Who will be the Democratic nominee in 2020?

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Who will be the Democratic candidate for 2020?

  1. Beto

    19.2%
  2. Warren

    9.6%
  3. Bernie

    7.6%
  4. Biden

    23.7%
  5. Ocasio

    1.0%
  6. Hillary

    2.5%
  7. Kamala

    16.2%
  8. Oprah

    3.5%
  9. Landrieu

    0.5%
  10. Bloomberg

    2.0%
  11. Cuomo

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Holder

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Deval

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Booker

    3.0%
  15. Other candidate

    11.1%
  1. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Because her opponent is a racist dumbass and so are all of his supporters and the entire thing would be them just shitting on her as “Pocahontas”. That’s all it would be. She would wipe the floor with him in terms of actual polices and he’d wear a goddamn headdress to a rally and his knuckle dragging base would erupt.
     
  2. zeberdee

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    do you think there is a dem nominee that is going to steal votes from Trump's base?
     
  3. Talking Head

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    I imagine her primary opponents are gonna use the Native American thing against her too. These are a bunch of politicians trying to become president. They’ll reconcile after a candidate is determined, but during the primaries they’ll definitely be going at each other’s flaws.
     
  4. Redav

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    If you're not voting for Warren because of a DNA test then you probably were always going to vote for Trump considering the mountains of unethical behavior by Trump that we already know about
     
  5. dome foam

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    it’s the primary. Donald trump isn’t her opponent.
     
  6. Arkadin

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    Read the conversation he's replying to dome, it's right in front of you on the very same page
     
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  7. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Not at all. I don’t see Trump losing any of the states he won in 2016 and our country falling apart by 2022 when he finally puts the nail in the coffin of democracy.

    Eat Arby’s
     
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  8. chuckmasterflex

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    I don't think Trump calling Warren "Pocahontas" and focusing on that would be an effective political strategy at all.
     
  9. Hoss Bonaventure

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    I don’t as I assume they are reasonable adults and not a blathering idiot. Using that isn’t winning them any support during the primaries.
     
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  10. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Have you seen, listened to, or read anything his supporters say? He could just say the word “Pocahontas” to every question asked during a debate and they’d say he “totally owned her”
     
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  11. Arkadin

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    Right. But winning Trump supporters isn't going to cut it.
     
  12. Redav

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    I enjoy that Warren having partial native american ancestry is one of her "flaws"
     
  13. Talking Head

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    I’d imagine there are a few minorities out there who aren’t all that thrilled about a white woman trying to paint herself as a minority.
     
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  14. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Correct. Nobody is winning them over.
     
  15. zeberdee

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    seriously. if that's the best people can come up with for her, I'd say she's a pretty great candidate. the reporting on that DNA test was total garbage as well. the test pretty much concluded what she claims is true (as much as it can confirm anything).
     
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  16. Dairy Queen

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    :facepalm:
     
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  17. Hoss Bonaventure

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    It’s not a flaw at all to people who don’t enjoy licking windows.
     
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  18. Talking Head

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    I can’t wait to bump this exchange when it gets brought up in the primaries.
     
  19. Hoss Bonaventure

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    I’d absolutely vote for her and think she’d be a great president. Those dna tests are garbage when it comes to Native American ancestry as tribes don’t use dna tests at all to prove heritage. My parents had to file all the stuff for me and my brother to get our Cherokee cards and none of it involved a dna test.
     
  20. leroi

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    maybe.

    is Robert Byrd still alive?

    edit: no, he isn't. oh well
     
  21. Eathan Edwards

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    redacted
     
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  22. Wicket

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    going for kamala harris without having having much more of a reason to think she wins other than having a decent chance of turning out a good performance of 2 in a crowded field early in the primaries (specifically thinking about Nevada and turning out the black vote in South Carolina)
     
  23. Wicket

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    Ocasio im pretty sure is too young to even be legally allowed to be president
     
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  24. Arkadin

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    Why do you join in on policing people talking about their family history?
     
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  25. Eathan Edwards

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    Yea I'm an idiot, I was thinking it was 30 instead of 35.
     
  26. Arkadin

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    You should read up both on her and the requirements to be president
     
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  27. NCHusker88

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    You are so fucking gullible
     
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  28. Wicket

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    quick question. Does a Vice president legally have to be eligible to become president. It'd be retarded if they picked someone ineligible but can it potentially/theoretically happen?
     
  29. Eathan Edwards

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    Act of contrition already issued - also 6:30 am on my side of the country, just got back from deja vu - probably won't be a strong posting effort on my end this series.
     
  30. leroi

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    I was an advocate for a Warren presidential campaign in 2007, when I watched one of her speeches. I argued she should've been the Democratic nominee in 2008, and 2016.

    12 years in and I haven't heard a single coherent policy criticism from a Democrat. 100% of it has been some form of : "She's unelectable" or "She won't win." "She can't win." "She will lose." "She's too liberal" etc.
     
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  31. Talking Head

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    All I said was it will be brought up in the primaries.

    These are politicians. They're on the same team and a lot of their ideas align. They will absolutely use something personal that gives them a leg up against her especially if she becomes the front runner.
     
  32. Arkadin

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    It's like deja Vu all over again
     
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  33. Arkadin

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    No, you called it a "white woman trying to paint herself as a minority". Are you attributing that quote to someone else in the future?
     
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  34. Redav

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    And it will be a losing strategy.
     
  35. Talking Head

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    It will be brought up with much more tact but that will be the general concept.
     
  36. Arkadin

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    Because the United States of America hasn't been ready to elect a woman. They've probably been right to date. Feels like 2020 could be different though, based on recent results at all levels
     
  37. dome foam

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    I guess whoever he’s talking to I’ve got ignored.
     
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  38. Hoss Bonaventure

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    She can win. We just live in a country that is basically Monday Night Raw now.
     
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  39. Muddy Badger

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    It's not the actual DNA test that is the issue for Warren imo, unfortunately Fox News will run a billion stories every other day trying to sway people that she used her NA ancestry to take advantage of the system despite plenty of evidence to the contrary.
     
  40. Redav

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    They'd do that to any dem nominee.
     
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  41. Muddy Badger

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    I was unaware that other Dem nominees had DNA tests make the news
     
  42. leroi

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  43. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Which is odd considering anyone watching all of those segments on Fox would vote for a rock with googly eyes and a mustache glued onto it so long as the anchors said the rock loves Jesus, guns and hating brown people.
     
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  44. Muddy Badger

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    538 has done a good job explaining Warren's weakness on a national level based on current polling. She's not even the most popular 2020 candidate in her own state. That's troubling.
     
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  45. Redav

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    Being concerned with how Fox News portrays the Dem nominee is definitely a winning formula.
     
  46. zeberdee

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    just adding to this - if someone is watching Fox News, they've already made up their mind. there's no point trying to win their vote.
     
  47. Eathan Edwards

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    As an aside, a very prominent DC figure was in LA earlier this week.

    Me and my chick have a double date scheduled with him (obviously the wife and kids are back home in DC and he has a new chick here every time) and he shows up to the restaurant with a high end escort that is wearing a leash. So that was fun to explain to the staff and management that I have to see pretty often.

    I honestly feel like that is a good summation of the upper level people in DC.
     
  48. indeed

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    Giant step up from the guy who lost to the lady who lost to Trump in 2016.
     
  49. Muddy Badger

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    Of course not, but the story has already hit mainstream news. Tons of energy/money/time will have to go into defending it. On top of her troubling poll numbers there are better candidates with less baggage
     
  50. Redav

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    What is there to defend?

    Link to these polling numbers?
     
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