blame.
     
  38. Prospector

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    Rail workers say they knew the train that derailed in East Palestine, dubbed "32 Nasty," was dangerous
    The more information that comes out about the disastrous, highly toxic train derailment in Ohio, the more it becomes clear that corporate malfeasance and greed are the culprits. Workers had a nickname for the train that derailed — the "32 Nasty" — because of management decisions that made it particularly difficult to run. The workers also said that "multiple red flags, including two mechanical problems, about 32N went undetected or were ignored in the hours leading up to the crash." There need to be SERIOUS consequences for Norfolk Southern and other railroad companies that deliberately neglect worker and public safety in favor of higher profit margins.
     
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  39. MORBO!

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    And yet, somehow, the right wing lunatics want to paint this as a failure of government.

    Unless you're saying that the susceptibility of right wing politicians in accepting bribes to deregulate on behalf of corporations is a failure of government, but nobody seems to be suggesting that in the media that I've seen.
     
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  40. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    It definitely is a failure of government but it's a failure they, for the most part (lots of centrist Dems to blame too), helped CREATE!
     
  41. 40wwttamgib

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    not sure i've ever heard him use the term. assume he's going to try to throw the federal government under the bus whilst taking all the help and funding he can. ya know, like a good republican
     
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  42. Prospector

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  43. timo

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    Right, exactly. Therein lies the nuance.

    1. Gut effective government oversight, kill regulations and strip back government authority (see any number of Supreme Court decisions on any number of matters), pack oversight organizations (OSHA, EPA, FDA, TSA, FRA, etc.) with industry cronies and halfwits.
    2. Disasters happen
    3. Claim government doesn't work as it should.
    4. Double down on #1
     
  44. Goose

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    The run on water bottles has began in Cincinnati

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  45. herb.burdette

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    My wife’s sister did this, because Cincinnati draws 88% of its drinking water intake from the river.

    I had to explain to my wife that our water in the NE suburbs does not come from the river.

    Im still expecting to come home to four cases of water she bought today.
     
  46. Goose

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    Hyde Park Kroger will be out of water in a few hours. My friend sent me a pic from the Oakley Kroger and it looked like the toilet paper section when Covid first hit
     
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  47. herb.burdette

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    The US EPA’s second largest water research and testing facility is in Cincinnati. They work closely with the city because it has such a large utility base.

    Basically, the US Army began research on providing clean water to troops in the Civil War and set up in Cincinnati because it was close to the fighting.

    There has been a national research facility here ever since. It’s now the Andrew Breidenbach Environmental Research Center.

    I think we’re good here.
     
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  48. poor paul

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    New train derailment just dropped